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In an effort "to educate Mr. Corovic's naivity" and temper his arrogance, I
shall "help him learn" some history of the Yugoslav Army from WWII (or what
eventually became the Yugoslav Army at the end of the war) to today. They
were organized by Josip Broz Tito and the Yugoslav Socialist Party (re:
communist). This whole political-military-police organization was heavily
laden with Stalinists many of whom were trained and educated in the U.S.S.R.
before the war. The military/police methods and tactics they employed then
are exactly the same as those they employ today i.e. brutality, terror,
repression, assassination, arbitrary detention and torture, scorched-earth
policies and mass executions. Only during WWII, it was directed at their
political enemies and today it's directed at their ethnic ones. Their
military-police culture seems to have been handed down from one generation
to the next. If you don't believe me, believe Milovan Djilas who was one of
Tito's former right-hand men during the war. He describes many of these
events in excruciating detail in his writings.
If society was so just and fair in the Yugoslav Federation (the capital
being Belgrade, Serbia), why did Slovenia, Croatia, Bosnia and now Kosovo
risk everything to gain independance? If it was such a fully-integrated and
democratic country, if there was equal participation of all the former
republics in the affairs of governement and its institutions, if each
republic (or autonomous province) enjoyed it's fair share of the federal
government assets and services then how did the main Yugoslav republic,
Serbia, get all the military weaponary, heavy guns, tanks etc.? When the
Federation began to split apart shouldn't the military have split along the
same lines?
Even within the borders of former Republics, how did the Bosnian Serb Army
(BSA) get all the heavy weaponary, while the "official" Bosnian governement
in Sarajevo get nothing? When civil war broke out there did the "benign and
benevolent" Yugoslavian government or the Yugoslav Army ever send any
humanitarian aid, food and medical supplies or provide temporary shelter to
non-Serb refugees? No way, they were too busy arming and supporting the
Bosnian Serbs. Serbians all around the world are up in arms screaming
bloody murder now that Serbia is being bombed by NATO but when the BSA
surrounded towns and cities with heavy artillary and pounded them
indiscriminately into rubble while the Bosnian Army, at least initially,
fought back with only hunting rifles they were totally silent.
After WWII, Europe overlooked all the war crimes and crimes against
humanity committed by the Yugoslav Army under the leadership of the
communist regime because they were our allies against the Nazis. In fact,
the atrocities committed by communist regimes all over Eastern Europe and
Asia were every bit as heinous as the Nazi holocaust, both in terms of size
and scope (some French Scholars recently put the figure at 100 million
people). The only difference being that the Nazis orchestrated their
holocaust in the name of anti-semitism and the Communists organized theirs
in the name of communist ideology. In a sense, we are just now picking up
where we left off in 1945. We didn't deal with it then because the
perpetrators were too militarily powerful. But we have to deal with it now
or it will continually rear it's ugly head far into the future.
Regards,
Mark.
PS Given a choice, I would rather recieve my education in the USA rather
than in Yugoslavia any day.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dejan Corovic [mailto:Dejan.Corovic@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: March 28, 1999 5:17 AM
> To: Omega-List Forum; robert.cummings@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: War(Offsubject)
>
>
> To educate Robert W Cummings naivity, I shall help him learn that
> since war
> between Serbs and Albanians broke out 2,000 civilian deaths were
> recorded by
> your own observers. On other hand, American stauncehd allay,
> Turkey, killed
> so far 35,000 Kurds in ongoing campaing to estinquish them.
>
> So, my dear Mr. R.W. Cummings, since you are trader you must be good with
> numbers, according to your civilized opinion who should be bombed first:
> Turks or Serbs.
>
> Since you must be American and thus wanting in education,
> Serbians received
> Chrisitianity and established their monasteries in Kosovo as far as 9th
> century (while you were still hunting buffalos). Albaninas did not move in
> Kosovo, till after second World War, as refugies escaping from comunist
> teror of their dictator Enver Hogha. Most of their elders do not even have
> traveling documents. They have as much right to Kosovo as
> Mexicans on Texas
> or California.
>
> Nations now getherd to bomb my country, outnumber Serbs 50 : 1 in terms of
> population size, not to mention wast technological supremacy. I can only
> take enormous pride in fact that it takes 50 Americans to do 1 Serb.
>
> Regards
> Dejan Corovic
>
> P.S.
> Or is it maybe that your pressident behaved as no president of any other
> country, and you have to recover a little bit of self respect.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: SJ [mailto:enchant@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: 28 March 1999 05:29
> To: Omega List
> Subject: Re: War(Offsubject)
>
> SJ wrote:
>
> > Robert,,,,
> >
> > Why is it that when America has a world series event, The USA
> is the only
> > competitor?
> > Kinda reminds me of NATO,,, Yes it is made up of lots of nations
> ...everyone
> > does what they are told by the "US forces"
> > The Gulf war was a classic, nothing to do with liberating people and all
> to do
> > with proctecting "oil" as the t-shirt said what if "Kuwait grew
> broccoli?"
> >
> > I do not remember "God" giving "Americans" the sole use or morality or
> > judgement.
> > since when has the US Miltiary being the conscience/consciousness of the
> > world.
> >
> > How would you like it if we came and bombed the crap out of your cities
> > because as a nation you "ethnically cleansed" the Native Indians and the
> > Afro-Americans?
> >
> > Still I have the utmost respect for the ordinary American as I
> do for the
> > ordinary and humble around the world, but lets keep some perspecive!
> > Stephen
> > "simpleman not superman"
> > "if everyone cleaned up there own doorstep the world would be a
> wonderful
> > place"!!!!!
> >
> > Robert W Cummings wrote:
> >
> > > SJ,
> > > We all have a responsibility to stop so called ethic cleansing or any
> > > Genocide not only as Americans but as a civilization. The killing of
> > > innocent woman and children is horrible and has to stop.
> Besides its not
> > > the US its NATO.
> > >
> > > Robert
> > >
> > > SJ wrote:
> > > >Sad,, it is but what about the people on the ground the USA have no
> right
> > > >interfering in a sovereign nation!!
> > >
>
>
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