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Re: averaging down and future trading


  • To: Ron Augustine <RonAug@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Subject: Re: averaging down and future trading
  • From: wong <whs@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1999 23:14:34 -0500 (EST)
  • In-reply-to: <2.2.16.19990322165921.68075c60@xxx-server>

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Hi Ron:

Thanks for the reminder.

I guess when I was writing the previous post, I was preoccupied with the
potential loss side.

So here's the potential profit side, re: stocks and options.

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At 05:01 PM 03/22/99 -1000, Ron Augustine wrote:
       
>You should point out the Up-side profit potential, based on a reasonable
>increase in IBM over the next year-- both in the Stock and Option positions.

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Trading IBM stocks:
1.	Buy 100 shares of IBM @ 150, total $15,000.
2.	Buy 150 shares of IBM @ 120, total $18,000.
3.	Buy 200 shares of IBM @ 100, TOTAL $20,000.
Total shares bought= 450;  total $= 53,000.
Averge cost per share = 117.75.


What if stock goes up to ...
----------------------------

average	future		P/L 		P/L		P/L
Cost		price		per shr	$total		(%)
------		-------	-------	------		---
117.75		120.00		 2.25		 1,013		 2
117.75		125.00		 7.25		 3,263		 6
117.75		130.00		12.25		 5,513		10
117.75		135.00		17.25		 7,763		15
117.75		140.00		22.25		10,013		19
117.75		145.00		27.25		12,263		23
117.75		150.00		32.25		14,513		27
117.75		155.00		37.25		16,763		32
117.75		160.00		42.25		19,013		36
117.75		165.00		47.25		21,263		40
117.75		170.00		52.25		23,513		44
117.75		175.00		57.25		25,763		49
117.75		180.00		62.25		28,013		53
117.75		185.00		67.25		30,263		57
117.75		190.00		72.25		32,513		61
117.75		195.00		77.25		34,763		66
117.75		200.00		82.25		37,013		70
(note: commission excluded from calculation)



Trading, say, IBM JAN2001 150 calls: 
1.	Buy 10 contracts @ 15, total $15,000.
2.	Buy 15 contracts @ 12, total $18,000.
3.	Buy 20 contracts @ 10, total $20,000.
Total contracts bought= 45;  total $= 53,000.
Average cost per contract = 11.75


>From here, I use an options evaluation program and certain assumptions to
calculate possible options prices at various stock levels at a certain late
date.

1.	Last options bought (20 @ $10) was this morning, assuming the stock was at
	$100 (never mind if the ACTUAL price of IBM was different).
2.	IBM zigzags upwards, until 6 months or so later (MAKE IT SEP 30, 1999), the
	stock rises to a range from $120 to $200.
3.	Based on the options evaluation program, on 99-09-30, the corresponding
	option values relative to the stock will be:

							45 cnts	
					P/L per	P/L		P/L
	Stock		Option		contract	$total		(%)
	-----		------		--------	------		----
	120		13.875		 2.125		  9,563	 18
	125		16.125		 4.375		 19,688	 37
	130		18.625	 	 6.875		 30,938	 58
	135		21.250		 9.500		 42,750	 81
	140		24.000		12.250		 55,125	104
	145		27.000		15.250		 68,625	129
	150		30.000		18.250		 82,125	155
	155		33.375		21.625		 97,313	184
	160		36.750		25.000		112,500	212
	165		40.250		28.500		128,250	242
	170		43.750		32.000		144,000	272
	175		47.500		35.750		160,875	304
	180		51.375		39.625		178,313	336
	185		55.250		43.500		195,750	369
	190		59.250		47.500		213,750	403
	195		63.250		51.500		231,750	437
	200		67.500		55.750		250,875	473
(note: commission excluded from calculation)


DON'T FORGET THAT IF IBM DOES NOT GO UP, YOU LOSE IN BOTH STOCK AND
OPTIONS.  BUT IN OPTIONS, THERE IS A DANGER OF EXPIRING TO $ 0, EVEN THOUGH
THEY ARE LEAPS.


Regards,

Wong