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Re: [EquisMetaStock Group] Re: Metstock "cheats'? showing part of next day data?



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Jose,
 
I have never been an advocate of neural networks, 
for the stock markets.
 
But I do think, there would be a correlation, 
between frost in Brazil, and prices of Robusta Coffee.
 
DusantChief Architect<A 
href="">http://www.candlestrength.com/
 
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Sent: Friday, May 07, 2004 5:21 AM
Subject: [EquisMetaStock Group] Re: Metstock 
"cheats'? showing part of next day data?
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size=2>> > Dusant,> > Give a Neural Net weather and 
market data, and it will find strong > correlations and a winning method 
for the past only - the ultimate > curve-fit.> > There are 
many dynamic/complex positive/negative correlations in the > 
markets.  It takes understanding of the fundamental market underlying 
> forces before these tools can begin to be useful.> > The 
old adage has never been truer:> "Garbage in, garbage out"> 
> jose '-)> > > --- In <A 
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"Dusant" <<FONT face=Verdana 
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Jose,> > > > There are quite a few methods, using software 
to forecast. Neural > Networks is one such example which come to mind 
straightaway.> > > > They are good for forecasting where the 
cause and effect can be > directly correlated like weather 
patterns.> > > > So, if an enterprising person can do this 
kind of modelling, > >   a.. a neural network with weather 
patterns and > >   b.. agricultural commodity prices as 
inputs > > it could be a sell-out.> > > > 
MVHO> > > > Dusant> > Chief Architect> > 
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> > From: "Jose" <<FONT 
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size=2>...>> > To: <<A 
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size=2>>> > Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2004 5:33 AM> > 
Subject: [EquisMetaStock Group] Re: Metstock "cheats'? showing part > of 
next day data?> > > > > > > > > > 
Lionel, with all due respect, you will not find any successful > > 
> forecasting methods available for the markets, in any large public > 
> > library, academic library, or amazon.com> > > > 
> > In the ever-shifting sands of the markets, forecasting is a very 
> > > complex, dynamic subject.  For example, what may have 
been > relatively > > > accurate three years ago, may not 
work so well now.> > > > > > And as for academic 
papers... well, let's just say that the real > > > trading world 
and the view from the academic ivory towers are very > > > 
different indeed.> > > > > > jose '-)> > 
> > > > > > > --- In <A 
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"Lionel Issen" <<FONT face=Verdana 
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> > wrote:> > > > Jose:> > > >  
> > > > Forecasting is a discipline that is taught in many 
management > > > courses. It is> > > > used in 
industry, insurance companies, and the military.> > > >  
> > > > If you want more information just look up forecasting in 
a > larger > > > public> > > > library, an 
academic library, or amazon.com> > > >  > > > 
>  > > > > Lionel> > > >  > 
> > >  > > > > > > > >   
_____  > > > > > > > > From: Rick Carbert 
[mailto:rcarbert@xxxx] > > > > Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2004 5:31 
PM> > > > To: <A 
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size=2>> > > > Subject: RE: [EquisMetaStock Group] Re: Metstock 
"cheats'? > showing > > > part of> > > > 
next day data?> > > > > > > > > > > 
>    My reference is to using historical data.   The 
year I > mentioned > > > here is> > > > 
2003.> > > >  > > > > -----Original 
Message-----> > > > From: Jose [mailto:josesilva22@xxxx] 
> > > > Sent: May 3, 2004 11:06 PM> > > > To: 
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size=2>> > > > Subject: [EquisMetaStock Group] Re: Metstock 
"cheats'? showing > part > > > of next> > > 
> day data?> > > >  > > > > 
Rick,> > > > > > > > Please send me some of that 
medication you are on - I would like > to > > > > know 
what is happening the next day too!  ;)> > > > > 
> > > jose '-)> > > > > > > > > 
> > > --- In <A 
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"rickbc11" <<FONT face=Verdana 
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> > > wrote:> > > > > Hi:    I am 
practising as per Elder's book "Come into My > Trading > > > 
> > Room" and using historical EOD data.   However, I find that 
> when > > > > > looking at my charts, Metastock shows 
me what is happening the > > > next > > > > > 
day by starting to draw the next days oscillator line either > up or 
> > > > > down.> > > > 
>        For example, on my EOD for May 3, 
2003 using the > Stochastic > > > > > osc., I can see 
that the next day will probably be up somewhat > > > > > 
because the Stochastic indicator has alread started to angle > that 
> > > > > way.   (Put your crosshair over May 3rd 
and you will see what > I > > > > > mean).   
> > > > >        How can I 
set Metastock so that this doesn't happen?> > > > > 
Thanks-Rick> > > > > > > > > > > 
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