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<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>Matt (and others?):</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Is it customary here to take this kind of discussion private 
with the few people who expressed interest?&nbsp; I don't want to clutter the 
Listserver with stuff in which others have no interest.&nbsp; Also, I notice 
there is a delay of 60-80 minutes between when I send a message and when it 
posts on the Listserver.&nbsp; Is there a faster way to post?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>I have to tidy up my fractal signal code and will send it 
tomorrow.&nbsp; I modified it pretty heavily during backtesting.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>Regards.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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style="BORDER-LEFT: #000000 solid 2px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">
    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><B>-----Original Message-----</B><BR><B>From: 
    </B>Matt Bowen &lt;<A 
    href="mailto:bowenarrow@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>bowenarrow@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx</A>&gt;<BR><B>To: 
    </B>metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
    &lt;<A 
    href="mailto:metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</A>&gt;<BR><B>Date: 
    </B>February 9, 1999 16:03<BR><B>Subject: </B>Re: Bill Williams' Profitunity 
    indicators<BR><BR></DIV></FONT>
    <DIV>Glen did you see the message I sent you earlier?</DIV>
    <DIV>You said:</DIV>
    <DIV><STRONG>The fractal buy and sell signals, however, signal the initial 
    entry.&nbsp; </STRONG></DIV>
    <DIV><STRONG>It was with this that I got interesting results</STRONG></DIV>
    <DIV>Let me know if you still have the system test. I would like to 
see</DIV>
    <DIV>what kind of results you get using the fractals as the initial 
    setup.</DIV>
    <DIV>(See the not below)</DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>Best Regards, Matt</DIV>
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        <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- 
        <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A 
        href="mailto:bowenarrow@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx"; 
        title=bowenarrow@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>Matt Bowen</A> </DIV>
        <DIV><B>To:</B> <A href="mailto:metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx"; 
        title=metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</A> ; <A 
        href="mailto:metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx"; 
        title=metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>MetaStock listserver</A> </DIV>
        <DIV><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, February 09, 1999 12:21 PM</DIV>
        <DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: Bill Williams' Profitunity 
        indicators</DIV></DIV>
        <DIV><BR></DIV>
        <DIV>Hi Glen,</DIV>
        <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
        <DIV>No I didn't test them that way and don't have a copy of the book 
        handy.</DIV>
        <DIV>I was at borders last Saturday having coffee and was reading the 
        book, </DIV>
        <DIV>so I decided to fire-up my laptop and plug them in while reading 
        the book.</DIV>
        <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
        <DIV>I would very much like to see the system you coded for MS...</DIV>
        <DIV>Do you know how to use the Formula Organizer Wizard in MS?</DIV>
        <DIV>If so, export the system test to a Ms65form.dta file and I will 
        copy it</DIV>
        <DIV>on to my system. (This is always the best way to a system via 
        e-mail)</DIV>
        <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
        <DIV>Best Regards, Matt</DIV>
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            <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- 
            <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A 
            href="mailto:gcwallace@xxxxxxxx"; title=gcwallace@xxxxxxxx>Glen 
            Wallace</A> </DIV>
            <DIV><B>To:</B> <A href="mailto:metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx"; 
            title=metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>MetaStock listserver</A> </DIV>
            <DIV><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, February 09, 1999 11:13 AM</DIV>
            <DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: Bill Williams' Profitunity 
            indicators</DIV></DIV>
            <DIV><BR></DIV>
            <DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>Matt:</FONT></DIV>
            <DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
            <DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>You mentioned that you tested the 
            Awesome Oscillator and Acc/Dec.&nbsp; I did so as well, and was 
            disappointed by the results until I realized these indicators are 
            essentially money management tools to signal an add-on to an 
            existing position.&nbsp; The fractal buy and sell signals, however, 
            signal the initial entry.&nbsp; It was with this that I got 
            interesting results.</FONT></DIV>
            <DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
            <DIV><FONT size=2>Did you do any testing of the fractal buy and sell 
            signals?</FONT></DIV>
            <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
            <BLOCKQUOTE 
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                <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><B>-----Original 
                Message-----</B><BR><B>From: </B>Matt Bowen &lt;<A 
                href="mailto:bowenarrow@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>bowenarrow@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx</A>&gt;<BR><B>To: 
                </B><A 
                href="mailto:metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</A> 
                &lt;<A 
                href="mailto:metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</A>&gt;; 
                <A 
                href="mailto:metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx</A> 
                &lt;<A 
                href="mailto:metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx</A>&gt;<BR><B>Date: 
                </B>February 9, 1999 07:11<BR><B>Subject: </B>Re: Bill Williams' 
                Profitunity indicators<BR><BR></DIV></FONT>
                <DIV>
                <DIV>Hi Glen,</DIV>
                <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
                <DIV>I also tested the indicators for Bill's new book:</DIV>
                <DIV>(click on book to go to Amazon)</DIV>
                <DIV><A 
                href="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0471295418/o/qid=918569909/sr=2-1/002-5562221-8310228";><IMG 
                align=baseline 
                src="cid:002201be548c$d523cb40$5f1c4118@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";></A>&nbsp;</DIV></DIV>
                <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
                <DIV>IMO, the book reads well and the concepts are 
sound...</DIV>
                <DIV>However, after testing the system It's not the holy grail, 
                in fact you</DIV>
                <DIV>could use a Moving Average system with DMA's that will 
                produce about</DIV>
                <DIV>2X greater profit. I tested the Awesome Oscillator alone 
                and combined</DIV>
                <DIV>Awesome with the Acc/Dis on the test...</DIV>
                <DIV>I'm not knocking the book, in fact it's a good book that 
                will help many </DIV>
                <DIV>new traders understand (or at best show them) what it takes 
                to produce </DIV>
                <DIV>a winning system. The bottom line on Bill's new 
                concepts...</DIV>
                <DIV>They are profitable over a wide margin of stocks in 
                database of all</DIV>
                <DIV>NYSE, AMEX and NASDAQ stocks...</DIV>
                <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
                <DIV>Best Regards, Matt</DIV>
                <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
                <DIV>----- Original Message ----- 
                <DIV>
                <DIV>From: Glen Wallace &lt;<A 
                href="mailto:gcwallace@xxxxxxxx";>gcwallace@xxxxxxxx</A>&gt;</DIV>
                <DIV>To: &lt;<A 
                href="mailto:metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx</A>&gt;</DIV>
                <DIV>Sent: Monday, February 08, 1999 8:51 PM</DIV>
                <DIV>Subject: Bill Williams' Profitunity indicators</DIV></DIV>
                <DIV><BR></DIV>&gt;My first post here.&nbsp; I'm quite new to 
                this listserver, so this is probably a<BR>&gt;&quot;been there, 
                done that&quot; but ......<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;Is anyone interested 
                in comparing notes on Bill Williams' 
                Profitunity<BR>&gt;system?&nbsp; I wrote the Formula Language 
                code for most of the New Trading<BR>&gt;Dimensions indicators 
                and did some pretty extensive walk-forward testing of<BR>&gt;the 
                fractal buy and sell signals.&nbsp; Interesting results and I 
                think there is<BR>&gt;something there&nbsp; --&nbsp; maybe not 
                the Holy Grail, but perhaps a nice, 
                pewter<BR>&gt;grail.<BR>&gt;</DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
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