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Alain:
I agree, the news group setup is poor. I use WINVN for newsgroups, it is
freeware (no tech support)
Lionel Issen
lissen@xxxxxxxxx
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jossart Alain" <Alain.Jossart@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2000 12:09 PM
Subject: Re: Advanced Get versus MetaStock


Lionel,

A last comment on this OOT subject.

You are correct about e-mail folders... but OE is client software to read
both e-mails and Usenet articles. The input folder organization looks
something like :

-- Input folders
    -- E-mail
        -- POP Server #1 input folder
        -- ...
        -- ...
        -- POP Server #n input folder
    -- Usenet
        -- News Server #1 input folder
                -- Newsgroup #1.1 (eg be.providers)
                -- ...
                -- ...
                -- Newsgroup #1.k (eg misc.invest.technical)
        -- ...
        -- ...
        -- News Server #n input folder

You can perform the manipulations describeb below on any E-mail input folder
:delete individual, copy, move, etc. You CANNOT on newsgroup input folders :
only copy is available.

- How to read an e-mail input folder ? - Read, delete, read, copy, move,
read, delete.... break... read, delete, read, copy, etc. ... until empty
folder
- How to read a newsgroup input folder ? - Read, copy, read, copy, mark
where you are .... break... read, copy, read, copy... when all articles
scanned, right click on folder name, properties, local file, suppress all
headers & bodies

So, what I'm saying is that the commands to process an input folder are
totally different between e-mail and Usenet. There is absolutely no reason
for such an incoherent user interface. None.

Even worse. Usenet articles are usually shown in threads by client software.
Threads can be extended (+) or collapsed (-). OE does that fine in newsgroup
input folders... but the thread extend/collapse feature is not available for
the custom folders where newsgroup threads have eventually been archived.

Summary
- Incoherent command set between e-mail and Usenet articles
- Incoherent thread views between Usenet articles in input folders and the
same in custom (archive) folders.

Alain.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Lionel Issen" <lissen@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2000 12:59 PM
Subject: Re: Advanced Get versus MetaStock


> I'm not sure that I completely understand your posting; however any
> article(s) can be deleted from any folder. certain system folders cannot
be
> deleted, like inbox.
>
> In OE if you want to delete articles in any folder do the following:
> 1. open the folder
> 2. highlight the item(s) that you want to delete
> 3. either press the delete key or click on the delete button on the tool
> bar.
> 4. the item(s) is moved to the "deleted items" folder where it can be
> completely deleted from your hard drive.
>
> OE is a bit simple minded but it is adequate and the price is right.
> Lionel Issen
> lissen@xxxxxxxxx
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jossart Alain" <Alain.Jossart@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2000 4:25 AM
> Subject: Re: Advanced Get versus MetaStock
>
>
>
> OE does use separate files... but this software is definitely dumb at
> managing big archives. For whatever reason, the designer decided it is
> useful to scan a folder completely each time the user wants to have a look
> at the last window of messages. Typical "brutal force". Oh yes, the user
can
> still get around this bug by folders multiplication.
>
> OE is the same dumb software for Usenet news readings. Same systematic
idiot
> folder scan and no way to delete articles in the input folders. This is
> really brilliant... now, you must use it since it is modern and
> state-of-the-art technology. Always listen to the crowd.
>
> " Slow... slowest ? ... slower always can " (c) MS
>
> Alain.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Daniel Martinez" <DanM@xxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Monday, October 23, 2000 9:14 PM
> Subject: Re: Advanced Get versus MetaStock
>
>
> > A.J.:
> > my Netscape v4.75 has 150 MB in emails.  I understand OE only uses one
(1)
> file for ALL its
> > email.  I decided against using OE for now.  Also, I don't want to take
> the time to migrate
> > to OE.  I want to spend all my spare time reviewing TA and running
either
> QP v2.x or
> > MetaStock scans.
> >
> > Many other users on this ListServ don't want to get HTML from their
> ListServ's because it
> > bloats their email files and taxes their email 'Net connection.
> >
> > Daniel.
> >
> >
> > "A.J. Maas" wrote:
> >
> > > Head+Shoulders(H,S)
> > > Height(H)
> > > Break(B)
> > > Target(T)
> > > NeckLine(NL)
> > > VeryShortTerm(VST) - next coming weeks/month
> > > ShortTerm(ST) - next few months
> > > InterMediateTerm(IMT) - next 6 months, < a year
> > > LT(LongTerm) - > year
> > > VLT(VeryLongTerm) - > 2-5 years
> > > â,¬uro(â,¬), noticed that your mailer also cannot handle the
â,¬URO-font
> > > SoftWare(SW)
> > > OutlookExpress(OE)
> > > OperatingSystem(OS)
> > > MicroSoft(MS)
> > > MetaStocK(MSK)
> > > DownLoader(DL)
> > >
> > > NSv6.x no can do HTML? (too bad!).
> > > OE is included in your OS (that is, if your not pionering with other
> user
> > > unfriendly or dreamer's sw).
> > > If you run an old OS, you can download OE for free from the MS Update
> Site.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Ton Maas
> > > ms-irb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Dismiss the ".nospam" bit (including the dot) when replying.
> > > Homepage  http://home.planet.nl/~anthmaas
> > >
> > > ----- Oorspronkelijk bericht -----
> > > Van: "Daniel Martinez"
> > > Aan: <metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Verzonden: zondag 22 oktober 2000 23:02
> > > Onderwerp: Re: Advanced Get versus MetaStock
> > >
> > > A.J.:
> > > I don't know what your T, IMT, ST, H, B initials mean.  I assume these
> mean:
> > > H:  height
> > > B:  bottom
> > > T:  Target
> > > the rest I don't know.
> > >
> > > Netscape v4.75 cannot recreate the HTML created by Microsoft's Outlook
> Express
> > > 5.50.4133.2400.  I can read your emails, but when I click "REPLY", all
I
> get is dozens of
> > > little empty boxes.
> > >
> > > Daniel.
> > >
> > > "A.J. Maas" wrote:
> > > --------snip-----------
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
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