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kut2k2,

Just visited Jurik's site. Appears there have been a number of 
changes lately. What I remembered was primarily the JMA.

As to your comment "Very simple tools seldom work consistently in an 
ever-changing market", I disagree. Simple tools will work 
consistently and over a wide variety of market conditions if you know 
what you are looking at. You also mention "the whole point of 
adaptive indicators is to account at least partially for market 
changes". My question is this, how are you going to account for those 
changes? Typically AMA's use simple tools such as a RSI or a Stoch to 
adjust to market conditions. Some will tie to volatility or even 
volume but in the end we're still talking about simple tools as the 
basis for adapting.

As far as Kaufman's AMA, I agree.
As to your idea for an AMA, it certainly sounds like a good idea but 
again what do you plan to tie the changing market conditions to? I 
tend to look at market conditions in terms of timeframes... basically 
three. I also look at several indicators not just one. I want to know 
how prices are reacting to volume. Am I seeing a gain in volume and 
momentum? In my case a truly adaptive indicator would need to adjust 
to more than one condition. The best way that I know of to accomplish 
this is by use of a binary. Based on the binary score it becomes 
relatively simple to use an adaptable indicator. If my binary score 
is small then my adaptive is quick, if the binary score is high then 
my adaptive would be slow. I really don't need to worry about the 20 
variable limit. There are always ways to overcome Metastocks 
limitations.

As far as DLL's, they can indeed be used to auto adjust lookback 
periods. The ones that I have used will allow the indicator to use 
different lookback periods based on the varying parameters that I 
desire. This is not a canned AMA. I can use the DLL on any indicator.

Finally, you mentioned that you have an AMA that's better than 
anything in the public domain but you need to make it dynamic in 
lookback in order for it to reach maximum power. I don't understand. 
How can it be adaptive and not dynamic? Can you explain this?

Preston




--- In equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, kut2k2 <no_reply@xxxx> wrote:
> --- In equismetastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, pumrysh <no_reply@xxxx> 
wrote:
> 
> Very simple tools seldom work consistently in an ever-changing 
market. 
>  The whole point of adaptive indicators is to account at least 
> partially for market changes. That's their potential for enhancing 
a 
> trading system.
> 
> A lot of people completely misunderstand what the power of, say, an 
> adaptive moving average (AMA) is. If someone uses it as a crossover 
> basis for raw price, that is exactly the wrong usage. But if you 
> replace a fastEMA/slowEMA crossover system with an AMA/slowEMA 
> crossover system, you almost certainly will have a faster system 
with 
> no tangible increase in whipsaws, as a rule. It all depends on the 
> quality of the AMA (big hint: Kaufman's is great as a learning 
tool, 
> lousy as an actual trading tool).
> 
> What I am currently trying to achieve is a super-adaptive MA: an 
AMA 
> with a self-adjusting lookback period. That's why MS's lack of 
dynamic 
> time periods, or even a looping option, is such a major limitation.
> 
> I thought your "adaptive DLL" was a special tool for auto-adjusting 
> lookbacks but it sounds like it's just a canned AMA. I already have 
an 
> AMA that's better than anything in the public domain (I guess that 
> makes it "proprietary" <g>) but I need to make it dynamic in 
lookback 
> for it to reach maximum power. Thanks for your response.
> 
> Good trading,
> kut2k2
> 



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