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> "Monte C. Smith" <mcs@xxxxxxxxxxx> writes:

MCS> >Yes, and I've heard some 'debates' between VMS and UNIX adherents
that
MCS> >put democrat-republican frays to shame.

Jim Osborn wrote:
> 
> I can believe it!  For several years we ran both, back in corporateville
> as the engineering computer environment evolved and some things
> ran only under VMS.  DEC was passionately in love with VMS and seemed
> to have to be dragged kicking and screaming into fully supporting Ultrix.
> In the end, it seemed the pressure from their customers won out and
> they jumped on board, but by then Sun was eating their lunch.


There were some great conversations vis-a-vis Unix and VMS in Cliff
Stoll's true story, "The Cuckoo's Egg."


> 
> The general impression in our engineering group was that VMS was
> designed by suits---very secure, reliable, and inflexible---whereas
> the fact that Unix was designed by two hackers for their personal
> use was endearing to the engineers who had to use it---fast, reliable,
> very flexible, and secure enough.

yup, and who would have thunk that the unix CULTURE would have come from
Bell Labs.

> 
> I can see how Bill Gates, the man who made his mark by selling BASIC
> to suits, would be fond of VMS.

That's classic!

Regards,
Monte