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  • Subject: Re: Fast Chandelier Exit
  • From: "A.J. Maas" <anthmaas@xxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2000 16:14:26 -0700
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<DIV><FONT size=2>Ndays:=<FONT size=2>If(Cum(1) &lt; 
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<DIV><FONT size=2>Ndays2:=If(Ndays<FONT size=2>&gt;0,Ndays,<FONT 
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<DIV><FONT size=2>Ndays2</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT><FONT size=2></FONT><BR>Regards,<BR>Ton Maas<BR><A 
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  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
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  style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> 
  <A title=bhanjar@xxxxxxxxxxxxx href="mailto:bhanjar@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>Dr. 
  R.BHANJA</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  href="mailto:metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> zondag 16 april 2000 19:25</DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Fast Chandelier Exit</DIV>
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  <DIV><FONT size=2>On February,18,2000 there are some messages regarding using 
  of vPREV function for Fast Chandelier Exit. I was trying to test it in some of 
  programs. But I could not. Can any body give the solution. I took the example 
  in this way</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>vPrev:=PREV;<BR>Ndays:=If(Cum(1) &lt; 
  50,Cum(1),vPrev);<BR>Ndays</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>While displaying Ndays it gives 0 after 49 
  but&nbsp; I am interested to get Ndays as 49 continuously after 49th day. But 
  if I use </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>Ndays:=If(Cum(1) &lt; 
  50,Cum(1),PREV);</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>Ndays</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>Then I get correct answer. Can any body give 
  an example of how to use this pwerful vPREV function?</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>BHANJA</FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
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Subject: Re: Mother of all Highs
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 01:51:30 +0200
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<P><FONT size=2>Typo, Cherryl </FONT><FONT size=2>forgot something.</FONT><FONT 
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<P>Regards,<BR>Ton Maas<BR><A 
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  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
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  style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> 
  A.J. Maas </DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  href="mailto:metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>Metastock-List</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> zondag 16 april 2000 17:47</DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Mother of all Highs</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>a) Trading 
  the&nbsp;Triangles(wedges,diamonds,sym,ascending,descending) are&nbsp;the most 
  difficult. Price will move</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;in between borders not knowing what 
  direction to take. Even breakouts aren't always giving clear</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;directions. But usualy after a 
  solid(=retested) break- / fallout&nbsp;the direction is shown. Too, most of 
  the gain</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;has than&nbsp;</FONT><FONT size=2>also 
  disappeared, but in Trending markets these solid break- / fallouts will most 
  of the time also</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;signal&nbsp;</FONT><FONT size=2>a 
  continuation in the Trend's previous&nbsp;main direction. Thus succesfull 
  retests are usualy followed by</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;quite lengthy&nbsp;</FONT><FONT 
  size=2>months lasting moves.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;The smaller ones are slightly better 
  to trade than the larger.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>b) Markets as they are now developping&nbsp;(since they are 
  topping), can/should be played via "writing&nbsp;options",</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;eg take advantage from&nbsp;the 
  Markets going sideways(or down) for the next couple of years.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;Rising&nbsp;Intrest (Yield) Rates, will 
  pull at one stage the trigger for downfalls.Since they have succesfully 
  set</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; a market bottom, and broken out of their 
  long years downtrends, a succesfull correction of their outbreaks</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; can be expected, and that&nbsp;is also 
  what is taking place right now. Whether it be the $ Yields or € 
  Yields,&nbsp;the</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; main trend for the Yields are UP. The 
  10yrs Yield will pick up its UpTrend continuation when 
outbreaking</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;the in&nbsp;</FONT><FONT size=2>this 
  current correction&nbsp;formed </FONT><FONT size=2>Triangle, 
with:</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;-the U$10Yld&nbsp;for the moment 
  Descending 6.82 - 5.81(break was @5.35)&nbsp;with now up 
  resistance&nbsp;</FONT><FONT size=2>around 6.10,</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; of which the RSI has now(0410) 
  signaled "the correction's bottom"(eg with a 2nd consequtive higher 
  Low).</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; -the E€10Yld&nbsp;for the moment 
  Descending 5.77 - 5.24(break was&nbsp;@4.17)&nbsp;with now up 
  resistance&nbsp;<FONT size=2>around 5.50,</FONT></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;of which the RSI has now(0320) 
  signaled "the correction's bottom"(eg with a 2nd consequtive higher Low) 
  and</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;for 
  extra,&nbsp;has&nbsp;</FONT><FONT size=2>also&nbsp;</FONT><FONT 
  size=2>developed a Diamond (H=5.77, L=5.09).</DIV></FONT>
  <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>c) A P&amp;F example of 2 charts(1=Price,1=P&amp;F) not for 
  time factor coinciding(parallel) is seen on page 234 in</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;the TA from A to Z (S.Achellis) 
  book. From its explanation on p.235, it should be prossible to create a 
  P&amp;F</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; indicator.&nbsp;However, the new MSK v7.x 
  version should now also be capable to display both the P&amp;F+Price 
  </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;relative&nbsp;</FONT><FONT 
  size=2>in&nbsp;</FONT><FONT size=2>one(1) single Chart. The only obsticale is 
  then the time "column"&nbsp;(eg X or&nbsp;0) for factor, but</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;according to the 7.xEOD - 
  Enhancements&nbsp;</FONT><FONT size=2>site <A 
  href="http://www.equis.com/metastock/windows95nt/70new.html";>http://www.equis.com/metastock/windows95nt/70new.html</A></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;"<FONT face="Times New Roman" 
  size=4>Insert a Security into an open price plot of a different security<FONT 
  face=Arial size=2>"</DIV></FONT></FONT></FONT>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</FONT><FONT size=2>this than should 
  also work for P&amp;F (which is ONLY a Price plot's Style, 
  eg&nbsp;"Properties|Color/Style|Price Plot"</DIV></FONT>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;and change&nbsp;from Bars to 
  P&amp;F). And&nbsp;in combination with&nbsp;the other new feature</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; "<FONT face="Times New Roman" 
  size=4>Combine different intervaled securities in one chart.<FONT face=Arial 
  size=2>"</FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;this should give the proper results 
  and&nbsp;quite some nice Charts (+ effects).</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</FONT><FONT 
  size=2>This&nbsp;feature, over the years, was requested by many List members, 
  and voila&nbsp;</FONT><FONT size=2>Equis serves its customers</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;with it right,&nbsp;</FONT><FONT 
  size=2>on the spot !!. It was long waiting for the 7.xEOD, but well worth 
  it.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV></FONT><FONT size=2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Plotting 2 indicators atop is a 
  standard program feature, eg SMAshort and SMAlong, but plotting a 
  defined</DIV></DIV></FONT>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; build-in or custom indicator atop of the 
  Base Security(Price) can be ugly, but myself over the years have</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;found that "RSI</FONT>&nbsp;<FONT 
  size=2>plotted on/over&nbsp;the Price" is extremely powerfull when working 
  with all of the RSI features</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; (divergence, hard&nbsp;</FONT><FONT 
  size=2>P</FONT><FONT size=2>rice fixing and hard Action's lengths&nbsp;fixing 
  etc.).</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>Why not have a go at</FONT><FONT size=2><FONT size=2> 
  the&nbsp;<FONT size=4>Target Price Indicator - Benjamin Cotton <FONT 
  size=2>?</FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>(since that I, on my turn, will have to digest the MTF 
  stuff, which sounds good)</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>Regards,<BR>Ton Maas<BR><A 
  href="mailto:ms-irb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>ms-irb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx</A><BR>Dismiss 
  the ".nospam" bit (including the dot) when replying.<BR>Homepage&nbsp; <A 
  href="http://home.planet.nl/~anthmaas";>http://home.planet.nl/~anthmaas</A></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=4>Target Price Indicator - Benjamin 
  Cotton </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2><FONT face="Times New Roman"></FONT></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2><FONT face="Times New Roman">In the November 1999 issue of 
  S<FONT size=1>TOCKS </FONT>&amp; C<FONT 
  size=1>OMMODITIES</FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2><A 
  href="http://www.traders.com/Documentation/FEEDbk_docs/Archive/1199/Abstracts_new/Cotton/Cotton.html";>http://www.traders.com/Documentation/FEEDbk_docs/Archive/1199/Abstracts_new/Cotton/Cotton.html</A></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2><FONT face="Times New Roman">Benjamin Cotton introduced the 
  target price indicator in "Triggering Your Trading 
Signal."</FONT></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2><FONT face="Times New Roman"></FONT></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=2>In the February 
  2000&nbsp;issue&nbsp;the formula for the Target Price indicator was 
  printed</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2><A 
  href="http://www.traders.com/Documentation/FEEDbk_docs/Archive/022000/TradersTips/TradersTips.html#meta";>http://www.traders.com/Documentation/FEEDbk_docs/Archive/022000/TradersTips/TradersTips.html#meta</A></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2><FONT face="Times New Roman"><FONT face=Arial></FONT><A 
  href="http://S%26c0002/Target%20Price%20Indicator%20-%20Benjamin%20Cotton/Traders%20Tips%20-%20February%202000.htm#meta";>&nbsp;</DIV></A></FONT></FONT>
  <DIV><FONT size=2><FONT face="Times New Roman">To recreate this indicator 
  </FONT></FONT><FONT size=2><FONT face="Times New Roman">in MetaStock 6.52 or 
  higher:</FONT></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2><FONT 
  face="Times New Roman">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
  -</FONT></FONT><FONT size=2><FONT face="Times New Roman">select "Indicator 
  builder" from the Tools menu</FONT></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2><FONT 
  face="Times New Roman">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
  -click New</FONT></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2><FONT 
  face="Times New Roman">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
  -enter the following formula:</FONT></FONT><FONT size=2><FONT 
  face="Times New Roman">&nbsp;</DIV></FONT>
  <P><FONT face="Times New Roman">For the BogiePX enter:</FONT></P>
  <P>x:=Input("length of 1st moving average",2,200,5);<BR>y:=Input("length of 
  2nd moving average",2,200,10);<BR><BR>((y* Sum(C,x-1))-(x*Sum(C,y-1)))/ 
  (x-y)</P>
  <P><FONT face="Times New Roman">For the percent change, enter the following 
  formula:</FONT></P>
  <P>x:=Input("length of 1st moving average",2,200,5);<BR>y:=Input("length of 
  2nd moving average",2,200,10);<BR>((((y* 
  (Sum(C,x-1))-(x*Sum(C,y-1)))/(x-y))/Close)-1)*100</P>
  <P><FONT face="Times New Roman">-- Cheryl Elton, Equis International&nbsp; -- 
  </FONT><FONT face="Times New Roman"><A 
  href="http://www.equis.com";>http://www.equis.com</A></FONT></P>
  <P><FONT face="Times New Roman">&nbsp;</P></FONT></FONT>
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    <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
    <DIV 
    style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> 
    Adam Hefner </DIV>
    <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
    href="mailto:metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</A> </DIV>
    <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> zondag 16 april 2000 5:33</DIV>
    <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Mother of all Highs</DIV>
    <DIV><BR></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2>Ton,</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2>&nbsp;Thanks for taking the time to explain how you 
    approach your trading decisions.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2>You said that you were "...an overall average Technical 
    Trader", well&nbsp;I consider myself</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2>a student with much to learn!&nbsp; It's funny that you 
    bring up&nbsp;my Point &amp; Figure history,</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2>I believe that it (P&amp;F) is a valid trend following 
    method, but I had given the development</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2>of the Point &amp; Figure Indicator&nbsp;a rest 
    after&nbsp;struggling with MetaStock's language&nbsp;</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2>barriers (It should now be possible using "Power Basic" or 
    "C++" and the developers kit).</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2>I was trying to create an indicator that would plot on a 
    bar chart were the "x"'s and "o"'s </FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2>of&nbsp; a P&amp;F chart would be. If this can accurately 
    be done using different point and reversal </FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2>value's, then this indicator could be used in the system 
    tester for analysis. After this </FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2>struggle, I became interested in Robert Krausz's Stuff... 
    some of it didn't seem to work,</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2>but I really liked the Multiple time frames and having a 
    specific definition for trends.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2>&nbsp;But as you mentioned (and what took me months to 
    learn) "You&nbsp;do the Analysis first",</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2>I spent all my time doing analysis, but couldn't find a 
    good way to pull the trigger (trade).</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2>The Pitchforks, were then added to the Krausz charts...but 
    that just helped my analyzing,</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2>still couldn't trade.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2>&nbsp; So ... were am I now? Still a student of this 
    madness, but I am learning how to pull the trigger.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2>Charles Drummonds "Point &amp; Line" is a Multiple Time 
    Frame ( I like this ) method that allows</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2>a person to define the market condition (Trending, 
    Congestion, Reversal). Once the market</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2>condition is defined, then you use&nbsp;trading rules 
    for&nbsp;that specific condition. It also defines&nbsp;</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2>specific&nbsp;support/resistance levels that can act as 
    buy/sell&nbsp;points (this can help me pull the</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2>trigger or get out). I am still studying all of this, but 
    have most of the code in MetaStock now.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2>When I get my nerve up, I'll post some charts (should be 
    good for a few&nbsp;chuckles).</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2>If you wish to see how an expert uses this method go to 
    :</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2><A 
    href="http://www.patrickshaughnessy.com/";>http://www.patrickshaughnessy.com/</A></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2>(Please...this is not spam) He has&nbsp;a daily market 
    review that he allows non-subscribers to </FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2>view a day late.... in this review he always inserts a few 
    charts and you can view how he</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2>uses Drummond's stuff.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2>&nbsp;Ever seeking....</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT 
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<DIV><FONT size=2>In a system testing it is said that more the events 
(statistics) the better would be the result. This also tells that a system 
having lesser number of events is doubtful? If you have data of a longer period 
than getting a large number of statistics is not a problem but if you have a 
data of lesser number of periods than what to do? Does it mean, that one cannot 
apply the system to a stock which has a less trading history (say 2-4 years).But 
a question arises how many events a system should produce to draw a reasonable 
conclusion? </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>If a system looks into one single pattern it may produce 
lesser events. So can we say that the pattern is doubtful because of lesser 
statistics? What is the solution?</FONT></DIV>
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Subject: Re: Flip it good/flippant better.
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Ton,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I saw a version of the Wiz on Saturday and the 
wizard reminded me of you.&nbsp; Omnipotent, passing judgement, and dispensing 
snide remarks from behind the protection of a thin veil (email).&nbsp; I once 
wrote you, in a private email, "Ton is God".&nbsp; An unmerciful God you turned 
out to be!&nbsp; What "trips your trigger" most about my shameless commercial 
pursuits?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Are you upset about:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>A.&nbsp; Equis International's 60 second 
commercial, with yours truly, that's been running on CNBC for the last 
month?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>B.&nbsp; The quarter page ads, the last couple of 
months, that have been running in Investors Business Daily talking about my 
brokerage experience and how MetaStock has benefited me?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>C.&nbsp; The partnership and licensing agreement I 
signed with Prophet Finance.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>D.&nbsp; The fact that I'm one of the featured 
technicians&nbsp;at ProFarmer's new website (a 137 year old organization). 
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>E.&nbsp; My new partnership with the Spokane folks 
that manage two billion dollars (I'm sure that's now a bit less after last 
week).</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>F.&nbsp; Becoming only one of 30 Registered 
Investment Advisors in the state of Idaho.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>G.&nbsp; The fact that I sell MetaStock Pro for two 
hundred bucks cheaper than Equis.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>H.&nbsp; My bookstore.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I.&nbsp;&nbsp; My negotiations with national 
"business accelerator" firms.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>J.&nbsp;&nbsp; The book I'm currently writing with 
my partner.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>K.&nbsp; The MetaStock add-on program that is 
almost developed.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>L.&nbsp; The Visual Basic program that will 
eliminate the need for EOD.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>M.&nbsp; The fifty folks who I trade 
for.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>In the late '70's I recall the phone calls I used 
to have with Perry Kaufman when I was working for Paine Webber and then Thomson 
McKinnon.&nbsp; He was writing his first two books and was thirsty for any 
approaches he could find.&nbsp; I was tinkering with moving average oscillators, 
and the subject fascinated him.&nbsp; I think he stole some ideas from me, but 
since that time, I've STOLEN his PJ5 moving average.&nbsp; </FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>In the winter of 1981, I had an opportunity to 
spend a week with Welles Wilder in Houston.&nbsp; He was taping an instructional 
technical video, and I watched with interest for a week.&nbsp; When the cameras 
were off, I fired all the questions I could conjure about the RSI.&nbsp; I read 
his book soon after it came out and loved the way the RSI worked.&nbsp; Of 
course, the 14 period RSI was not my cup of tea.&nbsp; To anyone&nbsp;who would 
listen, I suggested a 9 period RSI with 20 and 80 as trigger levels.&nbsp; Did I 
STEAL the RSI from Welles...you bet your European ass I did.&nbsp; </FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Over the years I've STOLEN from anyone who will let 
me.&nbsp; I've always liked to give credit to whoever I PICKPOCKET.&nbsp; That's 
why I call it the CCT Bollinger Band Histogram.&nbsp; The Histogram is a private 
joke, and I have the feeling that you probably lack a sense of humor, so I'll 
keep it private.&nbsp; The FibCMO is not masking anything.&nbsp; I SWIPED 
Tuschar's formula, improved on it, implemented it into a system, back-tested it, 
and now trade it profitably.&nbsp; <FONT face=Arial size=2>Since I am confessing 
all my sins, I have also STOLEN from Krausze, Blau, Nisson, and many 
others.&nbsp; Mothers hide your children, the indicator stealer is coming to 
town.&nbsp; </FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I don't recall begging (and certainly not 
"bagging").&nbsp; I have politely asked for formula help.&nbsp; Thanks to Adam, 
Philip, Don, Matthew, Walter, and&nbsp;many others that have helped me string 
together the logic that I weave into my mechanical approaches.&nbsp; Without 
your help, I couldn't be blatantly screwing the public.&nbsp; I've always tried 
to give more than I take.&nbsp; Obviously, you don't agree.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I think maybe the "Fibonacci thing" sent you into 
an irreversible disliking for my plagiaristic ways.&nbsp; By the way Mr. Decimal 
Point, just for the record, here's a plagiarized passage about how Fibonacci 
(don't you think he was cute?) introduced&nbsp;the Hindu-Arabic place-valued 
decimal system to Europe:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>
<P><I>"Liber abbaci</I>, published in 1202 after Fibonacci's return to Italy, 
was dedicated to Scotus. The book was based on the arithmetic and algebra that 
Fibonacci had accumulated during his travels. The book, which went on to be 
widely copied and imitated, introduced the Hindu-Arabic place-valued decimal 
system and the use of Arabic numerals into Europe. Indeed, although mainly a 
book about the use of Arab numerals, which became known as algorism, 
simultaneous linear equations are also studied in this work". </P></FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>By the way Ton,&nbsp; the spring rains have come to 
Cedar Creek and I suggest you move accusatory butt to higher ground.&nbsp; If 
you continue to swill in the muck, near the river bottom, you're going to be "up 
the creek without a paddle".&nbsp; I once said that "Ton was God".&nbsp; Today, 
I can still say it, but I must add:&nbsp;"Ton is God, Godzilla".</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Take care,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Steve Karnish<BR>Cedar Creek Trading<BR><A 
href="http://www.cedarcreektrading.com";>http://www.cedarcreektrading.com</A></FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
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  <DIV 
  style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> 
  A.J. Maas 
  </DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A 
  href="mailto:metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx"; 
  title=metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>Metastock-List</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, April 15, 2000 5:20 
  AM</DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Flip it good.</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>Must be Flipped!! Coco Loco!!.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>I'm disapointed in you.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>Whereas over the past 2 years you have been bagging the List 
  on your knees </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>to provide you with all sorts of formulas and also begged 
  and pleaed to the List</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>down on </FONT><FONT size=2>your knees&nbsp;to help you with 
  the reading of and interpreting of and</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>providing of all sorts of&nbsp;</FONT><FONT 
  size=2>information&nbsp;for developping of your&nbsp;own&nbsp;version 
  variants,</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>you are now </FONT><FONT size=2>turning your shrude 
  commercial back.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>All that is also made available in the "Everything you've 
  always wanted to know</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>about Bollinger Bands"-mail of which an update was send 
  lately (see below for</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>a short mail-discussion on the %B oscillator at that time 
  in&nbsp;1998).</DIV></FONT>
  <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>To what I have seen so far from mails that you've&nbsp;send 
  can only tell that you</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>are the List's greatest Plagiarism-ist.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>If it was not for raping (in Name) the CMO, an indicator 
  +&nbsp;spinoff varaints that are</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>widely described </FONT><FONT size=2>in&nbsp;his Chande's 
  book, than it was for the custom Linnear</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>Regression(Formula) </FONT><FONT size=2>and </FONT><FONT 
  size=2>DMI(Formula) </FONT><FONT size=2>and </FONT><FONT size=2>their variants 
  that I've send, and thus now</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>lately </FONT><FONT size=2>for the raping </FONT><FONT 
  size=2>in Name (apart from bending the original </FONT><FONT size=2>name, a 
  histogram to</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>represent an </FONT><FONT size=2>indicator that is 
  </FONT><FONT size=2>expressed in bars within a border limited price 
  </FONT><FONT size=2>scale) </FONT><FONT size=2>and</DIV></FONT>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>Formula&nbsp;(also apart from the typo's in that formula) 
  for </FONT><FONT size=2>the 20+ years</DIV></FONT>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>ago by John </FONT><FONT size=2>Bollinger's described 
  &lt;based on the bands&gt; </FONT><FONT size=2>%B oscillator.</DIV></FONT>
  <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>Over the past years all of the set of original formulas for 
  the above have all been posted</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>to the List, and </FONT><FONT size=2>all you have 
  </FONT><FONT size=2>had to do at that time was (and what you've done 
  is)</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>Copy + Paste.</DIV></FONT>
  <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>
  <DIV><FONT size=2><FONT size=2>In my next mail have again included 
  the&nbsp;original standard %B. </FONT></FONT><FONT size=2>All that too is also 
  been</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>made available </FONT><FONT size=2>in the</DIV></FONT>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>"Everything you've always wanted to know </FONT><FONT 
  size=2>about Bollinger Bands"-mail</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>of which </FONT><FONT size=2>a revised&nbsp;</FONT><FONT 
  size=2>update was send lately.&nbsp;It will also show your pleas.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>Cheap, cheap, cheap PLAGIARISM (Formulas) + RAPE (Formula 
  Names).</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>Sure the CMT-course has thaught and learned you to parrot, but plagiarism 
  + rape, I cannot</DIV>
  <DIV>remember to having seen&nbsp;that&nbsp;in this very low leveled 
  course.</DIV>
  <DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>I appriciate seeing any one's viewpoint or possitve 
  developments or positive discussions, but</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>cannot </FONT><FONT size=2>stand seeing crap {also the 
  reason why I quit that mediocre course}.</FONT></DIV></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV></DIV></FONT></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>The&nbsp;cedar creek must be a long time ago dried up creek, 
  not for trading practises,</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>but for originality, spirit&nbsp;and 
  inspiration.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>Either that, or (expression wise) "This List's success, and 
  your succes well derived from </FONT><FONT size=2>it,</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>must have gone straight to your head".</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>You've blundered in under-estimating the fact that one pins 
  right through hoaxing&nbsp;facades</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>(on the List + commercialy) one tries&nbsp;</FONT><FONT 
  size=2>to build.</DIV></FONT>
  <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>You must think of the List, other people or other List 
  members that they are "stupid" or something.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT><FONT size=2></FONT><FONT size=2></FONT><FONT 
  size=2></FONT><FONT size=2></FONT><FONT size=2></FONT><FONT 
  size=2></FONT><FONT size=2></FONT><FONT size=2></FONT><FONT size=2>Not only is 
  that denigrading&nbsp;to the level of the List, but also to its 
  members.&nbsp;</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT><BR><FONT size=2>Regards,<BR>Ton Maas</DIV></FONT>
  <DIV><A href="mailto:ms-irb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";><FONT 
  size=2>ms-irb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx</FONT></A><BR><FONT size=2>Dismiss the 
  ".nospam" bit (including the dot) when replying.<BR>Homepage&nbsp; </FONT><A 
  href="http://home.planet.nl/~anthmaas";><FONT 
  size=2>http://home.planet.nl/~anthmaas</FONT></A></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>=======================================</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman">----- Original Message ----- </FONT>
  <DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman">From: "A.J. Maas" &lt;</FONT><A 
  href="mailto:anthmaas@xxxxxx";><FONT 
  face="Times New Roman">anthmaas@xxxxxx</FONT></A><FONT 
  face="Times New Roman">&gt;</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman">To: &lt;</FONT><A 
  href="mailto:kernish@xxxxxxxxxxxx>"><FONT 
  face="Times New Roman">kernish@xxxxxxxxxxxx&gt;</FONT></A><FONT 
  face="Times New Roman">; "Lionel Issen" &lt;</FONT><A 
  href="mailto:lissen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";><FONT 
  face="Times New Roman">lissen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx</FONT></A><FONT 
  face="Times New Roman">&gt;</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman">Cc: "MetaStock-List" &lt;</FONT><A 
  href="mailto:metastock-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";><FONT 
  face="Times New Roman">metastock-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</FONT></A><FONT 
  face="Times New Roman">&gt;</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman">Sent: vrijdag 3 april 1998 
13:21</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman">Subject: Re: BB histogram</FONT></DIV></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman"><BR></FONT></DIV><FONT 
  face="Times New Roman">&gt; "Bollinger %B" - formula:<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; -This 
  indicator can be obtained from&nbsp; </FONT><A 
  href="http://www.equis.com";><FONT 
  face="Times New Roman">www.equis.com</FONT></A><BR><FONT 
  face="Times New Roman">&gt; &nbsp; (TechSupport/Formula's extensive 
  "shop").<BR>&gt; -This indicator displayes(=indicates) where the price resides 
  "within"<BR>&gt; &nbsp; the bands' range-width (expressed in a 0 - 100 
  scale-range) and<BR>&gt; &nbsp; on occasion also when it is "outside" the 
  scale-range(&lt;0 or &gt;100)<BR>&gt; -This indicator can also be used as 
  a:<BR>&gt; &nbsp; 1. ob/os-indicator(horizontal lines at 100 and 0 , 
  &gt;100=ob , &lt;0=os)<BR>&gt; &nbsp; 2. pos/neg-oscilator* (horizontal line 
  at 50, pos=&gt;50, neg=&lt;50) <BR>&gt; &nbsp; 2. divergence-indicator(f.i. as 
  oppose to the sec.'s price-indicator)<BR>&gt; &nbsp; 3. (early pre-)signaling 
  trends' peaks/low-indicator(in general:<BR>&gt; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
  peak=sell + low=buy)<BR>&gt; &nbsp; 4. ST-buy/sell-indicator(with up- and down 
  crossings of<BR>&gt; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; f.i. its 20 SMA as the 
  tricker-line)&nbsp; <BR>&gt; -This indicator can also be used with:<BR>&gt; 
  &nbsp; A. the "floating" ob/os-zone's-indcators<BR>&gt; &nbsp; B. the 
  bands-width(measuring)-indicators(ratio's,points,percentages) <BR>&gt; 
  <BR>&gt; *To create its oscilator-histogram right-click the indicator's 
  properties<BR>&gt; and change Metastocks' (standard-configured) 
  straight-line(line-pattern)<BR>&gt; to (optionaly-configurable) 
  horizontal-strokes(histogram-pattern).<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Regards,<BR>&gt; Ton 
  Maas.<BR>&gt; </FONT><A href="mailto:Ms-IRB@xxxxxxxxx";><FONT 
  face="Times New Roman">Ms-IRB@xxxxxxxxx</FONT></A><BR><FONT 
  face="Times New Roman">&gt; (Ps. Wolters Kluwer(WKL-BBNasd) is about(this 
  Apr98 DGR 280) to<BR>&gt; give its next uptrends' BUY-signal with the target 
  set at DGR 360<BR>&gt; (ExRa US$/DGR 2.10-2.20 is then equiv. to US$ 165-170) 
  <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----<BR>&gt; 
  Van: Lionel Issen &lt;</FONT><A href="mailto:lissen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";><FONT 
  face="Times New Roman">lissen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx</FONT></A><FONT 
  face="Times New Roman">&gt;<BR>&gt; Aan: </FONT><A 
  href="mailto:kernish@xxxxxxxxxxxx";><FONT 
  face="Times New Roman">kernish@xxxxxxxxxxxx</FONT></A><FONT 
  face="Times New Roman"> &lt;</FONT><A href="mailto:kernish@xxxxxxxxxxxx";><FONT 
  face="Times New Roman">kernish@xxxxxxxxxxxx</FONT></A><FONT 
  face="Times New Roman">&gt;<BR>&gt; CC: MetaStock-List &lt;</FONT><A 
  href="mailto:metastock-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";><FONT 
  face="Times New Roman">metastock-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</FONT></A><FONT 
  face="Times New Roman">&gt;<BR>&gt; Datum: donderdag 2 april 1998 
  21:03<BR>&gt; Onderwerp: Re: BB histogram<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; &gt;Try 
  this:<BR>&gt; &gt;Plot as an indicator in its own window<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; 
  &gt;(the upper band - the lower band)/2<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;This will 
  give you the distance from the mean.<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;There is 
  probably a canned indicator that will give you the equivalent<BR>&gt; 
  &gt;information, try the standard deviation with the same look back period 
  as<BR>&gt; &gt;Bollinger.<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;Lionel Issen<BR>&gt; 
  &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;At 08:01 AM 4/2/98 -0800, Steve Karnish wrote:<BR>&gt; 
  &gt;&gt;Can anyone help me convert Bollinger Bands into a histogram.&nbsp; I 
  can right<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;click on the indicator and get to "properties" for 
  the indicator...but, I'm<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;lost after that.&nbsp; In this 
  scenario:&nbsp; the mean becomes the zero basis and<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;the 
  standard deviations are parallel (two standard deviations away).&nbsp; 
  Any<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;input would be appreciated.<BR>&gt; 
  &gt;&gt;Thanks,<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt;Steve Karnish<BR>&gt; &gt;&gt; <BR>&gt; 
  &gt;Lionel Issen<BR>&gt; &gt;lissen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<BR></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>=======================================</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>----- Original Message ----- 
  <DIV>From: "Lionel Issen"</DIV>
  <DIV>To: &lt;<A 
  href="mailto:metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</A>&gt;</DIV>
  <DIV>Sent: zaterdag 15 april 2000 0:07</DIV>
  <DIV>Subject: Re: Flip it good.</DIV></DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV>&gt; Steve:<BR>&gt; I just didn't want to reinvent the wheel.<BR>&gt; 
  Lionel Issen<BR>&gt; <A 
  href="mailto:lissen@xxxxxxxxx";>lissen@xxxxxxxxx</A></DIV>
  <DIV>&gt;<BR>&gt; ----- Original Message -----<BR>&gt; From: Jim Simko &lt;<A 
  href="mailto:jssrvs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>jssrvs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx</A>&gt;<BR>&gt; 
  To: &lt;<A 
  href="mailto:metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</A>&gt;<BR>&gt; 
  Sent: Friday, April 14, 2000 4:19 PM<BR>&gt; Subject: Re: Flip it 
  good.<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; &gt; Steve: You must have learned how to make 
  butter in 3rd grade also! Ha!<BR>&gt; &gt; Keep smoke em, Jim<BR>&gt; 
  &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; Steve Karnish wrote:<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; 
  Lionel,<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; I believe you (or anyone 
  interested) should try to discover whether the<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; simple or 
  "others" are best.&nbsp; I try to provide the list with simple<BR>&gt; &gt; 
  &gt; frameworks for trading, yet it always seems that people want more.&nbsp; 
  I&nbsp;will<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; not give out "all the secrets" that 25 years of 
  daily research have<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; unveiled.&nbsp; Besides, what do I know 
  anyway?&nbsp; I went long the S&amp;P this<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; morning, I was 
  educated in the Detroit Public Schools, and my brain&nbsp;tissues<BR>&gt; &gt; 
  &gt; are deteriorating, as we speak, due to my advancing years.&nbsp; 
  This&nbsp;combination<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; of factors should slow down your 
  enthusiasm for my approach.&nbsp; I publish&nbsp;my<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; trades 
  the day before I initiate them.&nbsp;&nbsp; I believe I owe my 
  friends,<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; relatives, and clients the courtesy of withholding 
  the specific formulae<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; that is responsible for showering 
  their accounts with equity infusions.<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; Besides, I've signed 
  "intergalactic" contracts with the "big Boyz" that<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; prohibit 
  me from dissemenating the specific information that you are<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; 
  requesting.&nbsp; I hope my contributions are enough.&nbsp; As many forum 
  members<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; know:&nbsp; clients get invited into the "secret 
  cave" and allowed to look at&nbsp;the<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; "writing on the 
  wall".<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; Take care,<BR>&gt; &gt; 
  &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; Steve Karnish<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; Cedar Creek 
  Trading<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; <A 
  href="http://www.cedarcreektrading.com";>http://www.cedarcreektrading.com</A><BR>&gt; 
  &gt; &gt; ----- Original Message -----<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; From: Lionel Issen 
  &lt;lissen@xxxxxxxxx&gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; 
  &gt; To: &lt;<A 
  href="mailto:metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</A>&gt;<BR>&gt; 
  &gt; &gt; Sent: Friday, April 14, 2000 10:12 AM<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; Subject: Re: 
  Flip it good.<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Steve:<BR>&gt; &gt; 
  &gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; This is an interesting indicator. Is the 
  simple mov better than the&nbsp;other<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; available (in 
  metastock) mov's.<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Lionel Issen<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; 
  lissen@xxxxxxxxx<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; 
  ----- Original Message -----<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; From: Steve Karnish &lt;<A 
  href="mailto:kernish@xxxxxxxxxxxx";>kernish@xxxxxxxxxxxx</A>&gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; 
  &gt; &gt; To: &lt;<A 
  href="mailto:metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</A>&gt;<BR>&gt; 
  &gt; &gt; &gt; Sent: Friday, April 14, 2000 9:48 AM<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; 
  Subject: Re: Flip it good.<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; 
  &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; This is not the super-secret, one of a kind, 
  better than all the&nbsp;rest,<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; <FONT 
  face="Times New Roman">&gt; &gt; </FONT>CCT&nbsp;Bollinger Band Histogram, but 
  basically there is not much<BR>&gt; <FONT face="Times New Roman">&gt; &gt; 
  &gt; &gt; </FONT>difference.<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; 
  &gt; &gt; ((C+2*Std(C,20)-Mov(C,20,S))/(4*(Std(C,20)))*100)<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; 
  &gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; If you want the modified version, email 
  me privately and I'll tell&nbsp;you<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; where&nbsp;to 
  send the unmarked bills.<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; 
  &gt; Steve Karnish<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Cedar Creek Trading<BR>&gt; 
  &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; <A 
  href="http://www.cedarcreektrading.com";>http://www.cedarcreektrading.com</A><BR>&gt; 
  &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; ----- Original Message -----<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; 
  From: rbox &lt;jrbox@xxxxxxx&gt;<BR>&gt; 
  &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; To: &lt;<A 
  href="mailto:metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</A>&gt;<BR>&gt; 
  &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Sent: Friday, April 14, 2000 6:17 AM<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; 
  &gt; &gt; Subject: Re: Flip it good.<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; 
  &gt; &gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Steve, could you please post 
  the formula<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; for the CCT Bollinger Band 
  Histogram?<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Thanks a 
lot!</DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
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Status:   

JimG

She came home from her office all excited on Friday.  All the execs at work
had the radio and TVs on watching the market and crying out loud.  She on
the other hand remembered we were short, so came home asking how much money
we made.  Near tears when I told her we went long that morning.

GLOBEX  S&P down 20 and the NASDAQ down 90.  Hold on tight.

Guy


-----Original Message-----
From: owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
Behalf Of Jim Greening
Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2000 11:18 AM
To: metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: New Buy Signal

Guy,
     Tell your wife it's not what stocks do the day you get in that counts,
it's where they are the day you get out <G>.  I agree with you on CSCO and
INTC.  They are both on my "watch" list, but not on my "watch close" list
because they are too far above any support.  Of course the way the market is
going it may not take them too long to get there <G>.

JimG

----- Original Message -----
From: "Guy Tann" <grt@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, April 14, 2000 9:48 PM
Subject: RE: New Buy Signal


> JimG
>
> Did you get the number of that truck?
>
> With the gap down this morning, the damage wasn't too great.... Cough,
> cough...
>
> I think most of those stocks on the list are solid, good buys.  At least I
> didn't buy them on margin and still kept almost half of my capital in
cash.
> I will be looking for opportunities to add to my positions.  Stocks that I
> really like are INTC and CSCO.  Both are having record sales and earnings
a
> la AMD.  I don't know this one individual personally (he's a friend's
> neighbor), but he bought CSCO yesterday and today and will buy more on
> Monday and he works for them.  Feels these are tremendous buying
> opportunities.  If you stay away from the stocks with no business, no
> profits, etc., you should be all right, IMHO.
>
> Meanwhile, we're licking our wounds and looking for an opportunity to buy
> more.
>
> Meanwhile, how do I explain to my better half that the first 2 forays into
> equities from futures were on the two biggest down days on record. :)
Talk
> about the kiss of death.
>
> Good luck,
>
> Guy
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
> Behalf Of Jim Greening
> Sent: Friday, April 14, 2000 3:06 PM
> To: metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: New Buy Signal
>
> Guy,
>      I don't know if we are in agreement or not.  I got scared today when
> the NASDAQ plunged through the bottom of its Intermediate term up trend
> channel and closed all my high tech and finance type positions.  I'm now
> only long CBRL and WMT (how's that for high flyers <G>).
>      However, I do like the stocks in your list and will be watching for
> good entry points.  I'm just not going to rush back in at this point.  I'd
> rather lick my wounds and wait for the dust to clear a little.
>      I've noticed that your signals are usually right on but sometimes a
few
> days early so you probably will have a great position here.  Besides you
can
> add my caution to your list of contrary indicators <G>
>      Best of luck!
>
> JimG
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Guy Tann" <grt@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: "Metastock User Group" <metastock-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, April 14, 2000 12:26 AM
> Subject: New Buy Signal
>
>
> > List,
> >
> > I know that everyone has been waiting for this :) but we're going long
on
> > Friday.  Ta Taaaaa
> >
> > Let the games begin.  We'll be buying S&P futures as well as the
following
> > stocks.  My brother and I spent 3 hours tonight picking these babies, so
I
> > hope they don't disappoint.  We are not jumping in with both feet
though.
> > Playing cautious.  I originally started buying more, but went back and
> > changed my orders so that I will be only 25% invested (of available
margin
> > funds).  I figure, this way I limit my risk if my signal is wrong, and
> also
> > provide myself with an opportunity to buy more should the market look
> good.
> >
> > Here is the list of stocks we're buying:
> >
> > TER
> > ATML
> > INTC
> > LLTC
> > HLIT
> > SFA
> > TXN
> > QCOM
> > AMCC
> > ORCL
> > HWP
> > IBM
> > CSCO
> >
> > We've tried to spread our exposure in those groups we're most
comfortable
> > with.  Heavy exposure to the semi conductors, etc.
> >
> > Anyway, I would like to think that now that we're in agreement with
Steve
> K.
> > and JimG, we're all in sync.  Maybe working together we can stop this
slid
> e,
> > at least for a while. :)
> >
> >
> >
> > Guy
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>