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LAN question with NT workstation and Windows 98



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Thanks for the tips.

I'm now having another problem.  My Win 98 machine shows the WinNT machine
in the Network Neighborhood.  However, when I click on the WinNT machine it
asks me for a password.  I tried changing the password in the user manager
but it's not letting me.  It keeps defaulting to a 14 digit password and it
won't change.

I even tried to set up a new user in the user manager and it keeps going
back to a 14 digit password.

Please help.

Thanks,
Danny

----- Original Message -----
From: sen <senfl@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: Danny Mishaan <dmishaan@xxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 1999 1:38 PM
Subject: Re: LAN question with NT workstation and Windows 98 and 3 tips


> Please let me know if any of these help.  I'm still struggling.
>
> 1) Install "file and printer sharing services for Microsoft Networks",
this
> will
> load NetBEUI which will help.
>
>
> 2) Did you share the drive that you want to see over the network? My
> computer;right click on the drive, properties, sharing. Share the drive,
> give it a name and select access rights and password if you need to.
>
>
> 3) It is Nt security - define in NT User Manager your name and password
from
> your Win98 machine at logon time. Give this user full security rights -
> I had the same problem when I included a NT machine in the network.
>
>
> 4) I had a similiar problem. When I talked w/tech support, they told me to
> rename the computer name that wasn't being recognized to something else.
> Dumb as it sounds, it worked.
>
>
> 5) Either your problem is that you have not activated sharing disks from
> both
> machines. Since you seem to have sharing on on one of them, I suspect you
> know how to share disks.
> The problem then must be that you can not see the computer from one of the
> computers. If the disk is shared, this does not really matter, you can
> always mount the disk by simply using the full name when mounting
> (\\machine\disk).
> If your problem is that the name of the machine does not come up in the
> neighborhood, it is likely that your domains are different. For example,
> when logging on to your NT machine, do you log on to the same domain as
you
> have defined in windows 98?
>
> 6) I had (have) the same setup- just make sure that "sharing" is on -go to
> "mycomputer" and file-sharing-new share (don't use default)-be sure all
your
> drives are shared on both machines-(if you want to move data among them.)
>
> 7) Windows 98 cannot talk to NT
>
> 8) did you set up a visible share on the NT computer. Go into NT Explorer,
> right click on a drive you want to share, click sharing, click New Share,
> give it a share name, (the comment can be visible share). This will let
you
> see the drive from other computers and the host computer in Network
> Neighborhood and Nt Explorer. You dont need to do this on the Win98
machine
> only the NT machine.
> Another bugabo is you may need to set up a User Acct on the NT machine for
> the Win98 machine to access the NT machine. Go to Admin Tools/User Mgr.
> Click User/New User and give the Win98 machine its own acct. Use the
unique
> network computer name you gave it when you setup networking and give it a
> password.
> These steps cured the problems you described for me.
> I have 3 computers networked via a Netgear 4 port hub, 2 NT boxes and a
> Win95 laptop. All 3 have internet access via a single Cisco 675 DSL router
> connected to the hub. I use TCP/IP as my only protocol. The Cisco router
> uses DHCP and NAT to subnet the internal IP addresses behind the ISP
> assigned public IP address stored in the router. All 3 computers can see
> each other, transfer files etc and may be simultaneously logged onto the
> internet and surfing or downloading or emailing etc with no speed loss.
>
>
> 9) Here are my three suggestions (try them in this order) that helped in
> solving this little riddle on my own network:
> For the NT machine, from past experience of pulling my hair out: you have
to
> have Net BUI installed (but don't bind to the internet connection) to get
> your NT box to show up on network neighborhood. Silly isn't it?
> Make sure that under the identity tabs for your machines, they have
> different names. This may be a quick solve to your problem.
> Assign a unique IP # to your machines under network settings. Be sure to
> make it in a "safe" IP range such as: 192.168.0.1 - 192.168.255.255.
Assign
> this unique IP # to your LAN cards (not to the internet connection).
> Security tips:
> Unbind your internet connection from all bindings. This will avoid many of
> the security loopholes inherent in many of those protocols.
>
> 10) I have essentially the same set up with Win 95 instead of the Win 98
> machine you have, plus a 3rd machine (Unix running SAMBA so it can
> participate in the MS net). My NetGear Hub is 3-4 years old.
> Since installing SP5 and with it IE 5 on the NT machine, I have observed
> similar behavior at times when using Network Neighborhood to "look at"
> my network. Sometimes the NT machine is there, other times it is not.
> However, permanently mapped shared disks always work as expected, between
> the 3 computers. If you find the key, please let me and the list know.
>
>
> 11) On your NT machine, go to My Computer, right click on your main HD,
> click on
> Sharing and make sure you have Sharing enabled and named. Do the same with
> your Win98 computer.
> I use Sygate, LinkSys 4 port Hub, and LynkSys 10/100 base Lan. Works fine!
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Danny Mishaan <dmishaan@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: sen <senfl@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 1999 1:29 AM
> Subject: Re: LAN question with NT workstation and Windows 98 and 3 tips
>
>
> > Hi Sen,
> >
> > I think I may have the same problem.  If you get any private responses,
> can
> > you please forward them to me.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Danny
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: sen <senfl@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <omega-list@xxxxxxxxxx>; <realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Monday, November 22, 1999 11:09 AM
> > Subject: LAN question with NT workstation and Windows 98 and 3 tips
> >
> >
> > > This weekend I made my first excursion into a home LAN.  I purchased a
4
> > hub
> > > system by Netgear / Baynetworks.
> > >
> > > The machine I use to connect to my dial up ISP is a 133 Pentium with
> > 128megs
> > > of RAM and runs NT workstation 4.0 with service pack 5.
> > >
> > > I have it connected to a Hewlett Packard 450 mhz. machine with 128
megs
> of
> > > RAM running windows 98.
> > >
> > > When I double click on Network Neighborhood on the NT machine, I only
> see
> > > the 98 machine listed in the Network.
> > >
> > > When I double click on Network Neighborhood on the 98 machine, I only
> see
> > > the 98 machine listed in the Network.
> > >
> > > I can transfer files from the NT machine to the 98 machine.
> > >
> > > I can ping the NT machine from the 98 machine.
> > >
> > > The service tech at Netgear duplicated my problem exactly, but he said
> he
> > > couldn't figure it out.  Does anyone have any ideas how I can see my
NT
> > > machine on the Network ?
> > >
> > > Tips:
> > >
> > > Per Sentinal Trading's advice, I went into  network properties and
> unbound
> > > Net Bios from TCP IP.  It really helped my security score  on
> > > http://www.dslreports.com/r3/dsl/secureme
> > > Thanks Sentinal.
> > >
> > > I also think it would be a good idea to have the system communicate
via
> > Net
> > > Beui, because it is faster.  However, I think I have to leave TCP IP
on
> > for
> > > Tradestation 2000 to work.
> > >
> > > Finally, I am using Nshare as recommended by CNET.  It works without a
> > proxy
> > > server and is the easiest thing to use.  A tech at Netgear said
everyone
> > > there uses Sygate if you want to use a proxy server.  They preferred
it
> > over
> > > Wingate because of its simplicity and not crashing their networks.
> > >
> >
>
>