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-I forgot to mention that the Windows clock can also be accessed
through right clicking.
-The Dos clock is not visable to user, eg it can only be "accessed"
via the common DOS commands run from the DOS prompt.
Please provide more information. Please be more precise and precise in detail.
Describe better all your actions, program details and file details.
for example the following:
1. "my system tests in Excel"
Ok so you run Excel, and in Excel you have Excel run your "system test".
1a. What do you mean by a "system test" ?
1b. Is this a worksheet, a workbook, a macro?
1c. Or are your actions envoked in Windows and only calling on the Excel program
when it is needed in your test?
1d. Who originated/wrote your test?
1e. What are his/hers programming skills?
etc.etc.
2. "Changes to the _date_ are made in accordance to the date of the system test"
What do you mean by "to the_date_" ?
2a. Is that to a date function in a spreadsheet's cell ?
2b. Is your script at that same time still in Excel/VBA?
2c Is your script at that same time back in Windows/WinScript/VB/VBScript?
2d. Is that envoked within an Excel script(macro), where this than will be running in
Excel's Visual Basic for Aplications(VBA) mode (VBA in Excel is Excel dependant) ?
2e. Is that envoked in Visual Basic (VB) (VB is a stand alone program) ?
2f . Is that envoked in a Windows script (WinScript) (ScriptIt is a stand alone program) ?
2g. Is that envoked in a Visual Basic Script (VBScript) (VBScript is stand alone) ?
etc. etc.
3. "my Excel/VB procedures"
Now what exactly are you running and what is running simulantainously?
3a. VB calling on the Excel-program
3b. VBA working in Excel
3c. VBA working in Excel and calling on Windows?
etc. etc.
4. "step through an out-of-sample"
4a. what do you mean by "out-of-sample"?
4b. what are these steps? in what program executed?
4c. what is active and what is not active, eg programs, windows, scripts?
etc.etc.
5. "back-test"
5a. what are you back testing? Data cells in Excel or a stand alone system
that makes use of data in Excel cells?
5b. what program(s) do you use for this?
5c. is that also using the DDE and/or OLE functionalities of
Windows and/or Excel and/or other program(s) ?
6. "The time-of-day is untouched"
If the time is untouched, than what commands are send to the clock
and by whom and from where/which script?(see above questions)
Regards,
Ton Maas
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----- Original Message -----
From: rudolf stricker <lists@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: zaterdag 8 januari 2000 22:19
Subject: Re: how to improve generalization in system optimization
>
> Thank you for jumping in!
>
> On Sat, 8 Jan 2000 19:23:01 +0100, you wrote:
>
> >-Your PC -main- clock can only be accessed via your BIOS software on start up
> > (the CMos settings software, eg the Computer Management operating system)
> > and this clock is usualy stored in a chip (most will have it "baked" in a chip itself)
> > on the motherboard, and it runs on the on the motherboard build (tiny round flat) battery.
>
> As a typical (stupid) Windows user, I have to admit that I didn't
> make a difference between all those clocks. What I'm talking about is
> what I see, and that seemingly is the Windows clock:
>
> >-Your Windows clock (protected mode) can be accessed via the Window's Control Panel,
> > via the Window's RUN box(Win Prompt) and via the Window's VDOS box(VDOS Prompt).
> > It gets its information from the real PC clock(above), and presents this as though it is
> > the PC clock(eg a VPC clock, a virtual clock), now on your DeskTop (eg thus in Windows).
> >
> >-Your DOS clock (real mode) can be accesed via the DOS prompt, eg with the DATE and
> > TIME commands.
>
> Can you please tell me, what DOS could be? ...B-))...
>
> >Excel doesn't get mentioned here, because it is only getting "information" from Windows
> >and its Window's clock, eg it cannot directly access the Windows clock, let alone your
> >PC clock, let alone your PC's BIOS.
> >It is "read only" information given by Windows.
>
> That imo is the way it _should_ work, but it's not in accordance to
> reality.
>
> Again and again my system tests in Excel make changes to the Windows
> clock. To be more precise: Changes to the _date_ are made in
> accordance to the date of the system test when my Excel/VB procedures
> step through an out-of-sample back-test. The time-of-day is untouched.
>
> It may be unbelievable, but this effect shows up at least on two
> computers (Win NT and Win98) and two versions of Excel (97 and 2000).
>
> mfg rudolf stricker
> | Disclaimer: The views of this user are strictly his own.
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