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Brigitte,
I have traded the Dow futures only on brief occasions and but know that they
can be extrememely thin at times and in these circumstances, would most
likely prior to the opening, have a huge premium built in, ( likely to the
downside), that may never be seen again that day, once the day session
opens.

Advice I heard given here, given by some fairly respected money managers, is
that the best posture might be if you are long stay long or if flat stay
flat, don't necessarily buy a dip if it is to occur. In other words apply
your normal investment stance prior to this event, until things settle out.
Assuming your friend is long, to sell (or go short futures) then buy (or
cover the futures) reguires two phenominal acts of timing which, most if
any, will likely be unable to pull off?

Their advice is to stand pat. If your friend was an investor before, they
should stay one ("this too, shall pass"?) and if flat don't necessarily be a
buyer (or short stocks).  If you  have been waiting for a buying
opportunity, then wait for a what you perceive is the "price point or
pattern" you were looking for, then buy (but not necessarily Monday).
Notice each stance maintains their current investment approach, prior to
this unfortunate event.

Bottom line, wholesale buying to "show them" or selling stocks (or futures)
in fear, may not be the best course of acton on Monday.

The USA equally extends our heartfelt sympathy to the countrymen
(countrypersons) from Austrailia, Britain, Germany and I am sure so many
other countries that have also suffered tragic losses. Britain's changing of
the guard and playing the US national anthem yesterday was truly moving,
thank you.

Lets hope that all countries can unite to eliminate this threat from the
world, no matter how difficult the task.

As in trading, nobody said this would be easy, or be accomplished in a short
period of time.
don ewers


----- Original Message -----
From: <sptrader@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "Don Ewers" <dbewers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 9:46 PM
Subject: Re: Dow Jones Futures


> Thank you for your help Don, let me know if I can ever be of assistance to
> you.
>
> :)Brigitte
>
> Don Ewers wrote:
>
> > Here is the 5min Data I have for 9-11-01 beginning at 825 EST (OH L C)
> > 9670  9685  9670  9685              8:25
> > 9680  9680  9675  9675              8:30
> > 9680  9685  9675  9685              8:35
> > 9685   9685 9680  9680              8:40
> > 9680  9680  9680  9680              8:45
> > 9685  9680  9650  9680              8:50
> > 9650  9680  9650  9680              8:55
> > 9670  9670  9665  9665              9:00
> > 9650  9655  9580  9580              9:05
> > 9570  9570  9490  9495              9:10
> > 9495  9570  9480  9570              9:15
> > 9560  9575  9520  9550              9:20
> > 9540  9550  9495  9500              9:25
> > 9450  9450  9300  9325              9:55
> >
> > I have no trades between 9:25 and 8:55 in my data base?
> > don ewers
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <sptrader@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <omega-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 12:36 PM
> > Subject: Dow Jones Futures
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > A friend has requested my help hedging a stock portfolio with Dow
> > > futures.  I do not trade dow futures, have no intraday data for dow
> > > futures, and my data vendor will be closed until the markets reopen.
> > > I'd like to find out where the overnight Dow futures traded in the
> > > half hour prior to being halted yesterday.  I would greatly appreciate
> > > if anyone could give me intraday data for the current contract or tell
> > > me what the low was at the time the market was halted.  I also need to
> > > find out what limit down is for the Dow futures.
> > >
> > > Further, I am  attempting to sort out data discrepancies on daily oil
> > > futures contracts among various vendors.  If anyone could send me one
> > > of the 2000 or 2001 oil (CL) contracts with info of who the data
> > > vendor is, it would be of great help.
> > >
> > > Thank you,
> > > BAK
> > >
>