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>Rakesh,
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>
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>Quick
question. [since you use ADX]
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>
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>Should
someone just NOT buy any stock unless the ADX is over say 20 or 30?
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>
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>-Sam
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>
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From: Rakesh Sahgal
[mailto:rakeshsahgal@xxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2003
10:43 AM
To: Metastockusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [Metastockusers]
EXPLORER
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ADX/PDI/DMI.
As to what I will take out and why - my answer simply
is I have tried all of these and never quite felt
comfortable with them. So no rational reasons really,
purely comfort level based on my ability to identify
price behavior working with my tools. Even here I go
wrong more often than not hence stop losses.
Rakesh
--- uhehs@xxxxxxxx wrote:
> Yeah, it seems like there's a lot in there now. I'm
> sure over the next few
> trading days, one or two of the filter criteria's
> might drop off.
>
> It's funny, but I'll probably be going back to
> trading moving average
> crossovers and gut instinct!!!!
>
> Maybe.
>
> What would you take out, why, etc?
>
> Here is the Long Exploration:
>
> C>=5 AND C<=15 AND
> (C>SAR(.02,.2)) AND
> (MACD()>Mov(MACD(),9,E)) AND
> (MACD()>0) AND
> ((PDI(14)-MDI(14))>5) AND
> (Mov(V,14,S)>10000) AND (V>10000) AND
> (Mov(C,7,E)>Mov(C,14,E)) AND
> ((ADX(14)>PDI(14)) OR (ADX(14)>Mov(ADX(14),14,E)))
> AND
> ((AroonUp(14)-AroonDown(14))>0 OR
>
((AroonUp(14)-AroonDown(14))>Mov((AroonUp(14)-AroonDown(14)),14,E))
> OR
> (Mov((AroonUp(14)-AroonDown(14)),14,E)>0)) AND
> OBV()>Mov(OBV(),14,E) AND
> RSI(14)>50 AND
> RSI(14)<70 AND
> ((RMI(C,14,14)>60) OR
> (RMI(C,14,14)>Mov(RMI(C,14,14),7,E))) AND
> ((PFE(C,14,7)>0) OR
> (PFE(C,14,7)>Mov(PFE(C,14,7),7,E)) OR
> (Mov(PFE(C,14,7),7,S)>0))
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rakesh Sahgal [mailto:rakeshsahgal@xxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 9:32 PM
> To: Metastockusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [Metastockusers] EXPLORER
>
> Uhehs
>
> It seems you are trying to create a super
> indicator/exploration by combining several tools. I
> wuould suggest with all humility that you focus on
> identifying max one or two indictors that you
> comprehend i.e. whose working is not
> incomprehensible
> to you.
>
> Having done so observe price behavior as it relates
> to
> changing indicator behavior as understanding price
> behavior is what will make you money . Setup your
> trading rules based on your observations. As a
> confirmatory measure go one level up in terms of
> time
> frames using the same indicator(s)i.e. if you get a
> buy/sell on a daily see how the weekly is shaping
> up.
>
> For validation it is absolutely mandatory for me
> that
> the validation bar should close above the high of
> the
> signal bar in case of a buy signal or below the low
> in case of a sell signal. This cuts down my
> probables
> list very signifcantly. Even though some may contend
> that such rigorousness is not really required I
> find
> it really does help in seperating the winners from
> the
> rest of the pack.
>
>
> Generalised pontifications I agree but this is what
> I
> have learned after losing a lot of money. So for me
> it
> has value.
>
> All the best in your endeavors.
>
>
> Rakesh
>
>
> --- "DAVID H. LINTON" <dhlinton@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
> > The simple answer is to just back up the three
> lower
> > highs by one day and add the requirement that the
> > last day is an up bar (C>O) and that C > prior
> days
> > C.
> > So the new scan would be as follows;
> > C>=5 AND C<=15 AND
> >
> > (Mov(V,14,S)>10000) AND (V>10000) AND
> >
> > (Mov(C,7,E)>Mov(C,14,E)) AND
> >
> > Ref(H,-1)<Ref(H,-2) AND Ref(H,-2)<Ref(H,-3) AND
> > Ref(H,-3)<Ref(H,-4) AND
> >
> > C>O AND C>Ref(C,-1)
> >
> > Yes, I saw your FVE reference. I say again, you
> are
> > trying to put too much in one scan. FVE is a
> > breakout tool. Your current scan is aimed at
> finding
> > buy points in a trend. Two totally different
> > animals. Save FVE for another day. My opinion.
> > David
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: uhehs@xxxxxxxx
> > To: Metastockusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Sent: April 15, 2003 6:38 PM
> > Subject: RE: [Metastockusers] EXPLORER
> >
> >
> > Dave,
> >
> >
> >
> > I came up with those three and TYC. I was going
> > to watch them over then next few days as well.
> >
> >
> >
> > The only thing with
the...... H<Ref(H,-1)
> AND
> > Ref(H,-1)<Ref(H,-2) AND Ref(H,-2)<Ref(H,-3)
> >
> > ....code is that now we wait for a swing to
> occur.
> > I would love to have the explorer produce stocks
> > already in the swing which is why I am filtering
> for
> > some type of momentum.
> >
> >
> >
> > I'm not counting your idea out! It's in a
> folder
> > with a few other suggestions from some members.
> >
> >
> >
> > Did you see my post Regarding the FVE Indicator?
> > I am drawing a COMPLETE BLANK on how to filter by
> > this. If you can help, I would love to get this
> > into the filter tonight a run it.
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks again.
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: DAVID H. LINTON
> > [mailto:dhlinton@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 6:02 PM
> > To: Metastockusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: Re: [Metastockusers] EXPLORER
> >
> >
> >
> > I ran the simplified scan I suggested on Apr14
> > closes and caught CAL, CYTC, and DAL, none of
> which
> > look like really good swing trade potential, yet.
> >
> > David
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> >
> >
> > From: DAVID H. LINTON
> >
> > To: Metastockusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> > Sent: April 15, 2003 3:35 PM
> >
> > Subject: Re: [Metastockusers] EXPLORER
> >
> >
> >
> > In words it says find stocks where current H is
> > less than prior H and prior H is less than the H 2
> > days ago and the H 2 days ago is less than the H 3
> > days ago.
> >
> > This is a key element in a swing traders
> approach
> > to finding longs pulling back in an uptrend.
> >
> > You buy when the rally is confirmed.
> >
> > David
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> >
> >
> > From: uhehs@xxxxxxxx
> >
> > To: Metastockusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> > Sent: April 15, 2003 2:58 PM
> >
> > Subject: RE: [Metastockusers] EXPLORER
> >
> >
> >
> > Does the last line mean, "Higher high for the
> last
> > three days"?
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: DAVID H. LINTON
> > [mailto:dhlinton@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 2:51 PM
> > To: Metastockusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: Re: [Metastockusers] EXPLORER
> >
> >
> >
> > Overall, I think this scan is too complex, for
> me
> > at least.
> >
> > However, if all elements are meaningful to you,
> > and each component necessary to accomplish a
> > specific need in your plan, then it is right for
> > you.
> >
> > I have picked the elements I would use, and
> added
> > one more at the end to try to catch the trend
> > changes earlier.
> >
> > C>=5 AND C<=15 AND
> >
> > (Mov(V,14,S)>10000) AND (V>10000) AND
> >
> > (Mov(C,7,E)>Mov(C,14,E)) AND
> >
> > H<Ref(H,-1) AND Ref(H,-1)<Ref(H,-2) AND
> > Ref(H,-2)<Ref(H,-3)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> >
> >
> > From: uhehs@xxxxxxxx
> >
> >
> >
> > To: Metastockusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> > Sent: April 15, 2003 9:06 AM
> >
> > Subject: RE: [Metastockusers] EXPLORER
> >
> >
> >
> > Dave, I noticed the same. I'm going to
> > continuously scan day to day and maybe new
> additions
> > will provide an earlier signal.
> >
> >
> >
> > Any ideas on your end?
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: DAVID H. LINTON
> > [mailto:dhlinton@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 8:56 AM
> > To: Metastockusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: Re: [Metastockusers] EXPLORER
> >
> >
> >
> > I ran your scan. I got essentially the same list
> > plus DG minus UIS. As you go through the charts,
> one
> > thing is very clear, the signal is late. You want
> a
> > scan that, for most of this list of stocks, would
> > have pointed them out on Mar 31st or Apr 1st.
> >
> > David
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> >
> >
> > From: uhehs@xxxxxxxx
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > To: Metastockusers@xxxxxxxxxxxx com
> >
> > Sent: April 14, 2003 11:20 PM
> >
> > Subject: [Metastockusers] EXPLORER
> >
> >
> >
> > OK, I'm calling it a night.
> >
> > Here's what I've come up with from your
> collective
> > inputs. Remember, this is only the Long
> > Exploration. I'll put together the Short
> tomorrow.
> >
> > Thank you to all who wrote me personally with
> > their input. Especially the Instant Messenger
> > comrade, we got a lot of brainstorming done.
> >
> >
> >
> > I came up with 14 stocks from my local data.
> I'll
> > watch them trade over the next few days and see
> > where improvements can be made.
> >
> > Here they are ADM, ALA, AMD, AOL, ASKJ, CE,
> GSPN,
> > NTAP, PCG, RSAS, TMPW, UIS, WMB, X.
> >
> >
> >
> > I'm really amazed how this came together just
> over
> > the last few hours. Keep offering suggestions.
> If
> > someone sees a pattern I may be overlooking, EMAIL
> > IT.
> >
> > The next step might be to develop a System to
> > test. That's were I'm going to draw a blank, so
> > help is needed.
> >
> >
> >
> > The Filter code follows:
> >
> >
> >
> > C>=5 AND C<=15 AND
> >
> >
> >
> > (C>SAR(.02,.2)) AND
> >
> >
> >
> > (MACD()>Mov(MACD(),9,E)) AND
> >
> > (MACD()>0) AND
> >
> >
> >
> > ((PDI(14)-MDI(14))>0) AND
> >
> >
> >
> > (Mov(V,14,S)>10000) AND (V>10000) AND
> >
> >
> >
> > (Mov(C,7,E)>Mov(C,14,E)) AND
> >
> >
> >
> > ((ADX(14)>PDI(14)) OR
> (ADX(14)>Mov(ADX(14),14,S)))
> > AND
> >
> >
> >
> > ((AroonUp(14)-AroonDown(14))>0 OR
> >
>
((AroonUp(14)-AroonDown(14))>Mov((AroonUp(14)-AroonDown(14)),14,S))
> > OR (Mov((AroonUp(14)-AroonDown(14)),14,S)>0)) AND
> >
> >
> >
> > OBV()>(Mov(OBV(),14,E)) AND
> >
> >
> >
> > RSI(14)>50 AND
> >
> >
> >
> > RSI(14)<70 AND
> >
> >
> >
> > ((RMI(C,14,14)>60) OR
> > (RMI(C,14,14)>Mov(RMI(C,14,14),7,E))) AND
> >
> >
> >
> > ((PFE(C,14,7)>0) OR
> > (PFE(C,14,7)>Mov(PFE(C,14,7),7,E)) OR
> >
> > (Mov(PFE(C,14,7),7,S)>0))
> >
> >
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