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Re: stocks suck...electronic futures "rule"-margin requirements



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I am under the impression that Single Stock Futures legislation left the 
responsibility for setting the margins with the U.S. Federal Reserve, the 
same entity that sets the margin rates for regular stock trading.  Someone 
correct me if I am wrong about this.

Thus, stocks and single stock futures are supposed to be on equal margins.  
However, and isn't there always a however, futures are one day settlement.   
Stocks are not.  Stocks are what, T + 3 now?  Trade day, plus 3 days to the 
settlement?  ( I am not a stock broker, so anyone is welcome to correct me if 
I am wrong.)

There are no "exchange" daytrading margins in futures.  The exchange just 
wants the money for the positions by the end of the day.  The brokerage house 
can set the whatever daytrading margins, or overnight margins in excess of 
exchange margins, that it wants.  And given that futures brokerage houses 
will have the funds in hand the first day, or the account will be dealt with, 
I can see an early influence from the daytraders being a factor.  The futures 
brokerages, because of the same day settlement, are in a better position to 
manage their risk.   Thus, I think they can be  a little more lenient in the 
day trading margins for single stock futures.  But this is just a guess.

Regards,

John J. Lothian

Disclosure: Futures trading involves financial risk, lots of it!  John J. 
Lothian is the President of the Electronic Trading Division of The Price 
Futures Group, Inc., an Introducing Broker.


In a message dated 2/18/01 3:56:06 PM Central Standard Time, 
prosys@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx writes:

<< Better question is:
 WHO suggested that 50% be the default margin for single-stock futures ?
 
 The new instrument will have a hard enough time gaining <any> popularity,
 but the above margin req. will just "kill it" IMHO.
 
 margin: chance of success comment
 ------  ------------------------
 30% : maybe
 20% : it has a 50-50 chance
 10% : now you're talking "winner"
 
 That's right....I want to control $60k of Microsoft for a measley $6k
 tie-up.
 Effectively: A $1 move = 17% return on margin
 
 Anyone else ?
  >>