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Dan-
Thanks for your reply. I have followed
Steve's work-he used to live in Idaho and now I believe is in CO. Is this
a system propriety to you and he or do you share it?
Thanks
Bill
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Subject: Re: [Metastockusers] Full time
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Bill -
I was fortunate enough to hook up with Steve
Karnish (who is an incredible system researcher and person) about a year ago.
He shared his work with me and invited me to participate with him in
development. What we (he) developed is a very simple trend qualifier and a
variation of the CMO. I suppose you could call it the Karnish Momentum System.
Very simple, very effective.
Dan Edens
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Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 7:39
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Subject: Re: [Metastockusers] Full time
private trading... ... an unattainable dream?
Dan,
Did you develop the mechanical system yourself
or is it one 'off the shelf'? Would you share the name or the
system?
Thanks
Bill Beaman
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Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 8:34
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Subject: Re: [Metastockusers] Full
time private trading... ... an unattainable dream?
Nick-
I have been trading off and on for about 10
years, both privately and as a CTA for a time. I am definatley on the
short end of the net zero game as a whole, but my dream of being a full
time trader has been revitalized and is on the way to being realized in
the last year.
Who knows, I may blow up the account and have
to start over again at some point, but my experience in trading
tells me I've finally found what works for me. I think that is the
key - what works for each trader. I spent what feels like a lifetime with
everything in the trading world that didn't work for me.
I disagree that one must switch markets to be
consistently successful. If any market has the characteristics of orderly
accumulation and distribution and sufficient liquidity, then it can
be consistently traded.The markets on the U.S. futures and equity
exchanges offer too many issues and markets that exhibit these
characteristics for me to consider trading more than just the cream of the
crop. I don't think it is necessary to switch from domestic to foreign
markets and from equities to futures to be successful - there are so many
market personalities within each of those sectors, that the opportunities
are far more than I have the capacity to consider.
For me it would be ludicrous to ignore either
the long or short side of the market because it would mean giving up half
the potential profits. I use a 100% mechanical system developed with
Metastock that averages 76% winners. It's not perfect, but it backtested
an average gain of 240% annually over the last 2 years and is
perfoming as advertised in real trading.
For me the clouds have lifted and I can
finally see the dream of being a full time successful trader on the way to
being realized.
Dan Edens
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Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003
4:29 PM
Subject: [Metastockusers] Full time
private trading... ... an unattainable dream?
Hi group,
I’ve been reading some
articles about the hedge fund management industry and how most funds
sustained losses over the past 2 years especially since Sept 11 and the
US corporate scandal. This is coupled with a statistic I read that most
novice traders leave the trading arena after about 3 months. These
events really got me thinking… … is it really possible for one to be a
full time private trader?
I’ve been trading privately
for about 4 years not and like most of you I’ve had my ups and downs. I
am a firm believer that trading the market is a zero sum game. Someone
MUST lose in order for me to make a gain. However, the law of averages
dictates that it is just not possible for anyone to be winning all the
time. That being the case, is it actually possible for anyone to be a
full time private trader (i.e. trade using only his own money and make a
living out of it)?
The only possible way for
one to make money is possibly to be engaged in the right market at the
right time, e.g. to switch between the equities/futures/derivatives
markets or switch between the US/Europe/Asian markets. But we must also
remember that a private trader does not have the resources or the mental
capacity to handle so much information or research at a single time.
What option would be left then? To specialise and trade only in specific
markets and sit things out when everything is not going well? Do not
forget that a downturn in the market can last for years.
We can go into the nitty
gritty and say that we must set up stops to prevent losses, but I’m sure
most of you have been in the situation where you were stopped out too
early or you had given so much room before being stopped out that you
suffered a painful loss. Don’t get me wrong, I believe that trading and
investing is an art and there is no one mechanical way of getting the
right results. Ultimately, we are all looking for one thing… …PROFITS.
However, I have come under the increasing impression that the odds are
severely stacked against the private trader.
I look forward to hearing
from you guys on this matter.
Thanks.
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