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RE: Volatility bands on Osc's


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  • Subject: RE: Volatility bands on Osc's
  • From: "Bob Jagow" <bjagow@xxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 13:35:13 -0400 (EDT)
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<DIV><FONT color=#000080 face=Arial><SPAN 
class=250160302-16061999>Walter,</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000080 face=Arial><SPAN class=250160302-16061999>&nbsp; The 
only thing I'd&nbsp;<SPAN class=78011917-16061999>question</SPAN> is which ATR 
type and period&nbsp;<SPAN class=78011917-16061999>to</SPAN> 
use.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=250160302-16061999></SPAN><FONT color=#000080 
face=Arial>&nbsp;</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000080 face=Arial><SPAN class=250160302-16061999>The built in 
Wilder ATR&nbsp;uses 'his EMA', so the period is long [ 14 gives a true EMA of 
27].</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=250160302-16061999></SPAN><FONT color=#000080 
face=Arial>&nbsp;</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000080 face=Arial><SPAN class=250160302-16061999>Chandre used 
a SMA of the TR for volatility-based stops, and I'd bet that is what 
Brown&nbsp;uses.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=250160302-16061999></SPAN><FONT color=#000080 
face=Arial>&nbsp;</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000080 face=Arial><SPAN class=250160302-16061999>A&nbsp;custom 
formula for the ATR (SMA or EMA) is</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=250160302-16061999><FONT color=#000080 
face=Arial>Len:=Input("Periods",1,400,89);<BR>(Mov((H - L +&nbsp; Abs(H - 
Ref(C,-1)) + Abs(L - Ref(C,-1)) ),len,E))/2 <BR></FONT></DIV></SPAN>
<DIV><SPAN class=250160302-16061999></SPAN><FONT color=#000080 
face=Arial>&nbsp;</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000080 face=Arial><SPAN 
class=250160302-16061999>Bob</SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 face=Arial size=2><A 
href="mailto:bjagow@xxxxxxx";>bjagow@xxxxxxx</A></FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
  <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader><FONT face="Times New Roman" 
  size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> 
  owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]<B>On 
  Behalf Of</B> Walter Lake<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, June 15, 1999 6:34 
  PM<BR><B>To:</B> metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: Volatility 
  bands on Osc's<BR><BR></DIV></FONT>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>Hi Bob</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>You're absolutely right.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>Any suggestions on programming Brown's volatility bands into 
  either Excel or Metastock?</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>==============</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>{Is there a range of coefficients given in her book? 
  The<BR>CoefficientDown(2.1) and CoefficientUp(2.3) get inserted into the 
  formulas<BR>below, just like in 
  Metastock.}<BR><BR>Plot1[[Average[[RSI[Close,14]],6]]+[Coefup*[Average[TrueRangeCustom[[RSI[Clo<BR>se<BR>,14]],[RSI[Close,14]],[RSI[Close14]]],15]]],"Plot1"];<BR><BR>{The 
  code separates True Range into 2 parts: first the True Range then 
  the<BR>Average. Whereas in Metastock you only use ATR. What is the input for 
  the<BR>average and the ATR? 6 and 
  15?}<BR><BR>Plot2[[Average[[RSI[Close,14]],6]]-[Coefdwn*[Average[TrueRangeCustom[[RSI[Cl<BR>os<BR>e,14]],[RSI[Close,14]],[RSI[Close,14]]],15]]],"Plot2"];<BR><BR>{As 
  Adam suggested, the ATR will probably be calculated on the price and<BR>then 
  applied to the RSI 
  indicator}<BR><BR>Plot3[[RSI[Close,14]],"Plot3"];<BR><BR>=======</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>Best regards</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=2>Walter</FONT></DIV>
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    <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
    <DIV 
    style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> 
    Bob Jagow </DIV>
    <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A 
    href="mailto:metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx"; 
    title=metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</A> </DIV>
    <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, June 15, 1999 3:45 
    PM</DIV>
    <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: Volatility bands on 
    Osc's</DIV>
    <DIV><BR></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT color=#000080 face=Arial>Walter,</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT color=#000080 face=Arial>&nbsp;My Kaufman shows</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT color=#000080 face=Arial>&nbsp;2) H today&nbsp; - C 
    yesterday&nbsp; <FONT color=#ff0000>not</FONT></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT color=#ff0000 face=Arial>&nbsp;2) H today - L yesterday 
    <BR></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT color=#000080 face=Arial>With that change, all three of those 
    defs are identical, leaving OT alone in left field.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT color=#000080 face=Arial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT color=#000080 face=Arial>Bob<BR><BR></FONT><FONT 
    face=Arial><BR><BR></DIV></FONT>
    <P><FONT size=2><FONT face=Arial size=3><A 
    href="mailto:bjagow@xxxxxxx";>bjagow@xxxxxxx</A> &lt;<A 
    href="mailto:bjagow@xxxxxxx"; 
    target=_blank>mailto:bjagow@xxxxxxx</A>&gt;<BR><BR><BR>-----Original 
    Message-----<BR>From: <A 
    href="mailto:owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</A><BR>[<A 
    href="mailto:owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx"; 
    target=_blank>mailto:owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</A>]On Behalf Of Walter 
    Lake<BR>Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 1999 11:54 AM<BR>To: 
    metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<BR>Subject: Re: Volatility bands on 
    Osc's<BR><BR><BR>Hi Bob<BR><BR>Yep ... Page 82 of the OT systems book. This 
    was part of the system that OT<BR>sold as an insert into 
    MetaStock.<BR><BR>Anyway ... here are three more definitions of True 
    Range<BR><BR>Kaufman refers to Wilder's DM or Directional Movement as True 
    Range, i.e.<BR>the larger of<BR>1) H today - L today<BR>2) H today - L 
    yesterday <BR>3) C yesterday - L today<BR><BR><BR>&gt;From the Metastock 
    Custom formula collection: The Volatility Index (VI) is<BR>described by 
    Wilder as:<BR>VI Today = (13 * VI Prev + TR1) / 14 *where TR1 is today's 
    true range.<BR>He defines the true range as the greatest of the 
    following:<BR>The distance from today's high to today's low<BR>The distance 
    from yesterday's close to today's high, or<BR>The distance from yesterday's 
    close to today's low.<BR><BR><BR>Schwager's True Range = True High less True 
    Low<BR>True High = max of H today and the previous days C (whichever is 
    greater)<BR>True Low = min of L today and previous days C<BR>(whichever is 
    less)<BR><BR>Best regards<BR><BR>Walter<BR><BR>-</FONT>---- Original Message 
    -----<BR>From: Bob Jagow &lt;bjagow@xxxxxxx&gt;<BR>To: 
    &lt;metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx&gt;<BR>Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 1999 12:03 
    PM<BR>Subject: RE: Volatility bands on Osc's<BR><BR><BR>&gt; TR isn't based 
    on the open, Walter.<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; Did OT publish that? No wonder it 
    makes such amazing calls :o)<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; bjagow@xxxxxxx &lt;<A 
    href="mailto:bjagow@xxxxxxx"; 
    target=_blank>mailto:bjagow@xxxxxxx</A>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; 
    -----Original Message-----<BR>&gt; From: 
    owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<BR>&gt; [<A 
    href="mailto:owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx"; 
    target=_blank>mailto:owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</A>]On Behalf Of Walter 
    Lake<BR>&gt; Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 1999 7:33 AM<BR>&gt; To: 
    metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<BR>&gt; Subject: Re: Volatility bands on 
    Osc's<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; Adam, Lenny, Laurent, et all<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; 
    Here's the code for the Omni Trader Volatility Breakout System. It 
    has<BR>True<BR>&gt; Range separated from the Average.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; "... 
    the following calculations are made to arrive at the 
    Volatility<BR>Bands:<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; If<BR>&gt; P = Periods used<BR>&gt; 
    Range = Breakout Percentage (that is, 150 = 150%)<BR>&gt; Then<BR>&gt; R1 = 
    ABS(O today -C today)<BR>&gt; R2 = ABS(O today - C yesterday)<BR>&gt; TR = 
    Greater of R1, R2 {True Range calculation)<BR>&gt; AVGTR = Average of TR of 
    P periods<BR>&gt;<BR><BR></FONT></P></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML></x-html>From ???@??? Wed Jun 16 11:07:04 1999
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Gary writes:

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