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RE: [Metastockusers] Re: Optimization Values



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Have you tried tech 
support? The numbers you enter should not change, calculated values may be 
almost anything depending on the precision and the 
algorithm.
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Back in the 60's a 
computer engineer at the National Bureau of Standards ran a test on several 
computers using a set of different algorithms. It was solving 3 equations 
in 3 unknowns, and x=y=z=1. I forget the details but some machines 
gave  poor results, and some algorithms were consistently better than 
others.
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The problems you 
mention sound like the Microsoft program that the Dept of Energy was using to 
monitor fissile materials.
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<FONT face=Arial 
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size=2>-----Original Message-----From: rtstrade 
[mailto:rtstrade@xxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 4:01 
PMTo: Metastockusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxSubject: 
[Metastockusers] Re: Optimization ValuesThanks for the 
thoughts Lionel.I am seeing this in the min, max, step values for the 
optimization.Same place I have used the numbers before in prior versions, 
but now I am getting a string instead of the value I enter.  No 
calculations are occurring...I should be getting the same value that I 
enter, but am not.Interesting.Bob--- In 
Metastockusers@xxxx, "Lionel Issen" <lissen@xxxx> wrote:> If you 
enter a number, it will be as you entered it.  If you calculate 
a> number then you will get this long string.>  > 
Lionel>  >  > > -----Original 
Message-----> From: rtstrade [mailto:rtstrade@xxxx] > Sent: 
Wednesday, October 30, 2002 2:32 PM> To: Metastockusers@xxxx> 
Subject: [Metastockusers] Re: Optimization Values> > > 
Humm,  I have never seen this happen in any prior version.  When I 
> entered 0.40 it came out 0.40 not 0.40000001.> Oh, well, it does 
not matter, just looked weird.> Thanks!> Bob> > 
> > --- In Metastockusers@xxxx, "Lionel Issen" <lissen@xxxx> 
wrote:> > Yes. This is true for all prior versions.> >  
> > The round off string of X.999999999 or Y.00000001 can be 
eliminated > by> > using a round off correction. This is 
done by adding a 5 to the last> > digit in the string and rounding 
to one digit less. Most hand> > calculators have it as do most 
spreadsheet programs.> >  > > Single precision, 16 bit, 
(2**16) gives about 4 digit precision. To > get> > decent 
precision we need 32 bit precision.> >  > > About a 
year or two ago Guy Tann, a very good trader, tried to use> > 
Metastock Pro. He is the kind of person that checks and double > 
checks.> > He found that Metastock was giving him incorrect answers. 
He quickly> > determined that the reason was the single precision 
factor.  When he> > asked Equis about this they gave a very 
stupid excuse. They said > that> > double precision would use 
up too much memory and they didn't want > to> > impose this 
on their users. Now this may have been valid in the > days of> 
> the 286 and the 386, but not today with memory and hard drives > 
being so> > cheap.> >  > > Guy dropped 
Metastock and stopped posting to the Listserver.> >  > 
> Hope this clarifies things.> >  > > Lionel> 
>  > >  > > > > -----Original 
Message-----> > From: rtstrade [mailto:rtstrade@xxxx] > > 
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 1:57 PM> > To: 
Metastockusers@xxxx> > Subject: [Metastockusers] Re: Optimization 
Values> > > > > > I never experienced this in 
prior versions?> > Are you seeing the same two digit value 
extrapolated into 7 digits > > like I am?> > Very 
weird.> > Bob> > > > > > > > 
--- In Metastockusers@xxxx, "Lionel Issen" <lissen@xxxx> wrote:> 
> > Round off error, usually nothing o worry about.> > 
>  > > > Metastock only has single precision arithmetic, 
which is very > > stupid.> > >  > > > 
Lionel> > >  > > >  > > > 
> > > -----Original Message-----> > > From: rtstrade 
[mailto:rtstrade@xxxx] > > > Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 
12:41 PM> > > To: Metastockusers@xxxx> > > Subject: 
[Metastockusers] Optimization Values> > > > > > 
> > > Maybe my program is messed up with the stop problem, 
etc.  But > when > > I > > > place a decimal 
value in the optimization, say 0.40 to 0.60, with > a > > 
> step of 0.01, I get 0.40000001 to 0.60000002, step is > 
0.0099999998?> > > > > > Whatzup??> > > 
> > > Anyone else see this?> > > > > > 
Bob> > > > > > > > > > > > 
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