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>OK, wait,
I need clarify something.

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> 

<span
>If we find
a system we like, then convert those Long and Short criteria&#8217;s into an Expert
Advisor, I&#8217;ve notice [when using Daily charts in real-time] that the buy/sell
arrows appear intraday as the criteria is met.  I&#8217;m trying to figure out how to test on that basis.

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> 

<span
>From
everyone&#8217;s responses, I&#8217;m guessing that the only options are to System Test at
either the closing price of the current bar or the opening of the next
bar.  Even though the actual signal
may have occurred half way through the trading day, and hypothetically say 5%
earlier.

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> 

<span
>TRUE?

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> 

<span
>[if that&#8217;s
the case, should I System Test on something like ½ Hour bars where I won&#8217;t get
NUMEROUS trades per day, but at least be able to catch an intraday move before
waiting for the next trading day.?]

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> 

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> 

<font size=2 color=black
face=Tahoma>-----Original
Message-----
From: rtstrade
[mailto:rtstrade@xxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2003 11:22
AM
To: Metastockusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [Metastockusers] Re:
System Tester

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> 

<font size=2 color=black
face="Courier New">With a delay of zero, that means a trade at the close.<font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New">
On any time frame, it is not practical to trade at the close, since 
the signal comes at the close.  So, the best you can do is trade at 
the next bar open.....or a delay of 1 bar.

That's why MS calls it "realistic" price.

Bob


--- In Metastockusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, <uhehs@xxxx> wrote:
> Hi Joe.
> 
> What about Daily bars?  Can a test on those be done with a Delay 
set to ZERO
> and then trade as I see a trigger?
> [I ask because lately I've missed some big moves on the Daly charts 
that
> didn't look as attractive the next day]
> 
> Sometimes even going to the 15 minute bars misses some of the 
move.  I
> suppose I can go to an even shorter time period, but that goes 
against my
> style.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joe J. [mailto:jojab@xxxx]
> Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2003 3:02 AM
> To: Metastockusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: [Metastockusers] System Tester
> 
> You mentioned that you trade on 15 minute bars.  Remember, your 
signal
> happens at the end of a bar.  Then you open the position on the 
open of the
> next bar.  So, yes, in a sense you can trade immediately...still 
that
> happens on the open of the bar after the signal not on the open of 
the bar
> that triggered the signal, which is why you set the delay to 1 when 
using
> the open.
> 
> Good Trading,
> 
> Joe J.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From:      uhehs@xxxx [mailto:uhehs@xxxx]
> Sent:      Sat 4/26/2003 7:08 PM
> To:      Metastockusers@xxxxxxxxxxxx com
> Cc:
> Subject:      [Metastockusers] System Tester
> 
> It was suggested that a true System Test is one were the Entry 
Delay is set
> to the number 1.
> Can't I set it to ZERO if I am charting in real-time;  So I can 
trade
> immediately as I get a trading signal?
> 
> Also, [when trading stocks], what is the preferred setting POINTS 
ONLY or
> placing in values [like equity of $20,000 with 100% Margin and no 
interest]?
> When I run a System Test using the dollar amount mentioned, it 
appears a bit
> unrealistic.  I figured that the program is reinvesting every 
dollar into
> the next trade. That's why I am thinking POINTS ONLY may be the way 
to go.
> 
> Anyone who can, please help.
> 
> 
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