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My thought is that in my experience 4 ATRs very rarely
occur. If you run Wilders "Swing System" for instance with 4 ATRs you'll likely
to see often 90% losing trades, which means fading it is 90% accurate. Don't get
too carried away there though, cause when its right, its right for a lot, and
drawdown in such a hypothetical system would also be be substantial intra
trade... but it is nonetheless useful information to know.
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To: <A
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Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2001 6:05
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Subject: Re: Profit Stops
In a message dated
3/17/01 9:13:57 AM Pacific Standard Time, <A
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color=#000000 face=Arial lang=0 size=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF">I like to move
my stops closer as the profits get larger. This allows me to have
fairly wide stops at the beginning of a trade (the wide stops at the
beginning of a trade give a higher winning percentage) and then I try to
maximize the size of my winning trades by moving the trailing stops closer
so I give back less of the open profit. This strategy is for trend
following type trades. For counter-trend trades I just use
a profit target and when I see the profit I take it. I have found
that counter trend trades generally tend to produce profits in the
neighborhood of 1.5 to 2.0 ATRs. For trend-following trades I try to
tighten up my stops after 4 ATRs of profit and then hope for more. I'm
leaving for New Zealand this weekend to do a TraderCamp in Vanuatu with
Dr. Elder so I probably won't be able to answer any e-mail messages while
I am out of the country. I'll be back in the office in April.
Chuck LeBeau www.traderclub.com
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