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never meant to direct anything towards you, jim,even though i believe
you had some reservations regarding my m.o. i think you are one of the
few genuine contribuotrs to the list as is ron. so accept my apology- i
advertently dragged you into what i believed to be tj's attack upon some
legitimate researchers who provide worthwhile service.
best regards, tom demark 

JParris@xxxxxxx wrote:
> 
> My apologies to the list for my part in getting this thread going. This is
> the kind of thing that wastes our time and accomplishes very little. We just
> end up calling each other names and stifling the free exchange of ideas. We
> should be feeding OFF of each other, not ON each other. If you did not post
> to this thread you will probably want to exit and delete at this point.
> 
> Tom
> 
> I've gotten a little behind on this thread (busy with the market and
> post-mortem work), but here is my reply to your post of this morning:
> 
> 
>  >pardon me, but ron has every right to challenge what appear to be
>  outrageous complaints as this "writer" is prone to make.<
> 
> Absolutely. Ron is one of the guys who makes this list work, through his
> programming skills and his generosity. I wasn't criticizing his right to
> challenge another post. My one liner was meant to be a gentle nudge reminding
> the readers (especially the newbies) that Ron *may* have an axe to grind.
> 
> As for this "writer", let's call him TJ, he also is a major, major
> contributor to the list. He doesn't do much EL, but he is one of the few
> contributors who gives basic, sound, in-the-trenches trading wisdom. As a
> long time discretionary trader I get more benefit from TJ's posts than from
> Ron's 'cause I don't do EL either. Yes, TJ is brusk, irreverent, cynical,
> arrogant......in fact he has *ALL* the attributes needed to survive as a
> trader. My kind of guy. And after 30+ years in the investment business, most
> of what TJ says rings true. Case in point: I think if you could take TJ's
> original post describing the collapse of the latest piece-of-crap system du
> jour and survey  all of the brokers in the country who have at least 15 or 20
> years experience, you would find that they would agree that it describes a
> situation that is not atypical. This is so obvious to me that I was surprised
> by Ron's reaction and I began to wonder if Ron had an axe to grind - hence,
> my post in response to Ron's. Ron has since posted that it was TJ's attitude
> that prompted his post. I can buy that. I am sure TJ can too. He trades the
> S&P's. He's tough ! !
> 
> >i have observed  ron's thoughtful and deliberative demeanor on this network
> for months and his contributions have always been impartial and in the best
>  interests of the group at large.<
> 
> Yes, I agree !  Weeeellll, impartial?  There *was* the time he expressed his
> support for Clinton - - or  was that someone else ? ;-)
> 
> > unfortunately, individuals, such as the "writer", are repeatedly prone to
> making blanket critical  generalizations without any supportive
> documentation, tarnishing others reputations in the process, but,
> fortunately, demonstrating their own stupidity, biases, and one-sidedness at
> the same time.<
> 
> I think TJ addressed this in an earlier post, although I only glanced at it,
> so, maybe not. I can agree with some of this. Bias? Probably. Just like you
> and me. One-sided? Probably. Just like me and maybe you. Stupid? Definitely
> not! But isn't it the height of pomposity for me to presume to judge him.
> Sorry TJ.
> 
> I realize I could be completely full of crap about all of this. But Tom, if
> you think so, and can't resist the urge to e-mail me and tell me what a
> stupid empty-headed loser bozo I am - please don't copy the whole list. Why?
> First, they already know it and, second, we have already taken up took much
> of their time on this stupid thread!  And, hopefully, any additional comments
> by anyone else will go off list!
> 
> Again, my apologies to those that are still reading.
> 
> Jim
> ___________________
> 
>  JParris@xxxxxxx wrote:
>  >
>  > This sounds like an argument one might hear between a savvy trader and an
>  > Omega solution provider.
>  >
>  > Jim
>  > _____________________________________
>  >  TJ wrote:
>  >
>  >  >i've seen many traders blow out their accounts after purchasing or
> leasing
>  > the
>  >  >latest system de jour which received positive reviews in prominent
>  >  >trade rags such as futures and tasc. newbies, bless their dumb naive
>  >  >hearts, actually believe what is written about these systems and
>  >  >essentially mortgage the farm to throw 5-10k for an curve fit piece of
>  >  >fecal matter that explodes when it is traded for any length of time.
>  >  >this sad scenario repeats itself year after year
>  >
>  >  I
>  > Ron replied:
>  >
>  >  Do you have any objective, verifiable proof that backs-up your statements?
>  >  If so, would you post some references to it?
>  >
>  >  Otherwise, are members of this forum expected to believe your claims just
> as
>  >  you would have them reject the claims of others?
>