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<DIV><FONT size=2>All federal buildings that are tall enough have a 13th
floor. Few or no private sector building in the US have a 13th
floor. The floor numbers go from 12 to 14. Next time you are in a
private sector building and are on the 14th floor, you are really on the 13th
floor.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>I've read that the origin of 13 being an unlucky number stems
from the last supper when 13 males shared the meal. However the story
doesn't count the servants who served the meal.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Concerning 14 being the magic number for RSI and other
oscillators; There is nothing very special about these numbers. For
particular instruments, other numbers may give better results.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>So much for magical numbers and superstitions.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Lionel Issen</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
A.J. Maas
</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
href="mailto:metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";
title=metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>Metastock-List</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, January 15, 2000 4:39
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Fib MA's and the
S&P</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>No, not a single one of my own developped indicators carries
the 13 number in it.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>****Since I have found </FONT><FONT size=2>13 to be
the unlucky number, eg this based
(like fib) on historical hypes,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>myths, </FONT><FONT size=2>anecdotes </FONT><FONT
size=2>and </FONT><FONT size=2>other historical rhymes and
riddles that over and over again have proved</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>this view </FONT><FONT size=2>to be true, will
naturally not use 13 in financial/trade systems. Especialy when it
also</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>falls on a black(cat) Friday and I have to leave the house
noticing that the window cleaner's ladder</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>is blocking the door.****</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Sub Seriously.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2> T</FONT><FONT size=2>he closest I
get </FONT><FONT size=2>to is either the basic 10, the basic 14 (standard in
f.i. RSI) or the basic 15.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2> Below is a partial print of
that mail that I sent you.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2> If your ma's + numbers in your
ma's makes you melt from their "dazzling visual
support/resistance",</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2> than keep </FONT><FONT size=2>in
mind </FONT><FONT size=2>that the sequence's parts that you did used
and not left out, are </FONT><FONT size=2>so much equal
close</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2> to </FONT><FONT size=2>the decimal
fractals, eg thus </FONT><FONT size=2>not fib numbers giving your
indicators their validity </FONT><FONT size=2>but the
straight</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2> forward </FONT><FONT
size=2>"theached-at-any-primary-school" Decimal System's
calculations systematics </FONT><FONT size=2>and
methods.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2> Next up, you believers,
are going to bring Van Gogh's used painting methods into the trading
attributes</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2> and patterns as well. I can
see it already in front of me, "the Van Gogh price crunching
patterns tell</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2> this and that bla bla
bla".</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>End Sub.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Dino, Leno and Nino</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>I can just imagine you in these places standing there with
your fib-calculator in your hand, timing when</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>the breaks/resting pauzes </FONT><FONT size=2>were
due.</FONT><FONT size=2></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Sure you don't have them mixed with the
famous TV-presentators, cartoon-heros and Hollywood
stars/singers?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </FONT></FONT><BR>Regards,<BR>Ton
Maas<BR><A
href="mailto:ms-irb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>ms-irb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx</A><BR>Dismiss
the ".nospam" bit (including the dot) when replying and<BR>note the new
address change. Also for my Homepage<BR><A
href="http://home.planet.nl/~anthmaas";>http://home.planet.nl/~anthmaas</A></DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT
size=2>------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Tho, I am getting myself programmed to act according to a
Buy/Sell indicator.<BR>This then can either be the ELWAVE or another indicator
which I am currently testing within<BR> Excel (and as yet cannot be fully
implemented in a program like Metatstock).<BR>I have already been testing this
for over a year now and this indicator will be a<BR>plain On/Off
indicator(biwave) with signal crossings of and made by a current
positive<BR>Trend indication and a current negative Trend indication.<BR><BR>A
workable duplicate -tho this one is based on LinReg and slightly later
signaling- is the<BR>following biwave "TM - RALLY Meter - LJ2"
indicator:<BR><BR>If(((LinearReg(C,14)/Ref(LinearReg(C,14),-9))-1)>-0.002,+1,-1)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>{Indicator + formula are copyrighted by Ton Maas - MsIRB -
the Netherlands}<BR><BR>This is very well to be used with the "TM - RALLY
Meter - Osc" indicator(also based on<BR>LinReg) wich I have mailed to you
before: <BR><BR>(LinearReg(C,14)/Ref(LinearReg(C,14),-14))-1<BR>{as the
trigger overlay use with a smoothed version, eg a SMA5.<BR><FONT
size=2>Indicator + formula are copyrighted by Ton Maas - MsIRB - the
Netherlands}<BR></FONT><BR>Hope this all answered your mails questions and
that you have been able to ride the<BR>S&P's restanding move upwards with
for you the required $ gains,<BR><BR>Regards,<BR>Ton Maas<BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT
size=2>============================================<BR></DIV></FONT>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A href="mailto:kernish@xxxxxxxxxxxx"; title=kernish@xxxxxxxxxxxx>Steve
Karnish</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
href="mailto:metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";
title=metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</A> ; <A
href="mailto:realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";
title=realtraders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>RTList</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> vrijdag 14 januari 2000
5:06</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Fib MA's and the
S&P</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Ton,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Sorry, it took a while to respond. I was
working the Ag Exposition in Spokane, WA. I hung a sign in the
convention arena, danced a monkey around on a string, and while the crowd
was being misdirected, I lifted all their wallets. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>The fibonacci moving averages are posted for
pure amusement (you know, just like the monkey). I have a real simple
mind and I'm easily fooled. I'm totally amused by dropping a "fib"
moving average template on a chart and seeing all the little "coinky
dinkies". Ton, I like these averages. I think they're more fun
than 10, 20, 50, 100 or whatever makes you giggle. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I make my living (the wallet stealing
part) by employing a consistent, simple, mechanical system to all the
markets that I trade. This "system" features momentum oscillators. And, Oh
God,</FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2> it has one or two or three (dare I say)
"fibonacci numbers" imbedded in the damn formula. "I mean the shame of
it all!" Fib numbers violating the integrity of a sound momentum
oscillator. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Ton, you must have missed my stirring
historical review of Fibonacci's trip to Egypt, his lovers, and other
antidotes. It was all related to me in a bar in Detroit (circa 1981)
by one of his descended. I forget if it was Leno, Dino, or Nino
Fibonacci (three brothers who you want on your team when the
chairs start flying). If anyone still has that post, please share
it with Ton. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Meanwhile, I'll be mechanically trading for a
friends, relatives, and a couple of guys whose names end with a vowel.
And Ton, shame on you if you use 13 in any of your formulas. Didn't
you send me a Linear Regression Oscillator that was peppered with the number
13. Honestly, Ton, you should be ashamed of your
behavior!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Dancing the monkey on a string,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Steve Karnish<BR>Cedar Creek Trading<BR><A
href="http://www.cedarcreektrading.com";>http://www.cedarcreektrading.com</A></FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Product that MS delivers is far superior and as far
as an operating system goes, there is no other game in town. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Should a company be penalized for producing
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I'll throw in my 2 cents.
A ceast and desist and clear statement of which practices should be stopped,
is all that should be needed in this case. Judges have done that in the
past. I think it would be adequate at this time, yet leaves the door open to
other future actions by the court if they are needed. I hope the Justice
Dept and Microsoft can resolve this without going to draconian actions.
Under such an order, Microsoft would be forced to be sensitive to competitor
issues as well as OEM issues.
Kevin Campbell
In a message dated 1/15/00 12:48:25 PM Central Standard Time, AIB@xxxxxxxxxxx
writes:
> Product that MS delivers is far superior and as far as an operating system
> goes, there is no other game in town.
> Should a company be penalized for producing superior products??
>
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