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Re: Y2K Compliance in Old Versions of TS & SC



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I'd like to try to summarize your thoughts about a Y2K patch for SuperCharts 2.1
- because there are a fair number of people here who are interested in such a
patch.

1.  You're not familiar with the product.

2.  You don't know whether it can be fixed - and - if it can be fixed - how much
time it would take you to develop a "patch".  Therefore - you don't know what
you'd have to charge - overall - on a time and materials (like a new computer)
basis for any patch that would be possible (if indeed - one is possible).

3.  I assume that you're willing to work on a "cost plus" basis on projects like
this - with no guarantee that the project will have a successful conclusion.
But I also assume that most users aren't willing to pay "cost plus" - especially
since you can't guarantee that you can produce a workable patch.  I'm in that
category - and I assume most of the people with whom I've communicated share my
thoughts.

Please correct me if my understanding of your situation is incorrect.  Robyn

Scientific Approaches wrote:

> My original comments about Y2K problems being easy to fix related to fixing
> whatever problems exist in our own copy of TradeStation 4, Build 20.  That
> idea has been extended by others to the possibility of fixing problems in
> other products, versions and builds.
>
> There are much different considerations with that proposition.
>
> 1. Omega made big changes to the Omega Server historical database when going
> from TS 3.51 to TS 4.0.  The organization of data in the new database is
> completely different.  They also made big changes to other things.
>
> 2. I am intimately familiar with TS 4, Build 20.  I am not nearly as
> familiar with earlier versions of TradeStation or SuperCharts.  Fixing
> problems in earlier versions would be much more difficult, because I would
> have to spend days learning details I already know about TS 4.
>
> 3. Neither TS 3.51 nor SuperCharts could not be safely installed on our TS 4
> computer for the purpose of developing patches.  We don't have a free
> computer that could be used.  One would have to acquired.
>
> 4. It would be necessary to have historical data in the old TS 3.51 database
> format.  We no longer have that, because the TS 4 upgrade program converted
> our TS 3.51 database to the new format.  Someone could provide it, but
> additional time would be required to obtain and install it.
>
> 5. The actual sales potential is doubtful, even if a TS 4 patch was provided
> .  Whatever that potential actually might be, the number of people wanting
> patches for various old products would be far less.
>
> Even if there were no legal considerations, which I still think there could
> be, it would not be economically feasible to provide patches for old
> products.  Our published rate for technical consultation and computer
> programming is $150 per hour.  Our time is always fully booked.  We couldn't
> acquire a computer, install old software, spend days learning details we
> would need to know about it, and provide technical support to a limited
> number of customers for the value of the software we would be patching.
>
> I understand why some would like to be able to keep using old versions of
> SuperCharts, but there is no reason to keep using old versions of
> TradeStation...