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Since your attempt here to explain the Windows OS environment is
somewhat right but not exactly precise, find some of the "corrected"
parts below.
Regards,
Ton Maas
ms-irb@xxxxxx
----- Original Message -----
From: Rajat Bose <rajatkbose@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: donderdag 25 maart 1999 5:49
Subject: Re: General Protection fault - FM. South Africa
> Hi NAD,
>
> Regarding your first problem I think others have already solved the
> problem. I would like to share some of my findings about your second
> problem: Genral Protection Fault (GPF).
>
> This is a fairly common problem with all versions of Windows. Though you
> would get the message that the program has performed some illegal
> operation and Windows is closing down or a straight GPF message at
> certain memory address.
This is not a fairly common problem in the Windows Operating System,
but is ONLY related to problems caused by OTHER software programs using the
Windows OS-environment and happen when these programs are "attacking"
on the processor's memory pages capacities or auto-create invalid actions
(like closing down "writing" problems) that would cause damages done to
the Processor and/or to the BIOS and/or to the NTSF / FAT-files(eg the hard-disc
file, depending on the OS being used).
These "malfunctioning" other programs' actions are rightious PROTECTED by the
Windows' OS and this is explicitely present to saving you, the user, from any costly
damages done to the "hardware", that can lead into replacing the costly hardware
(bios, processor, disc) or having to re-install the discs' OS again.
>One reapeated occurrence, you are asked to contact the program vendor.
Right you should, if any of your own attempts in trying to fix the core problem(s) that
have caused or are causing the invalid action(GPF), in the first place, have failed.
> However, the problem lies more with any other software than the software
> in question. In Windows memory allocation system certain hierarchies are
> there for different types of programs. When a program normally meant for
> lower hierarchy memory address tries to access or have already accessed
> a higher level memory address the problem occurs.
Apart from the above described reason as to why GPF's or invalid actions ocure,
it then happens to/on any OS system, no matter what system is being used, eg will
it be the BIOS, old DOS, UNIX, Linux, Apple etc., as they (the OS) are at that time
"the controlers" over the hardware and (only policing) their environment.
> There is no cure for this problem as of now.
Ofcourse there is a cure !!!
Cure is to find out the reason why the GPF or invalid actions are caused in the first
place. These GPF or invalid actions can for instance happen, when you try to save
a file, and the saving here should be read as 1. writing to disc and 2. shutting down
the program.
Then from this saving, if your file contains your own "faulty" instructions, eg instructions
that are impossible to be processed, eg the illegal operations, these then can be due
to your "impossible at that time" wrong alterations made to the to be saved file and/or
due to your program manufacturers' faulty "writing the code", eg program code with
"faulty" instructions.
For example, the very first Metastock "Patch-up to 6.52a" failure editions(1+2) patched
up files contained the wrong writing code (Apart from the Patch's process themselves),
and results were GPF or invalid actions (and other missing "this and thats").
> As of now, all you can do is to have larger RAM available
There is a limit as to how much larger RAM will still work as a solution for systems'
memory shortage only. Basicaly, installing 128Mb for Win95 is installing 64Mb too many.
The overflow-ing Memory RAM larger than 64Mb will automaticaly (see below) have it
dump the "overflow" (get written) in (to) the "Win386.swp" file, eg the SWAP-file also
known as (the) virtual memory (file-found in the Drive's Main folder).
> and load less of memory resident programs.
This is only one way of freeing some of the OS's system resources(memory) that
would otherwise be in use, but is not the cure to solve GPF or invalid actions(see above).
> Increase RAM so far as practicable. Second, have atleast four
> times of free hard disk space in which Windows creates its swap file.
Increase RAM to maximum of 64Mb(for Win95 OS) only, more will not be used
(at all or not that often) by the OS.
The maximum free available space required for the virtual memory file(SWAP-file,
see above) only has to be twice(2x) the size of the installed physical RAM(see above),
eg 64Mb RAM is always a maximum SWAP-file's size of 128Mb.
Alternatively, you can also set the maximum virtual memory(SWAP-file) size, by
switching off the control that Win95 standard automaticaly has over this (virtual
memory) feature, this can be done on the Performance TAB (Control Panel|System|
Performance|Virtual Memory) and use the option that is given to manualy control
the SWAP-file's size to a fixed setting, eg the 128Mb can here then be set to 150Mb,
and can even be set to a seperate <for the SWAP-file alone> partition, eg a Drive X
of 150Mb (max).
Microsoft does not recommend untrained users to alter this option, other than to
keep it at the standard Automaticaly (maintained by Win95 OS) pre-set option,
installed by the Windows 95 Set-Up program. (source Microsoft Knowledge Base).
> I was facing this problem with MetaStock 6.5 while using that on a
> Compaq Presario 2200 with 44MB RAM and 160 MB free space on the disk.
> This problem becomes severe when you are using other big programs like
> MS EXCEL and/or MS WORD along with MetaStock 6.5 and you switch among
> them quite often.
Excel,Word, (any Picture Programs) Scanner,Printer,Image and Graphical like
Metastock are standard basicaly memory consuming programs (these programs'
operating program files alone are stack-filled with the enourmous amount of "writing+
codes", eg the instructions for these programs' (executionable) general usages.
But also very memory consuming are their "other" (the working files+contents) that
are being/getting loaded, eg the working file(s) that are then being used for viewing
or altering etc. purposes.
> If you require more technical details, I can provide that to the extent
> I can. If my suggestion helps it would be very nice.
>
> Thanks
>
> Rajat K Bose
===========================================
> --- NAD <nad@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > Please can u assist. I have just tried to download
> > (3days) when I get this information window showing
> > that it is going to download 64 days.
> > However, when retrieving a chart the data in the
> > chart show until the last update i.e.. 3 days ago.
> > It can not find a certain file and therefor trying to
> > download the last 64 days. I have had this problem
> > before , but can not remember how I fixed it, must
> > have been by pure luck!!!
> > If I just try to update from the Update Utility the
> > following error message
> > General Protection Fault :Metastoc.dll@xxxx:ocif
> > running Metatstock 6.5 on Windows 95
> > Please can u assist
> > Thanks
> > Dee
> > South Africa
> >
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> <DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>Please can u assist. I have just
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> <DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>However, when retrieving a chart the
> data in the
> chart show until the last update i.e.. 3 days ago.</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT size=2>It can not find a certain file and therefor trying to
> download
> the last 64 days. I have had this problem before , but can not remember
> how I
> fixed it, must have been by pure luck!!!</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT size=2>If I just try to update from the Update Utility the
> following
> error message</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT size=2> General Protection Fault
> :Metastoc.dll@xxxx:ocif</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT size=2>running Metatstock 6.5 on Windows 95</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT size=2>Please can u assist</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT size=2>Thanks</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT size=2>Dee</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT size=2>South Africa</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>
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