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> Putting all this clutter, jokes, and PR BS aside what
> is the revolutionary advantage that TW offers?
> 
> If we assume product 'A' is established, and has
> significant market share. A product 'B' would have to
> have significant advantages over 'A' in order to have
> any significant number of users jump over. 
> The advantages that 'B' has over 'A' need to offset
> the RISK of moving to a new unknown product (and
> non-established company), cover the COSTS of moving
> over, and offer ADDITIONAL profits to make it all
> worth (why all that work just to break even?).
> 
> Having said all that, I may be missing something but
> what is TW offering that will make it that much better
> than anything else out there?
> 
> 1. As confusing as EasyLanguage might be, it can
> accomplish pretty much anything you want. And while VB
> is and easy programming language, it is a programming
> language that can be very costly to learn well enough
> to use with a trading product (and if you do, you can
> also use DLLs with EZL...). It is so flexible, you
> will find very little examples of things you can do
> trading wise... 
> 2. Omega offers a lot more datafeed choices than TW
> 3. Lets assume there are no significant differences in
> usability issues (I will still have to learn all new
> menues, icons, etc - COST)
> 4. The system reporting capabilities of ts100 are
> pretty damn good. I don't even know what tw offers.
> 
> And so on. There seems to be little or no advantage of
> TW over ts100 so why whould I even bother? as the TW
> people admit, it will be VERY costly to move over...
> and this is not only software $$, but learning and
> setup time as well.
> 
> Anyone?

not anyone - just me :-)

the one aswer to all above is : OMEGA behind prduct A.....

rgds hans









> 
> H
> 
> 
> --- "pierre.orphelin" <pierre.orphelin@xxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
> > Nothing wrong with this post, but it seems that it's
> > a commercial shame
> > to publish this on Omega List. without reacting.
> > 
> > So, I translated for more clarity, according to what
> > I understand between the lines.
> > Maybe, I could be right on some points...
> > Please forgive me if some translation errors
> > occured.
> > English is not my native language.
> > 
> > 
> > That's aside, this TW software is probably a good
> > project for those interested ( we do not discuss of
> > colors) , 
> > but I  do not feel very comfortable with the
> > marketing.
> > Too hard, too agressive, too much old wild west
> > like...
> > And a slight lack of modesty that I cannot
> > explain...
> > 
> > Rgds
> > PO
> > 
> > ----- Message d'origine ----- 
> > De : Steve Yates <smyates@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > À : <omega-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > Envoyé : jeudi 10 février 2000 23:46
> > 
> > Objet : TraderWare Special Offer (  hustling
> > whistle)
> > 
> > 
> > > TraderWare Special Offer ( you hou...)
> >   
> > > TraderWare is in the process of finalizing our
> > Marketing Plan for 2000 and a
> > > number of opportunities/issues have arisen that
> > may be of interest to you.
> > > 
> > 
> > Traderware will finally be released after long
> > months of promising it, and critics to
> >  the leading software  company, from which we have
> > taken all the concepts that we 
> > were able to grab.
> > 
> > 
> > > We are aware of the importance of a large user
> > base and capturing market
> > > share. If we are to grow as we anticipate, the
> > momentum that new users bring
> > > to us is invaluable. 
> > 
> > 1000 or so prospects on Omega list, that is of
> > interest.. You are here, so we are.
> > 
> > >A new (experienced) user today may bring us ten new
> > > users within a year. 
> > 
> > We plan to take some money. 
> > What worked with you once should work again.
> > Your friends may help too.
> > 
> > >We acknowledge the need to make a stronger
> > introduction
> > > into the marketplace with a core group of
> > experienced users and code
> > > writers.
> > 
> > We did not succeed to write somebasic code and we
> > rely on your experience to build a 
> > library with a more complicated language that we did
> > not understand very well. 
> > Maybe someone here ?
> > 
> > >Our objective is to offer this to a group that will
> > start the
> > > conversion to TWX, begin writing code and sharing
> > their ideas with the
> > > group. 
> > 
> > I repeat again: We have to start the project.
> >  A VB compiler is not enough to make this project
> > valid.
> > So please , pay a small fee and please code for us.
> > 
> > >Also, a number of our beta testers have inquired
> > about discounts
> > > because of the effort they have put forth in
> > assisting us in the development
> > > and release of the product.
> > 
> > Yes, we were really unable to do anything, with the
> > exception of linking a langage that is not ours 
> > (Visual Basic) to a server that is no more from US
> > (UMSD)  and to a charting device with proprietary
> > zulu icons.
> > So hurry up and please code now.
> > Beta testerare asking money, and this is not our
> > goal.
> > > 
> > > To accomplish this goal, for a limited time and
> > number of users we will be
> > > offering TraderWareX for $499.95. Please use the
> > order form located at
> > > http://www.traderware.com/twspecial.html
> > 
> > But we expect to get some money from your work.
> > Please fill the form and start your VB class at your
> > expenses.
> > 
> > > 
> > > The $499.95 purchase price includes all updates
> > and enhancements for 2
> > > years. 
> > 
> > We expect to make you work for less than free for
> > two years. Be prepared now.
> > You are not excited  to be paid  for a work?
> > We have a better solution, original and highly
> > exciting:
> > Now you pay to have the right to work fo us.
> > 
> > >That is, if you purchased the software today you
> > would not be billed
> > > for the $500 maintenance fee until February 2002.
> > 
> > We expect to be  still alive in  Feb 2002.
> > We rely on you.
> > Please send VB code ASAP. It's an emergency case.
> > 
> > > Individuals who purchase
> > > more than one copy will only be billed for one
> > $500 maintenance fee.
> > 
> > We have other plans to take money too.
> > 
> > > Corporate and/or commercial accounts will be
> > billed the $500 maintenance fee
> > > per copy.
> > > 
> > 
> > A lot of plans...
> > 
> > > This reduced price should offset any cost of time
> > involved in starting the
> > > conversion process and any new equipment that may
> > be needed. We will
> > > continue to support Win NT and upon release
> > Win2000.  Our standard pricing
> > > will remain in effect for the general public.
> > > 
> > 
> > Then we will attempt to sell your work at higher
> > price.
> > Thanks for taking care of YOUR equipment and OS
> > versions.
> > We need this too.
> > 
> > > 
> > > How good of an offer is this? This equates to
> > $20.83 per month for the two
> > > years. 
> > 
> > We have already calculated how much your work will
> > produce as money,
> > even if you produce VB garbage.
> > 
> > >If you are a serious trader I can not believe every
> > individual would
> > > not accept this offer. We need experienced users
> > and we are offering this
> > > software at a phenomenally low price to offset the
> > conversion process.
> > > Remember this is a limited offer.
> > 
> > Real dummies will take this chance.
> > We know that you are numerous here because you
> > strongly supported MB, who did
> >  a good job here, and finally we need a money proof
> > ( see above).
> > But act now! 
> > 
> > > 
> > > We also need your help in our marketing plan for
> > this year. We will be
> > > attending a number of trade shows throughout the
> > year including The Online
> > > Trading Expo in Oakland Ca, Dallas Tx and Ontario
> > Ca.
> > 
> > We expect to have enough money to pay our hotels and
> > food and so on.
> > Please subscribe now.
> > We want to visit the world and Texas is maybe not
> > "all the world".
> > 
> > > We will also be
> > > placing advertisements in Stock and Commodities
> > and 
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