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<DIV><FONT size=2>Lionel,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>S&amp;P 500 is at <A 
href="http://www.spglobal.com/ssindexmain500text.html";>http://www.spglobal.com/ssindexmain500text.html</A></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>S&amp;P 400 is at <A 
href="http://www.spglobal.com/ssindexmain400text.html";>http://www.spglobal.com/ssindexmain400text.html</A></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>S&amp;P 600 is at <A 
href="http://www.spglobal.com/ssindexmain600text.html";>http://www.spglobal.com/ssindexmain600text.html</A></FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Joe</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><B>-----Original Message-----</B><BR><B>From: 
  </B>lissen@xxxxxxx &lt;<A 
  href="mailto:lissen@xxxxxxx";>lissen@xxxxxxx</A>&gt;<BR><B>To: </B><A 
  href="mailto:metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</A> &lt;<A 
  href="mailto:metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</A>&gt;<BR><B>Date: 
  </B>Saturday, January 15, 2000 12:30 PM<BR><B>Subject: </B>S&amp;P 
  lists<BR><BR></DIV></FONT>I was able to download the S&amp;P 500 list at the 
  S&amp;P web site.&nbsp; I was not<BR>able to access the list for the S&amp;P 
  mid cap and small cap stocks.<BR><BR>Where can I access these 
  lists?<BR><BR><BR>Lionel Issen<BR><A 
  href="mailto:lissen@xxxxxxxxx";>lissen@xxxxxxxxx</A><BR><BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
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From: "A.J. Maas" <anthmaas@xxxxxxxxx>
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Subject: Re: to be or not to be
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<DIV><FONT size=2>I am speaking from a user and shareholder's point of view, and 
not forgetting what is right and what is wrong. That makes me&nbsp;a happy go 
round type of private person and part-owner. Whatever covered </FONT><FONT 
size=2>communism is to be brought upon me or my properties, will be met 
accordingly. The DOJ is a biased state employed marrionet, that probably not 
personaly, but indeed combined with his mates, the Gov+States, will 
figurerarly&nbsp;bleed for his actions or any by him taken actions,&nbsp;that 
will or can at any way and at any time damage my own (intellectual) possesions 
and properties, eg shares and stuff.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><BR>Regards,<BR>Ton Maas<BR><A 
href="mailto:ms-irb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>ms-irb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx</A><BR>Dismiss the 
".nospam" bit (including the dot) when replying and<BR>note the new address 
change. Also for my Homepage<BR><A 
href="http://home.planet.nl/~anthmaas";>http://home.planet.nl/~anthmaas</A></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
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  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
  <DIV 
  style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> 
  <A href="mailto:jehardt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx"; title=jehardt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>Joseph 
  Ehardt</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A 
  href="mailto:metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx"; 
  title=metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> zaterdag 15 januari 2000 
18:10</DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: to be or not to be</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>I don't think I have anything mixed up. More likely is that 
  I have read the publicly distributed Findings of Fact in DOJ vs Microsoft and 
  am more familiar with American law.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>TM: I am&nbsp;assuming US law not to be any different than 
  laws elswhere. If there is to be an unsatisfactory outcome coming from this 
  dispute, then the European Commission has got some artillary it wants to throw 
  at Microsoft too. In that, laws are laws. Again, this artillary 
  is&nbsp;intervering with one's private properties and free enterprise. As such 
  the Shareholders Association here in the Netherlands and its sister 
  organisations elswhere in the EuroCommunity are ready to&nbsp;fully head-on 
  attack the EC's Commission, naturaly with endless claims to follow. Claims 
  that will be coming in from around the globe. Where these Governments around 
  the globe seems to team up (the EC has a deal with the US Fed, to await the 
  outcome first), more many is in the hand of shareholders. Enough to break 
  societies</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>and their Governments to realy go into bankruptcy. Now how 
  will that effect the consumer ??</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>From your comments, which are pretty&nbsp;far ranging, I 
  think you might not understand what Microsoft did with respect to Compaq. It 
  also did similar things with other companies. But let me return to Compaq, 
  because it helps to understand the facts as revealed by Microsoft's own 
  internal documents as made public in the trial.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>TM: Microsoft is at liberty to end licences for their 
  software as they wish. So is Compaq at liberty to develope their own software. 
  If their to lazy or not aggressive enough or not financed enough,&nbsp;then 
  they should seek advise from professionals, as to how to be succesfull in 
  software too. Also Compaq is at liberty to refuse to sell Microsoft products 
  with their computers too, and let buying an OS&nbsp;up to their own customers. 
  Not a very clever thing to do, but its their right and choise. The negative 
  side of this is that Microsoft might than not sell enough of its software, and 
  than that would be up to Microsoft to solve. Here Microsoft has done its 
  homework, where Compaq </FONT><FONT size=2>enriched its executives while 
  they&nbsp;did not do their homework, eg were failures and ought to be sacked. 
  Just see how easy Dell surpassed the utherly simple selling techniques Compaq 
  enherrited from the late 80's and were the co is to log and&nbsp;did not 
  adjust. IBM for that matter is an equal example. Not all brains and a lot of 
  company arrogance. Good on them. Gives other users a chance to buy much 
  cheaper PC's with the same or in the case of IBM, much better advances and 
  qualities. </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>Question: What right does Microsoft have to demand that 
  Compaq not use Netscape at its personal browser? Compaq was installing 
  Internet Explorer on systems sold to customers, which should have made 
  Microsoft content, but it had adopted the internal company standard of using 
  Netscape which predated IE. Microsoft demanded that this end.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>TM: All the right in the world. Simply because of the fact 
  that Compaq will have to meet the owners standards, in this Microsoft 
  standards (and not ever the other way around) if it wants to gain a legal 
  licensce from the owners of the software, weather this will be Microsoft or 
  for example, Ton Maas.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>If I notice that one of my copyrighted indicators is being 
  sold or being mis-used, I will also sue that person/co, since I have not given 
  out any written permission to anyone to do so or to make any changes to it. It 
  is my (intellectual) property/propriety and I am the only one at right liberty 
  to do with it as I see fit, eg and how I pleases. If I notice for instance, 
  that you want to use it in a weekly magizine's software,&nbsp;for example for 
  its weekly Hot tips-section, be sure that I will take on action to prevend it 
  or come to some sort of arrangement, where "not using SuperChart software" for 
  example could be included in the license.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>&nbsp;&nbsp; </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>Question: Switching the context, if you think that Microsoft 
  has this right and you happen to not use Internet Explorer, do you believe 
  that Microsoft has the right to force you to switch to Internet Explorer, and 
  if you refuse, that it has the right to strip Windows off your personal 
  computer and electronically monitor your system to insure that you never 
  install Windows on your system?</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>Microsoft is not forcing any one to use the Internet 
  Exploder. You can even easy write (f.i. in VB) your own&nbsp;browser. Neither 
  is it also forcing anyone to use its Microsoft Exchange program,&nbsp;you know 
  that very dreadfull program, its to simple MsPaint or NotePad&nbsp;programs. 
  You should feel lucky that these programs come free with the OEM and OSR 
  versions. You are at your own liberty to use these programs or "overwrite" 
  with other perhaps better quality software programs. Also my ISP for instance 
  was also giving its users&nbsp;free licenses for the Netscape v1.0 to v3.0 
  browsers, whilst anyone using&nbsp;different browsers were not supported. If 
  Netscape had forced these tactics onto my ISP is to be seen and basicaly 
  irrellevent to me, since I could confince the ISP that I didn't need their 
  support, eg since the IE browser wasn't giving me any problems at all and 
  since it seemingly fitted in with my OS, as though "it was there&nbsp;since I 
  bought my PC". And any browser upgrades (note for free as well) were only 
  large&nbsp;improvements, that much that I am still running a in 1997 for the 
  last time installed Win95 OS version and that the latest browser 
  version,&nbsp;the IE5x, just&nbsp; -by itselve-&nbsp;&nbsp;made the 
  just-about-what-anyone-needed upgrade to and especially the by me required 
  upgrade to a "smaller version of Win98". I only miss out on some file 
  maintance tools and some extra window&nbsp;colouring schemes (but then again 
  who needs these).&nbsp; </FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>The issue is not whether Microsoft has the right to 
  distribute and sell its products, nor is it that Microsoft owns the rights to 
  these products. No one has argued that it does not. The issue that has been 
  adjudicated, re-stated in different terms, is whether Microsoft had the right 
  to use its monopoly power to force people to buy its product when they do not 
  wish to do so. Microsoft was interfering with the right of individuals and 
  companies to freely choose other products.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>TM: Ofcourse it has these rights since it is protecting its 
  property. Assume you don't have car-jacks in the States? Where the rightfull 
  owner of a car gets forced by a car-jacker to get out of his/hers&nbsp;car, 
  and the car-jacker takes off with the car. Now how would you feel? Having 
  protective&nbsp;tools with you, can prefent you to loose your car, eg it is 
  after all your rightfull pressious property, aint it? Or should we say "Please 
  do get in......".</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>In business life its not different,&nbsp;therefore common 
  sense (that is if you/company have any) teaches you and co's to protect 
  your/their property(ies).</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>&nbsp;</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>Another example: IBM has an office application suite of its 
  own (Lotus) that it put on computers that it builds. Do you think that 
  Microsoft has the right to force IBM to replace its own Lotus software with 
  that of Microsoft Office?</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>TM: IBM doesn't have to sell Microsoft software. They have 
  their own&nbsp;dreadfull OS, named OS2. IBM can than also install 
  their&nbsp;too simple and too basic Lotus program on their PCs too. PC that do 
  not work properly, an OS that doesn't work properly and an office suite that 
  no-one wants, nice combination to hit the All Time Highs on the stockmarkets, 
  ain't it? Remember too that you as shareholder are part-owner&nbsp;of that 
  company too? Unless US laws differ from elsewhere.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>There are more examples that were proven during the course 
  of the trial, and they are all contained in the Findings of Fact document. 
  Personally, I want my right protected to freely choose products and services 
  as guaranteed by the law. I refuse the assertion that any company has the 
  right&nbsp;to coerce me to buy its products.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>TM: You too have the right(not the obligation) to tell the 
  shopkeeper that you do not want Microsoft software. It is then up to the 
  shopkeeper to refund you for</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>missing the OS, which since its only a US $50 cost, he most 
  likely will not do. Tell him that you will go to the shop next-door, and 
  perhaps you can pursway the salesman. Else when you are at home with your new 
  PC, un-install Windows. Whatever you do after is up to you, and not the 
  reasponsability of Microsoft, the former shopkeeper(s) or anyone lese, no it 
  is all in your own hands, free and at liberty to isntall other software, eg 
  like the above mentioned OS2, PCDOS, UNIX,LINUX, and several others that are 
  around. That said, good luck with it.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>Maybe if your information sources were not from press 
  accounts, then you might have a more circumspect understanding of Microsoft's 
  actions.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>TM: The whole issue here is not Microsoft, but the arrogance 
  of other co's and especially Governments(like said that holds the largest 
  amount of true monopolies)</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>and their teamsters, the so called independent states. If 
  other co's want&nbsp;to be succesfull at something, then first they should 
  show and be an aggressive player, have intrest to develope new things, want to 
  change their inside attitudes,&nbsp;seek advise from real professionals that 
  can scan the company on its faults and employ the right workers.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>If not, then they are take-over candidates, of which 
  formentioned companies will then be the victum.&nbsp;Besides all this said, I 
  couldn't give a heep if IBM, Compaq or whatever co for that matter goes down, 
  they call it upon themselves, and it is never&nbsp;due to other co's that do 
  all in their power and make the right efforts to meet up with the above 
  criterea.&nbsp;</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>Joe</FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
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Subject: RE: Fib MA's and the S&P
Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2000 17:07:41 -0600
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<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=390090323-15012000>14 is 
approximately 1/2 of the lunar cycle (29.2 days) and was why this particular 
value was chosen for </SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=390090323-15012000>RSI 
according to the "delta" book.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader><FONT face="Times New Roman" 
  size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> 
  owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]<B>On 
  Behalf Of</B> lissen@xxxxxxx<BR><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, January 15, 2000 12:15 
  PM<BR><B>To:</B> metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: Fib MA's and 
  the S&amp;P<BR><BR></DIV></FONT>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>All federal buildings that are tall enough have a 13th 
  floor.&nbsp; Few or no private sector building in the US have a 13th 
  floor.&nbsp; The floor numbers go from 12 to 14.&nbsp; Next time you are in a 
  private sector building and are on the 14th floor, you are really on the 13th 
  floor.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>I've read that the origin of 13 being an unlucky number 
  stems from the last supper when 13 males shared the meal.&nbsp; However the 
  story doesn't count the&nbsp;servants who served the meal.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>Concerning 14 being the magic number for RSI and other 
  oscillators; There is nothing very special about these numbers.&nbsp; For 
  particular instruments, other numbers may give better results.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>So much for magical numbers and superstitions.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>Lionel Issen</FONT></DIV>
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    <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
    <DIV 
    style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> 
    A.J. Maas 
    </DIV>
    <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A 
    href="mailto:metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx"; 
    title=metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>Metastock-List</A> </DIV>
    <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, January 15, 2000 4:39 
    AM</DIV>
    <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Fib MA's and the 
    S&amp;P</DIV>
    <DIV><BR></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2>No, not a single one of my own developped indicators 
    carries the 13&nbsp;number in it.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2>****Since I have found&nbsp;</FONT><FONT size=2>13 to be 
    the&nbsp;unlucky number,&nbsp;eg this based 
    (like&nbsp;fib)&nbsp;on&nbsp;historical hypes,</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2>myths,&nbsp;</FONT><FONT 
    size=2>anecdotes&nbsp;</FONT><FONT size=2>and </FONT><FONT size=2>other 
    historical rhymes and riddles&nbsp;that&nbsp;over and over again&nbsp;have 
    proved</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2>this view&nbsp;</FONT><FONT size=2>to be true,&nbsp;will 
    naturally not use 13 in financial/trade systems. Especialy when it 
    also</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2>falls on a black(cat) Friday and I have to leave the house 
    noticing that the window cleaner's ladder</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2>is blocking the door.****</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2>Sub Seriously.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; T</FONT><FONT size=2>he closest I 
    get </FONT><FONT size=2>to is either the basic 10, the basic 14 (standard in 
    f.i. RSI) or the basic 15.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Below is a partial print of 
    that mail that&nbsp;I sent you.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;If your ma's + numbers in 
    your ma's makes you melt from their "dazzling visual 
    support/resistance",</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; than keep </FONT><FONT size=2>in 
    mind </FONT><FONT size=2>that the sequence's parts that you did&nbsp;used 
    and&nbsp;not left&nbsp;out, are&nbsp;</FONT><FONT size=2>so much equal 
    close</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; to </FONT><FONT size=2>the 
    decimal fractals, eg thus&nbsp;</FONT><FONT size=2>not fib 
    numbers&nbsp;giving your indicators their validity&nbsp;</FONT><FONT 
    size=2>but the straight</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;forward </FONT><FONT 
    size=2>"theached-at-any-primary-school" Decimal System's 
    calculations&nbsp;systematics&nbsp;</FONT><FONT size=2>and 
    methods.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Next up, you believers, 
    are&nbsp;going to bring Van Gogh's used painting methods into the trading 
    attributes</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; and patterns&nbsp;as well. I can 
    see it&nbsp;already in front of me,&nbsp;"the Van Gogh price crunching 
    patterns tell</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;this and that&nbsp;bla bla 
    bla".</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2>End&nbsp;Sub.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2>
    <DIV><FONT size=2>Dino, Leno and Nino</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2>I can just imagine you in these places standing there with 
    your fib-calculator in your hand, timing&nbsp;when</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2>the breaks/resting pauzes </FONT><FONT size=2>were 
    due.</FONT><FONT size=2></DIV>
    <DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2>Sure you don't have them mixed with the 
    famous&nbsp;TV-presentators, cartoon-heros and Hollywood 
    stars/singers?</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</FONT></FONT><BR>Regards,<BR>Ton 
    Maas<BR><A 
    href="mailto:ms-irb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>ms-irb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx</A><BR>Dismiss 
    the ".nospam" bit (including the dot) when replying and<BR>note the new 
    address change. Also for my Homepage<BR><A 
    href="http://home.planet.nl/~anthmaas";>http://home.planet.nl/~anthmaas</A></DIV></DIV></DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT 
    size=2>------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2>Tho, I am getting myself programmed to act according to a 
    Buy/Sell indicator.<BR>This then can either be the ELWAVE or another 
    indicator which I am currently testing within<BR>&nbsp;Excel (and as yet 
    cannot be fully implemented in a program like Metatstock).<BR>I have already 
    been testing this for over a year now and this indicator will be a<BR>plain 
    On/Off indicator(biwave) with signal crossings of and made by a current 
    positive<BR>Trend indication and a current negative Trend 
    indication.<BR><BR>A workable duplicate&nbsp; -tho this one is based on 
    LinReg and slightly later signaling-&nbsp;&nbsp; is the<BR>following biwave 
    "TM - RALLY Meter - LJ2" 
    indicator:<BR><BR>If(((LinearReg(C,14)/Ref(LinearReg(C,14),-9))-1)&gt;-0.002,+1,-1)</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2>{Indicator + formula are copyrighted by Ton Maas - MsIRB - 
    the Netherlands}<BR><BR>This is very well to be used with the "TM - RALLY 
    Meter - Osc" indicator(also based on<BR>LinReg) wich I have mailed to you 
    before: <BR><BR>(LinearReg(C,14)/Ref(LinearReg(C,14),-14))-1<BR>{as the 
    trigger overlay use with a smoothed version, eg a SMA5.<BR><FONT 
    size=2>Indicator + formula are copyrighted by Ton Maas - MsIRB - the 
    Netherlands}<BR></FONT><BR>Hope this all answered your mails questions and 
    that you have been able to ride the<BR>S&amp;P's restanding move upwards 
    with for you the required $ gains,<BR><BR>Regards,<BR>Ton 
    Maas<BR></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT 
    size=2>============================================<BR></DIV></FONT>
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      <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
      <DIV 
      style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> 
      <A href="mailto:kernish@xxxxxxxxxxxx"; title=kernish@xxxxxxxxxxxx>Steve 
      Karnish</A> </DIV>
      <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A 
      href="mailto:metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx"; 
      title=metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</A> ; <A 
      href="mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx"; 
      title=realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>RTList</A> </DIV>
      <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> vrijdag 14 januari 2000 
      5:06</DIV>
      <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Fib MA's and the 
      S&amp;P</DIV>
      <DIV><BR></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Ton,</FONT></DIV>
      <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Sorry, it took a while to respond.&nbsp; I 
      was working the Ag Exposition in Spokane, WA.&nbsp; I hung a sign in the 
      convention arena, danced a monkey around on a string, and while the crowd 
      was being misdirected, I&nbsp;lifted all their wallets.&nbsp; 
</FONT></DIV>
      <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>The fibonacci moving averages are posted for 
      pure amusement (you know, just like the monkey).&nbsp; I have a real 
      simple mind and I'm easily fooled.&nbsp; I'm totally amused by dropping a 
      "fib" moving average template on a chart and seeing all the little "coinky 
      dinkies".&nbsp; Ton, I like these averages.&nbsp; I think they're more fun 
      than 10, 20, 50, 100 or whatever makes you giggle.&nbsp; </FONT></DIV>
      <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I&nbsp;make my living (the wallet stealing 
      part) by employing a consistent, simple, mechanical system to all the 
      markets that I trade. This "system" features momentum oscillators. And, Oh 
      God,</FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2> it has one or two or three (dare I 
      say) "fibonacci numbers" imbedded in the damn formula.&nbsp; "I mean the 
      shame of it all!"&nbsp; Fib numbers violating the integrity of a sound 
      momentum oscillator.&nbsp; </FONT></DIV>
      <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Ton, you must&nbsp;have missed my stirring 
      historical review of Fibonacci's trip to Egypt, his lovers, and other 
      antidotes.&nbsp; It was all related to me in a bar in Detroit (circa 1981) 
      by one of his descended.&nbsp;I forget if it was Leno, Dino, or Nino 
      Fibonacci (three&nbsp;brothers who you want on your team when the 
      chairs&nbsp;start flying).&nbsp; If anyone still has that post, please 
      share it with Ton.&nbsp; </FONT></DIV>
      <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Meanwhile, I'll be mechanically trading for a 
      friends, relatives, and a couple of guys whose names end with a 
      vowel.&nbsp; And Ton, shame on you if you use 13 in any of your 
      formulas.&nbsp; Didn't you send me a Linear Regression Oscillator that was 
      peppered with the number 13.&nbsp; Honestly, Ton, you should be ashamed of 
      your behavior!</FONT></DIV>
      <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Dancing the monkey on a string,</FONT></DIV>
      <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Steve Karnish<BR>Cedar Creek Trading<BR><A 
      href="http://www.cedarcreektrading.com";>http://www.cedarcreektrading.com</A></FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>Rudolf,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>Install the T-Clock program(TCLEX121.EXE) and than get back to 
me with the pictures.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2><A 
href="http://users.iafrica.com/d/da/dalen";>http://users.iafrica.com/d/da/dalen</A></FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Below a picture showing&nbsp;the "extended&nbsp;with date" 
Windows' clock and my settings for this utillity.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Once installed, you cannot do without. That happens to me at 
work, when asked&nbsp;for the date, and</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>now with your scripts VBA problem, 'automatically' I am 
assuming that you have the date visuality</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>as well.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Have cc-ed this mail to the List as well, for others to 
enjoy.</FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><BR><FONT size=2>Regards,<BR>Ton Maas<BR><A 
href="mailto:ms-irb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>ms-irb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx</A><BR>Dismiss the 
".nospam" bit (including the dot) when replying and<BR>note the new address 
change. Also for my Homepage<BR><A 
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<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>TClockEx<BR>Copyright (c) 1998 Dale Nurden<BR>All Rights 
Reserved</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Version 1.2.1</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2><BR>This program is Freeware. Please use and distribute with 
my pleasure!<BR>See the accompanying help file, TCLOCKEX.HLP, for conditions of 
use and<BR>the disclaimer message.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2><BR>TClockEx enhances the standard Windows 95/98/NT clock that 
is built into<BR>the taskbar, providing the ability to display the time AND date 
in any<BR>format you choose.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>For more information, visit <A 
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<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>To contact the author, send email to <A 
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href="mailto:dalen@xxxxxxxxxx";>dalen@xxxxxxxxxx</A></FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>If email makes you nervous, send snail mail to:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Dale Nurden<BR>14 Willow Crescent<BR>Pinetown 3610<BR>South 
Africa</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>TO INSTALL THIS PROGRAM...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>If you downloaded the full version (TCLEX121.EXE) with 
install/uninstall<BR>support, just run the file you downloaded and follow the 
prompts.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>If you downloaded the reduced version (TCLEX121.ZIP) 
without<BR>install/uninstall support, unzip the file you downloaded into a 
suitable<BR>folder, then run TCLOCKEX.EXE.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Note that the only difference between the reduced and full 
versions is<BR>that the full version includes install/uninstall support. 
Otherwise<BR>they're identical.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>Dale Nurden<BR>September 1998<BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Example of TClockEx Properties<BR>&nbsp;<BR>Date/Time 
Format<BR>Date: Show 
date&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
Show date first<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Custom format: 
ddd-d MMM<BR>Time: Show time&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Custom format: HH:mm</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT 
size=2>======================================================</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>----- Original Message ----- </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>From: rudolf stricker &lt;<A 
href="mailto:rst@xxxxxxxxxxx";>rst@xxxxxxxxxxx</A>&gt;</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>To: A.J. Maas &lt;<A 
href="mailto:anthmaas@xxxxxxxxx";>anthmaas@xxxxxxxxx</A>&gt;</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Sent: vrijdag 14 januari 2000 20:38</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Subject: Re: how to improve generalization in system 
optimization</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV><BR><FONT size=2>Hi Ton,<BR><BR>thank you much for your 
engagement on my Excel / clock problem.<BR><BR>On Thu, 13 Jan 2000 22:14:47 
+0100, you wrote:<BR><BR>&gt;Just send me a couple of example pictures of the 
clock-results of the "wrongdoer".<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;This should not be that 
difficult if you have a program like Word/Excel to Paste to.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;- 
ALT+PRINTSCREEN is a picture of the active window<BR>&gt;- PRINTSCREEN is a 
picture of the screen(wide)<BR>&gt;- These pictures should 
show:<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
a.&nbsp; - first picture the proper 
display<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
b.&nbsp; - then second pictur the incorrect display<BR>&gt;- then just Paste 
clipboard contents into a Word or Excel file.<BR>&gt;- Save files as a GIF file 
to disk<BR>&gt;- then Insert or Attach (in)to OE50 mail.<BR><BR>I do not 
understand, what kind of screen shots might be helpful to<BR>identify the 
wrongdoer.<BR><BR>Using Win98, I normally see only Windows' time-of-day (not the 
date)<BR>at the screen. The present date is only indicated, if I put the 
cursor<BR>at the time-of-day shown. If the correct date is set and I start 
my<BR>system test VBA code, I can test the correct date via moving the<BR>cursor 
at the appropriate place.<BR><BR>When the VBA code is running for some time, 
working at the different<BR>Excel sheets, I test the date again by moving the 
cursor<BR>appropriately, and the date has changed. But I cannot see the 
exact<BR>changing process of the date to get an idea, which part of the 
VBA<BR>code or which Excel calculation might be responsible for the 
erroneous<BR>date change.<BR><BR>This way I'm not sure, what kind of screen 
shots could be helpful to<BR>identify the wrongdoer. -Or is ther any capability 
to display<BR>continuously the (changing) date? -&nbsp; Any hint?<BR><BR>mfg 
rudolf stricker<BR>| Disclaimer: The views of this user are strictly his 
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