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Re: [EquisMetaStock Group] Using Metastock to trade FUTURES?



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I trade the NASDAQ FUTURES AND THE BIG S&P ALSO, but you look at all 
three charts and trade the index which has the most trending ability 
to make money. If the S&P or NASDAQ ever trend better than the Dow I 
will trade them more.
KS.

--- In equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "metastkuser" 
<andysmith_999@xxxx> wrote:
> KS,
> 
> Yes I'm noticing that mini Dow (YM) is more trendy than e-mini S&P
> (ES). The nighttime spikes on mini Dow are a problem for position
> traders so I'm looking at the Big Dow but I'm not sure how suitable
> the Big Dow is for retail traders -- for example, it is pit-traded 
and
> I can't use IB for it...
> 
> How many days-in-trade, on average, was one of your 600 point runs?
> 
> Do you trade the Big S&P ($250 points)?
> 
> Thanks,
> Andy
> 
> --- In equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "formulaprimer"
> <formulaprimer@xxxx> wrote:
> > Dow has veen very trendy the past two years. I've alraady traded 
> > about 6 major trades this year. the prvious year around 8 all 
year 
> > long. The average trade was about 600 points long and short. 
That is 
> > about $3,000.00 per contract on the dow mini and $6,000.00 per 
> > contract on the Big Dow. Just multiply the profit with the 
amount of 
> > contracts and you can see it has been a very good year and a 
half.
> > KS.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- In equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "v" <entinv@xxxx> wrote:
> > > KS,
> > > 
> > > As you mentioned good trend trades happen only several times a 
> > year.  How
> > > many trades a year
> > > do you make on average?
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Thanks,
> > >    Vladimir
> > >   -----Original Message-----
> > >   From: equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > [mailto:equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of 
formulaprimer
> > >   Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2005 6:26 AM
> > >   To: equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >   Subject: Re: [EquisMetaStock Group] Using Metastock to trade 
> > FUTURES?
> > > 
> > > 
> > >   One more thing. I trade between 1-100 contracts sizes of the 
dow
> > >   mini's.  The maximum position one could hold on the minis 
before
> > >   having to declare is 2500 contracts or it could be doubled 
to 
> > 5000
> > >   contracts I haven't checked recently. So it is pretty broad. 
I 
> > still
> > >   use the same money management plan.
> > >   KS.
> > >   example: with 1 lot I test the trend and will handle a 
$250.00 
> > loss.
> > >   With a major trend I will enter 100 lot and will suffer a 
> > $25,000.00
> > >   draw down with a profit to reward ratio of 3:1. I will never 
> > enter a
> > >   large position trade without a 3:1 risk to reward ratio. 
> > Basically
> > >   if i risk $25,000.00  I must return $75,000.00 in profit. 
Keep in
> > >   mind major trend trades happen a several times a year.
> > >   KS.
> > > 
> > > 
> > >   --- In equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "formulaprimer"
> > >   <formulaprimer@xxxx> wrote:
> > >   > The funds move the market and the commercials hedge the 
market.
> > >   The
> > >   > big money is made by the funds and they trade the Big 
Board. 
> > The
> > >   > mini has too many artificial spikes from overnight trading 
or
> > >   small
> > >   > lot traders getting overdone in a situation. Basically the 
Big
> > >   Board
> > >   > is a more technically sound chart. This is always the case.
> > >   > KS.
> > >   >
> > >   >
> > >   > --- In equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "metastkuser"
> > >   > <andysmith_999@xxxx> wrote:
> > >   > > KS, one more: Why not chart the minis? Why trade by the 
Big
> > >   > Contracts
> > >   > > and enter in the mini contracts?
> > >   > >
> > >   > > Thanks!
> > >   > >
> > >   > >
> > >   > >
> > >   > > --- In equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "formulaprimer"
> > >   > > <formulaprimer@xxxx> wrote:
> > >   > > > I think the dow mini is $5 a point and and the full 
dow 
> > future
> > >   > > > contract is 10$ a point. That is what i go on.  1% of 
of my
> > >   > initial
> > >   > > > margin of $2500 is $25 dollars which is 5 points. This 
is 
> > of
> > >   > course
> > >   > > > when I do random entry technique. Other wise from my
> > >   experience
> > >   > if
> > >   > > > the dow moves more than 50 points against me I usually 
get
> > >   out.
> > >   > That
> > >   > > > is just my experience but it could be different for 
others.
> > >   > > > KS.
> > >   > > >
> > >   > > > --- In equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "metastkuser"
> > >   > > > <andysmith_999@xxxx> wrote:
> > >   > > > > <formulaprimer@xxxx> wrote:
> > >   > > > > > I trade daily, intraday, or position depending on 
how 
> > the
> > >   > charts
> > >   > > > > > look.  The reason I say "no sleep" is that I don't 
put
> > >   stops
> > >   > in
> > >   > > > > > because all electronic orders can be viewed by 
other
> > >   traders
> > >   > > > because
> > >   > > > > > the real time quotes puts them up for everybody to 
see.
> > >   This
> > >   > > > means
> > >   > > > > > that stops will get picked off. You will 
experience 
> > this
> > >   for
> > >   > > > > > yourself, when it goes down to hit your stop and 
then
> > >   > proceeds
> > >   > > > to go
> > >   > > > > > back up again.  Since it is electronic it means
> > >   > instantaneous
> > >   > > > fills
> > >   > > > > > or close to it.  When the price hits my loss 
target I 
> > put
> > >   > the
> > >   > > > order
> > >   > > > > > in at the market, This is the stop process the 
Turtles
> > >   made
> > >   > > > famous
> > >   > > > > > and is probably the only thing that is useful from 
what
> > >   they
> > >   > > > > > originally did.
> > >   > > > >
> > >   > > > > KS, doesn't hiding your stops only matter if you are 
> > trading
> > >   > very
> > >   > > > > large positions? Also if you are using wider stops 
in the
> > >   case
> > >   > of
> > >   > > > > position trading (say 2 ATRs) then is getting your 
stops
> > >   > picked off
> > >   > > > > still a problem, given the wider stops?
> > >   > > > >
> > >   > > > > >Of course I'm referring to electronic markets of dow
> > >   > > > > > mini and others. I do not trade the pit contracts 
> > unless
> > >   I'm
> > >   > > > > > position trading even then I prefer the 
electronic.  
> > The
> > >   > > > leverage or
> > >   > > > > > granularity you talk about is only relevant if you 
talk
> > >   > about
> > >   > > > risk.
> > >   > > > > > The higher the point value the greater the risk to 
> > reward
> > >   > ratio.
> > >   > > > If
> > >   > > > > > you are beginning i would recommend the dow mini 
> > contract.
> > >   > $5
> > >   > > > > > dollars a point and $2500.00 a contract. 
Volatility 
> > meters
> > >   > and
> > >   > > > price
> > >   > > > > > range can help with money management portion of the
> > >   trading.
> > >   > The
> > >   > > > Dow
> > >   > > > > > market are the easiest to trade because they trade 
in a
> > >   > range
> > >   > > > bound
> > >   > > > > > pattern. Take a look at a historical chart of the 
dow
> > >   > futures
> > >   > > > > > contract. Do not chart the mini. Trade by the Big
> > >   Contracts
> > >   > and
> > >   > > > > > enter in the mini contracts.
> > >   > > > >
> > >   > > > > This is a big disconnect for me. Why trade by the Big
> > >   > Contracts and
> > >   > > > > enter in the mini contracts? Why not chart the minis?
> > >   > > > >
> > >   > > > > > (example of my last trade would be: I shorted the 
mini 
> > sep
> > >   > dow
> > >   > > > at
> > >   > > > > > 10700 with a target stop loss of 50 points or 
$250.00 
> > and
> > >   it
> > >   > > > went to
> > >   > > > > > 10734 and collapsed to 10580 which then I exited 
at the
> > >   > market
> > >   > > > > > because it hit trend line support. I checked the 
stop
> > >   orders
> > >   > > > place
> > >   > > > > > at the time the market went to 10734 and the last 
stop
> > >   order
> > >   > was
> > >   > > > at
> > >   > > > > > that price 10734, then the market collapsed. So the
> > >   > reasoning is
> > >   > > > > > that if I could see it the big leverage players 
will 
> > move
> > >   > the
> > >   > > > market
> > >   > > > > > to pick off the buy stop and let the market go 
down to 
> > its
> > >   > > > proper
> > >   > > > > > trend.
> > >   > > > >
> > >   > > > > I see your point. Again, if 10734 was for a small 
number 
> > of
> > >   > > > contracts,
> > >   > > > > the big players may not have walked the index up 
there to
> > >   take
> > >   > out
> > >   > > > a
> > >   > > > > few contracts... but who knows. Your example uses a 
50 
> > point
> > >   > stop.
> > >   > > > 1
> > >   > > > > ATR is around 95 points, so if this was a position 
trade,
> > >   > isn't the
> > >   > > > > stop a bit tight?
> > >   > > > >
> > >   > > > > >My stop method is from years of experience in this 
> > market
> > >   > > > > > and requires the ability to immediately exit a 
trade 
> > when
> > >   > the
> > >   > > > target
> > >   > > > > > stop loss is hit. It does not matter if it goes 
back 
> > down.
> > >   > You
> > >   > > > get
> > >   > > > > > out. Any change in this money management technique 
will
> > >   > cause
> > >   > > > losses.
> > >   > > > >
> > >   > > > > Yes, I understand, discipline.
> > >   > > > >
> > >   > > > > > One quick note : I tested with real money with a 
coin
> > >   flip.
> > >   > I
> > >   > > > > > entered long if it is heads and short if it is 
tails. I
> > >   put
> > >   > the
> > >   > > > stop
> > >   > > > > > loss at 1% or $25.00 or 5 ticks.
> > >   > > > >
> > >   > > > > I don't follow. 5 ticks is 0.05% of the Dow 
(5/10000). 
> > How
> > >   do
> > >   > you
> > >   > > > get 1%?
> > >   > > > >
> > >   > > > > > With this money management
> > >   > > > > > technique I was profitable.  Basically random 
entry 
> > into
> > >   the
> > >   > > > market
> > >   > > > > > with a proper money management system made it 
> > profitable.
> > >   > > > Trading
> > >   > > > > > is 90% money management 10% technical. I use to 
think 
> > it
> > >   was
> > >   > the
> > >   > > > > > other way around but it took awhile to figure this 
out.
> > >   > > > >
> > >   > > > > I completely agree. THanks so much for your 
comments, KS.
> > >   > > > >
> > >   > > > > > KS.
> > >   > > > > >
> > >   > > > > >
> > >   > > > > >
> > >   > > > > > --- In 
equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "metastkuser"
> > >   > > > > > <andysmith_999@xxxx> wrote:
> > >   > > > > > > KS,
> > >   > > > > > >
> > >   > > > > > > If you don't mind a few questions:
> > >   > > > > > >
> > >   > > > > > > 1) Do you daytrade ES and YM or trade multi-day?
> > >   > > > > > >
> > >   > > > > > > 2) Do you see any benefit from the added 
granularity 
> > of
> > >   YM
> > >   > > > over ES
> > >   > > > > > > (i.e. YM tick is $1, ES tick is $0.25, but YM is 
10x 
> > ES
> > >   > which
> > >   > > > means
> > >   > > > > > > ES=$0.25 and YM=$0.10 in apples-to-apples). Does 
YM's
> > >   finer
> > >   > > > > > > granularity allow your stops to be shaken out 
less?
> > >   > > > > > >
> > >   > > > > > > 3) Leveraging cuts both ways, but e-mini traders 
only
> > >   > speak of
> > >   > > > it's
> > >   > > > > > > goodness (as you are confirming). Why is that? 
Have 
> > you
> > >   > never
> > >   > > > been
> > >   > > > > > > hurt by the high leverage?
> > >   > > > > > >
> > >   > > > > > > 4) "Sleep is not an option because of night 
trading".
> > >   I'm
> > >   > > > assuming
> > >   > > > > > > vigilant stop placement for ES/YM end-of-day 
traders
> > >   > allows
> > >   > > > for
> > >   > > > > > sleep?
> > >   > > > > > >
> > >   > > > > > > Thank you for your help, KS.
> > >   > > > > > > Andy.
> > >   > > > > > >
> > >   > > > > > >
> > >   > > > > > > --- In 
> > equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "formulaprimer"
> > >   > > > > > > <formulaprimer@xxxx> wrote:
> > >   > > > > > > > I can't speak for anybody else but I have been 
> > trading
> > >   > the
> > >   > > > Dow
> > >   > > > > > > > Futures and Dow Mini and S&P mini since it 
began. 
> > Once
> > >   > you
> > >   > > > trade
> > >   > > > > > > > them you will never go back to stocks. It is 
> > because
> > >   of
> > >   > the
> > >   > > > > > > > leveraging.  All the indexes move in direct 
> > relation
> > >   to
> > >   > the
> > >   > > > > > Stock
> > >   > > > > > > > Market indexes so any long term direction must 
be 
> > done
> > >   > with
> > >   > > > the
> > >   > > > > > Big
> > >   > > > > > > > Board not the mini's.  Be warned the Night 
Trading
> > >   moves
> > >   > the
> > >   > > > > > market
> > >   > > > > > > > tremendously sometimes and sometimes sleep is 
not 
> > an
> > >   > option.
> > >   > > > > > > > Otherwise if your technical analysis is at a 
high
> > >   level
> > >   > you
> > >   > > > will
> > >   > > > > > > > like it. August issue of Futures magazine I 
think 
> > has
> > >   a
> > >   > good
> > >   > > > > > article
> > >   > > > > > > > on options.
> > >   > > > > > > > KS.
> > >   > > > > > > >
> > >   > > > > > > >
> > >   > > > > > > > --- In 
> > equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "metastkuser"
> > >   > > > > > > > <andysmith_999@xxxx> wrote:
> > >   > > > > > > > > Vladimir,
> > >   > > > > > > > >
> > >   > > > > > > > > Thank you for taking the time to answer my
> > >   questions.
> > >   > > > > > > > >
> > >   > > > > > > > > In your experience, how would you compare 
trading
> > >   the
> > >   > > > index
> > >   > > > > > versus
> > >   > > > > > > > > trading the futures? For example, trading ES 
vs.
> > >   SPX,
> > >   > or
> > >   > > > NQ vs.
> > >   > > > > > > > > QQQQ,... I know the leverage is very 
different, 
> > but
> > >   > > > besides
> > >   > > > > > that
> > >   > > > > > > > how
> > >   > > > > > > > > has your experience been?
> > >   > > > > > > > >
> > >   > > > > > > > > I have heard that once a trader moves from
> > >   > stocks/indexes
> > >   > > > to
> > >   > > > > > > > futures,
> > >   > > > > > > > > they never return to stocks...
> > >   > > > > > > > >
> > >   > > > > > > > >
> > >   > > > > > > > > --- In equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "v"
> > >   > <entinv@xxxx>
> > >   > > > wrote:
> > >   > > > > > > > > > From my experience future always track the 
> > index.
> > >   > For
> > >   > > > > > example
> > >   > > > > > > > > either you
> > >   > > > > > > > > > trade QQQQ or NQ
> > >   > > > > > > > > > the only real difference is the leverage.
> > >   > > > > > > > > >
> > >   > > > > > > > > > Comparing futures to equities if you mean
> > >   individual
> > >   > > > stocks,
> > >   > > > > > the
> > >   > > > > > > > future
> > >   > > > > > > > > > never goes bankrupt therefore it's
> > >   > > > > > > > > > safer to buy.  Futures, both commodities 
and
> > >   indexes
> > >   > > > appear
> > >   > > > > > to
> > >   > > > > > > > > better comply
> > >   > > > > > > > > > with the technical analysis
> > >   > > > > > > > > > studies in comparison with individual 
stocks.
> > >   Many
> > >   > > > > > individual
> > >   > > > > > > > > stocks are
> > >   > > > > > > > > > not liquid enough to trade and
> > >   > > > > > > > > > those most liquid would track corresponding
> > >   > > > industry/group
> > >   > > > > > > > indexes.
> > >   > > > > > > > > >
> > >   > > > > > > > > > Never heard about Track N TRade before.  
Looks
> > >   > > > interesting
> > >   > > > > > > > > >
> > >   > > > > > > > > >
> > >   > > > > > > > > >   -----Original Message-----
> > >   > > > > > > > > >   From: equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >   > > > > > > > > > [mailto:equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]On 
> > Behalf
> > >   Of
> > >   > > > > > metastkuser
> > >   > > > > > > > > >   Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2005 11:56 PM
> > >   > > > > > > > > >   To: equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >   > > > > > > > > >   Subject: Re: [EquisMetaStock Group] Using
> > >   > Metastock to
> > >   > > > > > trade
> > >   > > > > > > > FUTURES?
> > >   > > > > > > > > >
> > >   > > > > > > > > >
> > >   > > > > > > > > >   Vladimir,
> > >   > > > > > > > > >
> > >   > > > > > > > > >   "It doesn't provide continuous 
contracts, but
> > >   for
> > >   > ES
> > >   > > > and
> > >   > > > > > YM
> > >   > > > > > > > you can
> > >   > > > > > > > > >   use SPY/SPX and DIA/DJI if you need 
longer 
> > term
> > >   > > > picture."
> > >   > > > > > > > > >     -- yes, it occured to me that I can 
use SPX
> > >   > instead
> > >   > > > of
> > >   > > > > > ES,
> > >   > > > > > > > and DIA
> > >   > > > > > > > > >   instead of YM. But, does the future 
always 
> > track
> > >   > the
> > >   > > > > > index?
> > >   > > > > > > > Wouldn't
> > >   > > > > > > > > >   the future move much faster than the 
index if
> > >   the
> > >   > > > index
> > >   > > > > > made a
> > >   > > > > > > > sudden
> > >   > > > > > > > > >   large move?
> > >   > > > > > > > > >
> > >   > > > > > > > > >   How do you like trading futures compared 
to
> > >   > equities?
> > >   > > > > > > > > >
> > >   > > > > > > > > >   By the way, have you heard of Track N 
Trade 
> > for
> > >   > > > > > backtesting
> > >   > > > > > > > futures?
> > >   > > > > > > > > >
> > >   > > > > > > > > >   --- In 
equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "v"
> > >   > > > <entinv@xxxx>
> > >   > > > > > wrote:
> > >   > > > > > > > > >   > For EOD futures I'm using HSQuote from
> > >   > > > > > > > > >   >
> > >   > > > http://www.downloadjunction.com/product/software/4358/
> > >   > > > > > > > > >   > It doesn't provide continuous 
contracts, 
> > but
> > >   for
> > >   > ES
> > >   > > > and
> > >   > > > > > YM
> > >   > > > > > > > you
> > >   > > > > > > > > can use
> > >   > > > > > > > > >   > SPY/SPX and DIA/DJI if you
> > >   > > > > > > > > >   > need longer term picture.
> > >   > > > > > > > > >   > Intraday I'm using MetaServer RT for
> > >   > > > Interactivebrokers.
> > >   > > > > > > > > >   >
> > >   > > > > > > > > >   > I don't trade options on futures.
> > >   > > > > > > > > >   >
> > >   > > > > > > > > >   > Regards,
> > >   > > > > > > > > >   >     Vladimir
> > >   > > > > > > > > >   >
> > >   > > > > > > > > >   >   -----Original Message-----
> > >   > > > > > > > > >   >   From: equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >   > > > > > > > > >   > [mailto:equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On
> > >   Behalf
> > >   > Of
> > >   > > > > > > > metastkuser
> > >   > > > > > > > > >   >   Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2005 8:18 
PM
> > >   > > > > > > > > >   >   To: equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >   > > > > > > > > >   >   Subject: Re: [EquisMetaStock Group] 
Using
> > >   > > > Metastock to
> > >   > > > > > > > trade
> > >   > > > > > > > > FUTURES?
> > >   > > > > > > > > >   >
> > >   > > > > > > > > >   >
> > >   > > > > > > > > >   >   Vladimir,
> > >   > > > > > > > > >   >
> > >   > > > > > > > > >   >   If you don't mind answering a couple 
of
> > >   > questions:
> > >   > > > > > > > > >   >
> > >   > > > > > > > > >   >   1) I'm only interested in S&P 500 e-
mini
> > >   (ES)
> > >   > and
> > >   > > > mini-
> > >   > > > > > Dow
> > >   > > > > > > > > (YM). I use
> > >   > > > > > > > > >   >   Reuters for stock/indices end-of-day 
> > data. I
> > >   > don't
> > >   > > > > > want to
> > >   > > > > > > > pay
> > >   > > > > > > > > for the
> > >   > > > > > > > > >   >   omplete futures eod package. Do you 
know
> > >   where
> > >   > I
> > >   > > > can
> > >   > > > > > get
> > >   > > > > > > > eod
> > >   > > > > > > > > data for
> > >   > > > > > > > > >   >   just ES and YM?
> > >   > > > > > > > > >   >
> > >   > > > > > > > > >   >   2) Options on futures. I currently 
trade
> > >   > options
> > >   > > > credit
> > >   > > > > > > > > spreads on SPX
> > >   > > > > > > > > >   >   and would like to try credit spreads 
on 
> > ES
> > >   and
> > >   > YM.
> > >   > > > Do
> > >   > > > > > you
> > >   > > > > > > > trade
> > >   > > > > > > > > >   >   options on futures? Can Metastock 
support
> > >   this?
> > >   > > > > > > > > >   >
> > >   > > > > > > > > >   >
> > >   > > > > > > > > >   >   --- In 
> > equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "v"
> > >   > > > > > <entinv@xxxx>
> > >   > > > > > > > wrote:
> > >   > > > > > > > > >   >   > Yes, I do.
> > >   > > > > > > > > >   >   >
> > >   > > > > > > > > >   >   > Vladimir
> > >   > > > > > > > > >   >   >   -----Original Message-----
> > >   > > > > > > > > >   >   >   From: 
equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >   > > > > > > > > >   >   > 
[mailto:equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > On
> > >   > Behalf
> > >   > > > Of
> > >   > > > > > > > metastkuser
> > >   > > > > > > > > >   >   >   Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2005 
5:53 
> > PM
> > >   > > > > > > > > >   >   >   To: 
equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >   > > > > > > > > >   >   >   Subject: [EquisMetaStock Group] 
Using
> > >   > > > Metastock to
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> > >   > > > > > > > > FUTURES?
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> > >   > > > > > > > > >   >   >   Anyone using MS to trade futures?
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