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los is a poor comparison (unless you had sat los like i did) ...use your
floor broker for real time comparisons...los can be as slow or slower than
quote.com....yes, i hate quote.com because it sucks as a real time professional
feed....the dropouts and disconnects and server delays were more than i
could handle. if you think bmi sat is bad, then quote.com will suck worse.
remember they were offline when bmi was online at the top of the year because
of y2k buggy crap. they demostrate a customer arrogance such that i hope
dbc take em over :))))) ron augustine uses em....i rest my case :))
and your account will suffer if you trade for a living using toy feeds.
most of the guys flocking to quote.com are tinker toy traders, like the
dude who wasted his family. sorry, but that's the way i see it and i make
no apologies for it......quote.com will self destruct terminally due to
it's own success and lack of effort to improve its infrastructure. some
trading list i monitor trash quote.com daily while i rock and roll with
ole shitty bmi.
i have cqg, bmi, and sp comstock, all are sat and all are within 1-2 delay
of my floor broker quotes. i do not believe bmi is as bad as reported, fwiw...........
btw anyone have a tick count with bmi and umds???? that piece o' shit ts4
server IS the problem....but it sucks less than procrap 100 and beta fuzzy
wuzzy vaporware :))
TJ
i've had real time quotes since '78.........cost is NOT an option, but reliability
damn sure is!!!!!
and that's all i got to say 'bout that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! for now, anyway
:)))))))))
At Wed, 12 Jan 2000 18:23:08 -0500, Richard Josslin <TaoOfDow@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
>
>Dear TJ & Group,
>
>I began receving satellite futures data in 1984 from a predecessor of
>BMI, namely,
>Market Information. Market Information was later acquired and became
>the "MI" of
>BMI. BMI was acquired several years ago by DBC, but DBC kept the name
>of BMI. I
>have used BMI in its various corporate configurations (MI, BMI, DBC)
>virtually
>continuously up through 12/31/1999, when I quit. Suffice it to say
>that I found
>both the customer service and the data of MI and the original BMI exemplary.
> My
>experience, however, is that after DBC acquired BMI, the customer service
>dropped
>appreciably. I really don't have any way to comment on the lessening
>of the quality
>of the data over time, although my subjective impression is that it,
> too, has
>suffered.
>
>Let me say for reference that up until a month or two ago, I have only
>followed
>several indeces (INDU, NDX, and TICK) and several futures (SP, DJ, and
>US) ---
>that's all. In the past few months, I have added NDX, ND, and (with
>Quote.com but
>not BMI) a couple of stocks, such as MSFT and AMZN.
>
>Some subjective impressions:
>
>1. In 1996, I began listening to Jeff Jacobsen call the S&P market
>over his Listen
>Only Squawkbox. Among other things, that allowed me to monitor the
>timeliness of
>BMI's SP data. My expereince since then is that the BMI S&P data is
>hardly ever
>more than 2-4 seconds late, except for rare occasions. Those occasions
>do occur and
>are almost always (i) at the open, (ii) at the close, or (iii) immediately
>after
>some outside event, such as a Greenspan announcement. At those times,
> I have timed
>the lag between the call of the Squawkbox and when the BMI data catches
>up, and that
>lag has been as long as several minutes --- IF a lag begins, it often
>exceeds one
>minute. For example, I almost always check the lag if the S&P market
>closes during
>"fast market conditions" by measuring the time interval between when
>I hear the
>closing bell over the Squawkbox and when my computer indicates (as determined
>by
>BMI's signals) that it is now 15 minutes after the hour. In those relatively
>rare
>conditions, the lag is usually over a minute and often several minutes.
> God help me
>if I wanted to exit the S&P market during a volatile close and relied
>on my computer
>and BMI signals to tell me when to do so.
>
>2. Several months ago, I began receiving simultaneous realtime data
>from
>Quote.com. I was astonished that under virtually every condition that
>I observed,
>the Quote.com datafeed was at least 2-4 seconds faster (and sometimes
>much faster)
>than the BMI datafeed. Furthermore, the Quote.com datafeed routinely
>showed ticks
>that the BMI datafeed did not.
>
>For the foregoing reasons, as well as the fact that BMI announced that
>it was
>raising my data fee 45%, and furthermore doing so retroactively, I am
>no longer a
>customer of BMI. I had 15 good years with them (in their various configurations)
>and have no regrets about having used their services. I've just found
>something
>else that I believe that I prefer.
>
>Sincerely,
>
>Richard
>
>
>tradejacker@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
>
>> as compared to what???
>>
>> i only get a several second delay at worst on bmi sat......sometimes
>i wonder
>> if i'm getting a different service than those who report slow bmi
>performance
>> :))
>>
>> i run my comparsions directly to the pit while on the phone with my
>floor
>> broker (quoting bid / ask) during all market conditions....open, close,
>> fast markets, it doesn't matter, i only get a several sec delay at
>WORST!!!
>> and during the day, i monitor performance with los. now i'm talkng
>about
>> only cme index futures; spoos, nasducks, etc.....
>>
>> i admit that bmi IS worthless for stocks and options, but for futures,
> it
>> works for me. i can live with a small sec delay, but dropped connections
>> ala quote.com are intolerable. i'd like to see some tick counts comparing
>> quote.com and bmi on the spoos and e-mini spoos!!!!!
>>
>> and yer right that bmi/dbc are pushing folks to e-signal....i'd bet
>that
>> they would like to scrap all that sat transmission infrastructure
>in a hearbeat,
>> but i think that it would be a HUGE mistake!!!! the internet is NOT
>stable
>> enough for massive data transmission.
>>
>> TJ
>>
>> a 6 yr bmi subscriber
>>
>> At Wed, 12 Jan 2000 07:23:12 -0800 (PST), Roger Dalton <rogerdalton@xxxxxxxxx>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >I have been a BMI satellite subscriber for the past 4
>> >years and have definitely noticed a performance
>> >difference in the past few months. I talked to a BMI
>> >tech yesterday and I was very surprised to hear what
>> >he had to say.
>> >
>> >He said that this was a known problem (2 min delays)
>> >and that it was a bandwidth problem, that didn't exist
>> >a couple of years ago. He also said that they had no
>> >intention of fixing the problem. I could tell that he
>> >was pushing the Esignal (internet feed) side of their
>> >company. Anyway, I was very pleased that I got an
>> >honest answer. I have been speaking with DTN about
>> >using their satellite service.
>> >
>> >Does anyone use DTN after having used BMI or using
>> >both concurrently. I would love to hear about the
>> >differences in quoting speed.
>> >
>> >Thank you.
>> >
>> >Roger
>> >
>>
>
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