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<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>I cant speak for others.......but I like to read 
these kind of discussions.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2></FONT><FONT size=2>Also, if you have code, 
please post it for all of us. Thank you.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2><BR>&nbsp; Best 
wishes,<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Adam Hefner.<BR><A 
href="mailto:VonHef@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>VonHef@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</A> </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><B>-----Original Message-----</B><BR><B>From: 
    </B>Glen Wallace &lt;<A 
    href="mailto:gcwallace@xxxxxxxx";>gcwallace@xxxxxxxx</A>&gt;<BR><B>To: 
    </B>MetaStock listserver &lt;<A 
    href="mailto:metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx</A>&gt;<BR><B>Date: 
    </B>Tuesday, February 09, 1999 7:17 PM<BR><B>Subject: </B>Re: Bill Williams 
    and Listserver etiquette<BR><BR></DIV></FONT>
    <DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>Matt (and others?):</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2>Is it customary here to take this kind of discussion 
    private with the few people who expressed interest?&nbsp; I don't want to 
    clutter the Listserver with stuff in which others have no interest.&nbsp; 
    Also, I notice there is a delay of 60-80 minutes between when I send a 
    message and when it posts on the Listserver.&nbsp; Is there a faster way to 
    post?</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2>I have to tidy up my fractal signal code and will send it 
    tomorrow.&nbsp; I modified it pretty heavily during 
backtesting.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>Regards.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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        <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><B>-----Original 
        Message-----</B><BR><B>From: </B>Matt Bowen &lt;<A 
        href="mailto:bowenarrow@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>bowenarrow@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx</A>&gt;<BR><B>To: 
        </B>metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
        &lt;<A 
        href="mailto:metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</A>&gt;<BR><B>Date: 
        </B>February 9, 1999 16:03<BR><B>Subject: </B>Re: Bill Williams' 
        Profitunity indicators<BR><BR></DIV></FONT>
        <DIV>Glen did you see the message I sent you earlier?</DIV>
        <DIV>You said:</DIV>
        <DIV><STRONG>The fractal buy and sell signals, however, signal the 
        initial entry.&nbsp; </STRONG></DIV>
        <DIV><STRONG>It was with this that I got interesting 
        results</STRONG></DIV>
        <DIV>Let me know if you still have the system test. I would like to 
        see</DIV>
        <DIV>what kind of results you get using the fractals as the initial 
        setup.</DIV>
        <DIV>(See the not below)</DIV>
        <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
        <DIV>Best Regards, Matt</DIV>
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            <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- 
            <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A 
            href="mailto:bowenarrow@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx"; 
            title=bowenarrow@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>Matt Bowen</A> </DIV>
            <DIV><B>To:</B> <A href="mailto:metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx"; 
            title=metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</A> ; <A 
            href="mailto:metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx"; 
            title=metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>MetaStock listserver</A> </DIV>
            <DIV><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, February 09, 1999 12:21 PM</DIV>
            <DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: Bill Williams' Profitunity 
            indicators</DIV></DIV>
            <DIV><BR></DIV>
            <DIV>Hi Glen,</DIV>
            <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
            <DIV>No I didn't test them that way and don't have a copy of the 
            book handy.</DIV>
            <DIV>I was at borders last Saturday having coffee and was reading 
            the book, </DIV>
            <DIV>so I decided to fire-up my laptop and plug them in while 
            reading the book.</DIV>
            <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
            <DIV>I would very much like to see the system you coded for 
            MS...</DIV>
            <DIV>Do you know how to use the Formula Organizer Wizard in 
MS?</DIV>
            <DIV>If so, export the system test to a Ms65form.dta file and I will 
            copy it</DIV>
            <DIV>on to my system. (This is always the best way to a system via 
            e-mail)</DIV>
            <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
            <DIV>Best Regards, Matt</DIV>
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                <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- 
                <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> 
                <A href="mailto:gcwallace@xxxxxxxx"; 
                title=gcwallace@xxxxxxxx>Glen Wallace</A> </DIV>
                <DIV><B>To:</B> <A href="mailto:metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx"; 
                title=metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>MetaStock listserver</A> 
                </DIV>
                <DIV><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, February 09, 1999 11:13 AM</DIV>
                <DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: Bill Williams' Profitunity 
                indicators</DIV></DIV>
                <DIV><BR></DIV>
                <DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>Matt:</FONT></DIV>
                <DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
                <DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>You mentioned that you tested 
                the Awesome Oscillator and Acc/Dec.&nbsp; I did so as well, and 
                was disappointed by the results until I realized these 
                indicators are essentially money management tools to signal an 
                add-on to an existing position.&nbsp; The fractal buy and sell 
                signals, however, signal the initial entry.&nbsp; It was with 
                this that I got interesting results.</FONT></DIV>
                <DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
                <DIV><FONT size=2>Did you do any testing of the fractal buy and 
                sell signals?</FONT></DIV>
                <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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                    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><B>-----Original 
                    Message-----</B><BR><B>From: </B>Matt Bowen &lt;<A 
                    href="mailto:bowenarrow@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>bowenarrow@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx</A>&gt;<BR><B>To: 
                    </B><A 
                    href="mailto:metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</A> 
                    &lt;<A 
                    href="mailto:metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</A>&gt;; 
                    <A 
                    href="mailto:metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx</A> 
                    &lt;<A 
                    href="mailto:metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx</A>&gt;<BR><B>Date: 
                    </B>February 9, 1999 07:11<BR><B>Subject: </B>Re: Bill 
                    Williams' Profitunity indicators<BR><BR></DIV></FONT>
                    <DIV>
                    <DIV>Hi Glen,</DIV>
                    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
                    <DIV>I also tested the indicators for Bill's new book:</DIV>
                    <DIV>(click on book to go to Amazon)</DIV>
                    <DIV><A 
                    href="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0471295418/o/qid=918569909/sr=2-1/002-5562221-8310228";><IMG 
                    align=baseline 
                    src="cid:005201be54a6$abb93aa0$31d5fed0@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";></A>&nbsp;</DIV></DIV>
                    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
                    <DIV>IMO, the book reads well and the concepts are 
                    sound...</DIV>
                    <DIV>However, after testing the system It's not the holy 
                    grail, in fact you</DIV>
                    <DIV>could use a Moving Average system with DMA's that will 
                    produce about</DIV>
                    <DIV>2X greater profit. I tested the Awesome Oscillator 
                    alone and combined</DIV>
                    <DIV>Awesome with the Acc/Dis on the test...</DIV>
                    <DIV>I'm not knocking the book, in fact it's a good book 
                    that will help many </DIV>
                    <DIV>new traders understand (or at best show them) what it 
                    takes to produce </DIV>
                    <DIV>a winning system. The bottom line on Bill's new 
                    concepts...</DIV>
                    <DIV>They are profitable over a wide margin of stocks in 
                    database of all</DIV>
                    <DIV>NYSE, AMEX and NASDAQ stocks...</DIV>
                    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
                    <DIV>Best Regards, Matt</DIV>
                    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
                    <DIV>----- Original Message ----- 
                    <DIV>
                    <DIV>From: Glen Wallace &lt;<A 
                    href="mailto:gcwallace@xxxxxxxx";>gcwallace@xxxxxxxx</A>&gt;</DIV>
                    <DIV>To: &lt;<A 
                    href="mailto:metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx</A>&gt;</DIV>
                    <DIV>Sent: Monday, February 08, 1999 8:51 PM</DIV>
                    <DIV>Subject: Bill Williams' Profitunity 
                    indicators</DIV></DIV>
                    <DIV><BR></DIV>&gt;My first post here.&nbsp; I'm quite new 
                    to this listserver, so this is probably a<BR>&gt;&quot;been 
                    there, done that&quot; but ......<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;Is anyone 
                    interested in comparing notes on Bill Williams' 
                    Profitunity<BR>&gt;system?&nbsp; I wrote the Formula 
                    Language code for most of the New Trading<BR>&gt;Dimensions 
                    indicators and did some pretty extensive walk-forward 
                    testing of<BR>&gt;the fractal buy and sell signals.&nbsp; 
                    Interesting results and I think there is<BR>&gt;something 
                    there&nbsp; --&nbsp; maybe not the Holy Grail, but perhaps a 
                    nice, 
        pewter<BR>&gt;grail.<BR>&gt;</DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
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