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Bilo --

> ps. i respect your opinion but...
> i also  checked out some of your past posts and all i read is
> you having hardware and software setup problems... so far you
> belong to omega list just fine and  in your place
> i would post something like "count me in" and maybe you
> can learn something about systematic trading...pal.

Why do not you check as well on "pals' " trading?  Why to jump on
someone without knowing his systematic trading?

ps. I respect your opinion but...

Val

----- Original Message -----
From: Bilo Selhi <citadel@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <MarketMayvin@xxxxxxx>; Omega List <omega-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, August 11, 2000 4:25 PM
Subject: Re: Proposal about a new "Systems Only" e-mail list / user
group...


> here is what i can tell you.
> all my posts do get sent to me.
>
> if you been in this industry long enough you should know
> that trading systems is a pretty sensitive subject and there
> are plenty of people in this industry that WILL steal your
> code in a second, package it up and start shipping it out.
> that's the normal way it goes. i have seen it done... that is why
> i outlined the  proposal to secure the new list...
>
> i don't want to just help and i don't need help from
> nobody, i want cooperation with the right  individuals.
> i don't want to know what you know, i probably
> know that already, i just also want to share ideas including my
> best ones, bounce ideas from other minds, discuss possibilities,
> step up to the next level namely subject of trading systems
> and maybe learn something from this...
>
> you seem to be a bit paranoid ( me too ),
> that i want to create this list to suck the ideas out.
> if you remember the ATI list that Mark now owns
> it's dead now and same now happening to code list,
> why because people are not about to post stuff that makes them
> money on those open lists, why would they? it's not secure...
> omega  list has always been " help me my hard drive crashed after
> i installed TS update" type of list...
> i just want a secure list where things happen for real...
> does not mean it's going to happen, but at least we can try.
>
> trading is a zero sum game...
> knowledge and information is the edge...
> sharing knowledge = sharing profit... that's correct but
> another main characteristic of a zero sum game,
> if you study it well is...
> cooperation... because cooperation ( with the right individuals
only )
> wins over  individualism.
> that's the name of the game. look at our society. while you are
> being preached "individualism" the people in power that do it to you
are
> in constant cooperation. you end up paying the bills and they end up
> enjoying life laughing at ya...
> bilo.
> ps. i respect your opinion but...
> i also  checked out some of your past posts and all i read is
> you having hardware and software setup problems... so far you
> belong to omega list just fine and  in your place
> i would post something like "count me in" and maybe you
> can learn something about systematic trading...pal.
> and i recommend you check out my previous posts and compare
> them to yours, you'll see who needs basic help and who wants to
share
> ideas...
> enough time spent on this guy...
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <MarketMayvin@xxxxxxx>
> To: <citadel@xxxxxxxxxxxx>; <omega-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2000 9:55 PM
> Subject: Re: Proposal about a new "Systems Only" e-mail list / user
group...
>
>
> > Bilo
> >     Why not just send posts to yourself. This way you can discuss
your
> great
> > ideas with a smart person and you don't have to worry about anyone
> stealing
> > your ideas. Yah! this guy want to help. You mean you want to know
what we
> > know so you can help yourself. Not enoght time in the day for this
guy.
> >
> >
> > Morris
>
>