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In a message dated 6/22/00 7:48:46 PM Central Daylight Time, 
drwar@xxxxxxxxxxxx writes:

<< So then when looking for a new broker what order routing system should we 
be
 looking for to get the best fills? Or does it matter ? I am looking to trade
 short
 time frames intraday.
  >>

***** What online system to chose and brokerage to open with is a good 
question and there is no one correct answer.  Many different traders on this 
list value one thing over another, or visa versa, and thus have selected 
different brokers.

***** For speed and commission cost, I think Interactive Brokers is probably 
at the top.  However, Interactive Brokers offers just barebone service and 
support.  They do not have other brokerage operations to lean on during 
outages, thus you get a funnel effect for problem resolution or phone orders 
if the system has problems. Disclosure: My clearing firm is an authorized 
reseller of the IB TWS.

***** Many other brokerage firms offering online trading have other brokerage 
operations to lean on for phone based service if the online trading system 
goes down.  An example other than my own operation would be Lind Waldock or 
the LFG Division of Refco.  LFG offers online trading via a system called 
Leo.  It connects to TOPS and was I believe the first firm to do so.  Being 
first means you get to make all the mistakes the first time and Leo and LFG 
had some bouts of this which were well documented on this list and others.  
>From the reports on this list and others now though it seems to be running 
pretty well.

***** There are several firms that offer trading via a system from Rolfe & 
Nolan.  Mine is one of them. It is also a system that connects to Globex2 via 
TOPS.  Like LFG and other TOPS users, TOPS based systems are a little slower 
than firms connect to the Frontal Interface or the FIX API.  However, TOPS 
offers brokerages a separate order entry and order management system apart 
from their online system.  Thus, when the online system goes down, a TOPS 
based firm can manage and manipulate the order via a TOPS terminal and take 
new customer orders by phone.  Large TOPS users like LFG or my clearing firm, 
ED&F Man International, have literally dozens and dozens of TOPS terminals 
and experienced users.  Thus, problem resolution is dispersed among the many 
and there is no funnel effect trying to get an entire firm's order flow 
through a handful of Globex2 terminals during an online system outage.  And 
all systems and firms have outages.

***** Firms connecting the FIX API can manipulate their orders by using a 
Globex2 terminal, but experience a funnel effect.  The CME has developed an 
online order management tool, but have yet to deploy it. Firms will be able 
to see their orders in Globex2 placed through the FIX API or TOPS.  They will 
be able to cancel the order only using this system.   Perhaps later versions 
will over more functionality.

**** The real question then is to figure out which you value more, speed or 
service.  I would argue the service is better on the TOPS based systems.  I 
would agree the speed is better on FIX API and Frontal Interface based firms. 
 In the not to distant future though nearly a lot more firms will be 
accessing Globex2 by the FIX API, and then the decision gets back to the 
interface functionality, the price and the service.

***** I have seen many of the systems in use, including IB TWS, Leo, Best, 
etc.  Only you will be able to figure out what is best for you.  I hope this 
helped.

Regards,

John J. Lothian

Disclosure: Futures trading involves financial risk, lots of it!

Disclosure: John J. Lothian is the President of the Electronic Trading 
Division of The Price Futures Group, Inc., an Introducing Broker.