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RE: Spammers Taking Over Omega List



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Brian,

You're obviously not a discretionary daytrader working on 5 min. bars, so 
you can be excused for insisting on real time results.

As a daytrader (S&P, not Bonds), using  methods not unlike Bill Eykyn's, I 
can attest to the difficulty in providing real time signals. Based upon 
what I have seen from the various gif's posted by him, his is not a system 
like those sold by most of the vendors that lurk within this list, but a 
method that involves some degree of subjectivity and is near to impossible 
to computerize. Like mine, his method of trading would involve reacting 
instantly to a particular price action, be it a trendline break, pattern 
breakout, double bottom, whatever. Likely, the next 5 to 30 minutes would 
be spent managing the trade in an extremely intense fashion, involving 
input from a number of sources, including measured objectives, support and 
resistance areas, elapsed time, risk to reward ratios, fear and greed.

All of the above leads me to believe that no one, trading the way that he 
does, has the time to post real time results. And posting those results a 
few minutes after the start of the trade, even if he had the time, would 
likely bring a deluge of accusations of fraud and manipulation from some of 
the knee-jerkers on this list (present company excepted)!

If you want to hang the man, do so for his alleged spamming, not for his 
lack of real time results.

No affiliation, etc.........

Andrew Nopper

-----Original Message-----
From:	Brian Massey [SMTP:bnm03@xxxxxxx]
Sent:	Thursday, November 12, 1998 1:33 AM
To:	List, Omega
Subject:	RE: Spammers Taking Over Omega List
...snip...
The Bill Elkyn incident is a perfect example.  He has posted for months
about his prfitable approach to bond trading yet when invited to post real
time results to prove the effectiveness of his methods, he has yet to
accept.  How reliable can his method be if he is unwilling to demonstrate 
to others the effectivenes of his approach?
...snip...