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Mr. IBM
If you'll read the following:
http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/q182/9/67.asp?FR=0
You'll see that the changes necessary for the COMMAND.COM have nothing to do
with the KERNEL!! It has to do with some OLD DOS commands like Dir & Date.
GIVE ME A BREAK!! Who still uses DOS COMMANDS?? Those that don't know how to
use Win95, like you for instance. Win95 was meant and designed for
applications that use the 32 Bit api (which stands for Application Programmers
Interface, Mr. IBM) If one uses those applications, like Win95 was meant for,
there would be NO PROBLEMS.
This so called Y2K patch was meant for old farts like you, who are stuck in
the Stone Age and can't get out of using the DOS environment. Notice how I say
DOS environment? Versus Windows 95 environment, which is Y2K compliant. Well
even though DOS 7.0 is supposed to be apart of Win95. I still consider (along
with others) Win95 to be a separate, working, self-sustaining environment. Why
else would Microsoft eliminate the need for the Config.sys and Autoexec.bat?
Because of the Registry!! NOT BAD FOR A KID WITH A SUNTAN!!
Regards,
UMCANE01
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Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 16:11:00 -0500
From: "John O. Romero" <romeroj@xxxxxxx>
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UMCANE01@xxxxxxx wrote:
> Sorry "dude",
>
> But I believe you're mistaken about Win95. Just check the available "date
> formats" that exist within the Win95 environment. You'll find that a four-
> digit year is available. Once in this mode, Win95 is Y2K compliant. Any
other
> questions?
Matt,
To all others a very long post to answer this once and for all.
I really try to stay out of these pissing contests, but when you come on soo
strong, you just might need to be put in your place. I work for IBM and have
had
meetings with lead tech / dev mgmt in msft about these very issues on more
than
one occasion this year. In maore instances than not, W95 is Y2K compliant,
but it
is NOT compliant. Most does not cut it. Either it is or it isn't.
You are wrong. Even on the msft web page they still admit it is not compliant
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even after downloading the patches they already have fixed..
MSFT TechNet - Year 2000 Product Guide
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/topics/year2k/product/user_view524xx.htm
Below is the contents of the web page.
Windows 95 (OSR) OEM Service Release
Return to Product Guide Home Page
Product: Windows 95 (OSR) OEM
Service Release 1, 2, 2.1, 2.5
Versions: 4.00.950C
Compliant: YES w/minor
issues
Language: English (US)
Operational Range for Data:
2036
Rele
ase
Date:
Prerequisites: Updated versions of WINFILE.EXE and
COMMAND.COM. For more information see Knowledge
Base article Q182967.
Product Dependencies:
Clock Dependencies: PC BIOS
How the product handles dates:
Storage. All dates are stored internally as 4-digit
dates.
MS-DOS file system API’s are an exception. MS-DOSÒ
file system APIs use a year offset from 1980 to store
dates. When a program gets a date from an MS-DOSÒ API
the program must add 1980.
Two-digit shortcut handling: MS-DOS? DATE command will
not
accept 2-digit date changes for the year 2000
and beyond. To enter the correct date, a 4-digit year
must
be entered to the DATE command (internal to
COMMAND.COM). Failure to enter the correct 4-digit date
will result in an "invalid date" error. This issue is fixed
by the updated version of COMMAND.COM.
Also, since the MS-DOSÒ file system API’s only return a
year offset from 1980, the programmer has to add 1980
to the date value returned to get the correct date.
Win32
API’s are not affected by this.
Product Issues:
Explorer (EXPLORER.EXE) supports 4-digit dates but must
be
set in Control Panel, Regional Settings.
Windows File Manager (WINFILE.EXE) does not display
dates
beyond the year 2000.
This issue is resolved by the following updated file
for
Windows 95, all versions:
WINFILE.EXE Version 4.00.951 dated 3/11/97
9:51a
155,456
To install the update obtain WIN95Y2K.EXE from
ftp://ftp.microsoft.com/softlib/mslfiles. This file also contains
updated versions of COMMAND.COM. For more information
see
Knowledge Base article Q182967, "Windows 95
Year 2000 Problems with DATE and DIR Commands."
COMMAND.COM does not display 4-digit dates and the DATE
command (internal to COMMAND.COM) does not
correctly handle 2-digit dates from 00–79. Entering
this
command returns the error "Invalid Date".
This issue is resolved by the following updated file
for
Windows 95 retail release and OEM Service Release 1
(4.00.950A):
COMMAND.COM (no version info) dated 3/23/98 9:51am
93,034 bytes
This issue is resolved by the following updated file
for
Windows 95 OSR2, OSR 2.1 (4.00.950B) and OSR 2.5
(4.00.950C):
COMMAND.COM (no version info) dated 3/23/98
11:12am
93,974 bytes
To install the update obtain WIN95Y2K.EXE from
ftp://ftp.microsoft.com/softlib/mslfiles. This file also contains
both updated versions of COMMAND.COM and installs the
correct version. This file also contains the updated
version of WINFILE.EXE. For more information see
Knowledge
Base article Q182967.
Issues with the Find command are as follows:
The Find File or Folders dialog's Date tab displays the
year in YY format. This format results in incorrect displays
for years greater than 2000. For example, entering
03/20/2003 will incorrectly display 03/20/C3. However this
does not effect the search. When searching for files
changed within a certain date range, enter a 2-digit or
4-digit date and the search will be performed based on
the
dates entered.
Microsoft is currently investigating a fix for
this
issue. Note: Installing Microsoft Internet Explorer 4.0 or
later will resolve this issue.
The Find File or Folders dialog’s Date tab allows users
to
search for files changed in the previous X months or X
years. This does not work correctly for dates past
12/31/1999. The Find command incorrectly identifies all files
as changed.
Microsoft is currently investigating a fix for
this
issue.
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