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<P>Ed Middleton wrote:
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE>Ken,
<P>I am looking in to whether to upgrade to 6.51 and really appreciated
the
<BR>information and experience that you supplied in your posting.
<P>Since you are using Signal (I assume by the price that it is Online
and not
<BR>Stockedge) does it supply EOD data as well or are you getting that
from a
<BR>separate supplier?
<BR> </BLOCKQUOTE>
I don't know what you get in the way of EOD data with Signal OnLine.
You can get some historical stock data, but I'm not sure what else.
I never checked into it because I'm more than happy with my current supplier.
(At least for commodities.)
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE>
<BR>How well does the Signal interface with your broker work? What
I am getting
<BR>at is 2-fold. One, the Signal software has a trade button that
I assume
<BR>lauches or opens the window for your broker software. Which does
it do?</BLOCKQUOTE>
Sure...make <U>me</U> be the guinea pig! You just had to go and make
me try something new. Ok... it launches your browser. No, make
that <I>my</I> browser. It takes you/me to the DBC Trading Center,
which seems to be simply a web page with about half a dozen links to various
brokerages. I don't see DATEK, but I'm sure Signal would like
to have their link. <g> I clicked on Web Street Securities,
and ended up at http://www.webstreet.com/. Amazing.
<g>
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE>Second, does this interface with the broker work
smoothly and efficiently?</BLOCKQUOTE>
If you use DATEK w/o problems now, should be smooth sailing. I access
my accounts both thru my browser and thru broker supplied software.
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE>Let me throw you my proposed set-up for your comments:
<P>I would get EOD data from either Signal (if available) or my present
EOD
<BR>data supplier.</BLOCKQUOTE>
...with you so far...
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE>I would use MS 6.51 for EOD expolorations and system
testing.
<BR>I would get RT data from Signal and use MS 6.51 for RT explorations
and
<BR>system testing. Can you do both EOD and RT explorations at the same
time?</BLOCKQUOTE>
Hmmm. Interesting thought. Don't see why not. You're
determined to expand my mind, aren't you? I feel it only fair to
warn you that I am quite adept at resisting. Before I try what you
ask, let me say something before I lose my train of thought. (Sadly, a
frequent occurrence.) When you install MSPro, you'll end up with
two shortcuts on your desktop. (Actually, you may need to put them
there yourself.) One will say Metastock Real Time. The other
will say Metastock End Of Day. The only time you will run MS RT is
when you are connected to your real time data provider. The markets
don't need to be open necessarily, but RT seems to need to be online and
ready to pounce on that first tick, even if it ain't coming. If you
try to open it w/o being hooked up, it will fight you tooth and nail. (Geez...I'm
beginning to sound like my father..now that's a scary thought!)
But, and here's the good news, Metastock End Of Day is identical
in every way to RT. No difference. (Other than that silly collecting
of real time data thingy.) I'm no techno whiz, but I'm guessing
that when you open MSrt, the only difference between it and MSeod is that
it also launches the Equis File Server, the Equis Data Server, and in this
case, Signal's Data Manager. So, it's one program with two separate
icons. That's my theory this evening, anyway. Tomorrow I may
have a different one. One of the icons simply is a shortcut to Metastock
in it's non-real time mode, and the other icon simply launches Metastock
and several other required programs for rt data collection. (Equis,
you probably should correct me about now.) You can access both
your EOD charts and your RT charts in the EOD mode. Generally, you
will use EOD to do all of your after market analysis, including system
tests and explorations. When you're collecting rt data, i.e., running
MSrt, you can access all of your rt charts and your EOD charts, and you
can run explorations and system tests, etc. I don't want to tempt
fate, so all I run is an Expert.
<P>Back to your question: Yes, you can do both EOD and RT explorations
at the same time. At least I just did it in the EOD mode.
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE>I would use Datek On-line (good execution speed and
good commissions) for
<BR>order execution.</BLOCKQUOTE>
I agree with you on both counts, but what's wrong with those people?
Why don't they do options???
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE>Do you see any problems with the following setup
from your experience?
<P>I think that this setup will give me the best overall return versus
a canned
<BR>system such as Real Tick III. Given that the canned systems have
SOES
<BR>execution of orders; I feel that the benefit of SOES (ie reduced spread
<BR>loss) does not overcome the additonal commissions ($20-$30 versus $10)
and
<BR>software charges. The canned systems also have no where near
the complexity
<BR>of MSPro 6.51 for tech. analysis. I hope this gives you a good
<BR>understanding of how I am thinking.
<P>Any comments from others would also be appreciated.</BLOCKQUOTE>
I'm not familiar with Real Tick III, and I lean mostly towards futures,
not stocks, so I can't be much help here.
<P>Regards,
<BR>Ken
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From: "A.J. Maas" <anthmaas@xxxxxx>
To: <metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: MetaStock Update Requests
Date: Sun, 18 Oct 1998 09:46:16 +0100
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All emails used, no matter what mailprogram you are using, can be stored to disk
as ASCI TXT files, with the extension " .txt ".
If you store as " .eml " or some other mail extension, then just rename that extension
into " .txt ". Then open with Notepad(TXT 's default program).
Now you can get rid of all the mails inner mumbo jumbo, like its header etc. or join with
other mails into one big file.
Then by using WinZip, you can compress store the asci file, and what was 300kB before
gets then 90% compressed, reduced to 30kb into a zipfile. A zipfile you can treat as any other file.
In such a zipfile, you can store more and more of the "same subjects" emails as txt and then
also throw this zip(1.36Mb) on Floppy or ZipDisk.
Charts too can be also compressed saved in zips, usualy at a lesser compression rate like
50-80 % and is without any loss of data. Provided you use good zip progams, of wich WinZip
is the easiest and very fast in usage.
You'ld be suprised how many zips will fit on a floppy, and how many big files will fit in a zip, and
how many emails will fit in a big file or in a zip.
I for one can't be bothered to go out on the net to check on someone else's charts. Have especialy
joined the List as Metastock is a program about and on charts and how it factory produces these.
If charts aren't possible on the List, making it pure an administrative List, why bother joining
the List as there are plenty of administrative programs around with their own List or News groups.
Joining the Digest, textmails only, will stop you from recieving any of the valueble charts, but then,
do not start to wonder on how formulas or patterns etc. do look like, as physical FREE examples
are not available.
If I can get them home delivered, why bother going shopping. Thats modern email technology for
you, and with the HTML mails it will even get 'worse' as you can send along 'moving animating
charts', much like sending the playable gifs(as can be seen on the web and also a few times
lately on the List). It is not that many charts are received as there are "empty" emails.
Emails do take up 'x'kB in space too.
The Great Picture tells it all. You should see them as receiving free instructive demo's.
There can be as much learned from a chart as there can be from thousends of words.
Don't drive people away from an very informative List, getting it automaticaly right delivered
at your doostep as soon as you log on to send out your other mails and info.
Who then needs the web?
And why are you still using old hat Netscape? Internet Explorer these days is just as fast
as Netscape, but in handling is a lot pleasurable, has made Win95 much more pleasurable, is
implemented in Win98 and this is also very important, comes with very handy Outlook Express,
in wich you can contain your own email-warehouse/library, compressed and all.
Regards,
Ton Maas
Ms-IRB@xxxxxxxxx
-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
Van: Daniel Martinez <DanM@xxxxxxxx>
Aan: metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Datum: zaterdag 17 oktober 1998 20:19
Onderwerp: Re: MetaStock Update Requests
>Richard:
>because I have a scanner, I received free software which loads in and then
>converts different formats. I think this method is better than screen capture.
>This way, you won't get any extra objects in your chart which you don't want
>such as your cursor, toolbars, menus, etc... Your PIC's will also come out
>smaller. Because I have my own 5 MB's of personal web space, I can simply
>upload charts to it and then provide a link in my email. The best FTP software
>for uploading to your web space is FTP Explorer. http://www.tucows.com It's
>free. If your ISP didn't provide any personal web space, and most give at least
>2 MB's, you can get a free account at GeoCities or Tripod. You can even provide
>commentary with your PIC. All you need is one of the 3 top wordprocessors.
>Just write your commentary, embed your GIF, save in HTML format and upload.
>
>I think it would be more convenient if you used this method. Otherwise, you
>will be sending copies of your chart to 500 people. I personally don't mind the
>charts. However, because I now use Netscape v4.04, all charts and even
>attached files are embedded in my email (Netscape uses MIME format). I can no
>longer separate them. This means unless I completely delete the email, I'm
>stuck with an extra 50K chart or other attached files. Some of these have been
>up to 2 MB's in size. My Netscape folders have already exploded to 80 MB's and
>I won't be surprised if they grow to 200 MB's.
>
>Daniel.
>
>
>Richard Estes wrote:
>
>> I have capture software and post to other lists, it was a 43k chart, I use
>> color and numerous lines. I can't see that being a problem. Not like the jpg
>> charts formed in mswin that would run about +170k. Just trying to get Equis
>> to tell me what rules are.
>>
>> Richard Estes
>> ICQ#402160
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Steve Karnish <kernish@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Date: Friday, October 16, 1998 8:12 PM
>> Subject: Re: MetaStock Update Requests
>>
>> >Richard,
>> >The charts you see are usually gifs or jpegs reduced in size to under 20k.
>> >Download a utility program like HyperSnap to "screen capture" your charts
>> >and life will go easier for you.
>> >http://www.hyperionics.com
>> >
>> >Steve Karnish
>> >CCT
>> >
>> >----------
>> >> From: Richard Estes <rtestes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> >> To: metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >> Subject: Re: MetaStock Update Requests
>> >> Date: Friday, October 16, 1998 2:53 PM
>> >>
>> >> I would like to know why I can't post charts to this list. Have you set a
>> >> size limit? I tried fooling the program by embedded in html message,
>> >still no-go 5 hours later. I see other charts here.
>
>
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