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<DIV><STRONG><FONT color=#000000>Thank you for the reply. the speed, the ability
to run many programs, and the system test aspects sound
good.</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
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<DIV><STRONG><FONT color=#000000>But you completely lost me as ever thinking
about using it with present vendor. Since my universe is all stocks, I
want that data collected in a historical manner. A one day bit wouldn't meet my
needs. How could one system test? or explore? how could he determine
S/R? I haven't found the outside tick data source for all stocks nor would
I pay for it. </FONT></STRONG></DIV>
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<DIV><STRONG><FONT color=#000000>Glad you are seeing speed, I lived with signal
off satellite and cable for years. Speed big reason I left, and the charts were
archaic simple ones. the lack of integrated program in RT pro so that the
elements of the vendor (news, time and sales, and data fields) are present all
the time without pulling up another program would restrict me. I keep data on
about 250 stocks active in about 5 time frames (tick, 5, 10, 30, 60 min)
the other part of universe that I haven't chosen can be added by starting a
chart before doing that I only have three hours from yesterday, but starts
collecting from that time on.</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
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<DIV><STRONG><FONT color=#000000>I own the RT pro, keep praying that sweetheart
deals weren't the only vendors that it would have. It still comes
down to that. But as you pointed out, futures are different. From what I hear
quote.com has a good internet delivery for them. </FONT></STRONG><STRONG>So I
will keep it in box. </STRONG></DIV>
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<DIV><STRONG>BTW: since you have historical data, how does a MACD(13,34,89) on a
5 min chart system test? even with futures.</STRONG></DIV>
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<DIV><STRONG></STRONG><STRONG>Thanks again</STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT color=#000000>Richard
Estes<BR>ICQ#402160</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><B>-----Original Message-----</B><BR><B>From:
</B>Ken <<A
href="mailto:divenfish@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>divenfish@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</A>><BR><B>To:
</B>metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
<<A
href="mailto:metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</A>><BR><B>Date:
</B>Friday, October 16, 1998 7:36 PM<BR><B>Subject: </B>MSPro 6.51
<BR><BR></DIV></FONT>(Pardon my changing the subject title.)
<P>Richard Estes wrote:
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE = CITE>I don't have answers to your questions. But I
would like to hear from you <BR>and other users about 6.5
pro.</BLOCKQUOTE>Forgive me for my long-winded ramblings. Maybe
there's at least one thing here that will shed some light.
:-) I don't have the time to clean this up.
<P>FWIW, in general: <BR>It looks and feels just like 6.5, with the obvious
difference of collecting real time data. However, there are a couple
of changes that I've stumbled across which may or may not be of interest to
you. (At least I don't remember them being in earlier
versions.) System Testing "Options" now lets you enter
on an open (or H,L,C), and exit on a close (or O,H,L). In other words,
you're not restricted to exiting at the same entry choice. You can
also choose to exit at the actual Stop price by checking the "Exit at
Stop Price" box, rather than having to exit at the O,H,L, or
C. The position is closed at that exact stop price level, even
if you've set a trade delay.. (Trade delays are ignored if the Exit at
Stop Price box is checked.) There may be other changes, but at
the moment I don't recall noticing any. I really haven't looked very
deep. Oh yeah, the Full Screen feature no longer causes a
crash...at least not in my experience. And in the past, every now and
then my machine would dump when I opened the data Window, but no longer.
<P>One minor annoyance I have experienced is that the Price Chg doesn't work
in the End Of Day mode. (It's supposed to.) I installed the patch that
I <I>believe</I> was supposed to fix this, but it didn't work in my
case. So I plotted a price change indicator on existing charts and
also added it to the default template. Next best thing.
<P>>How you use it?
<P>Where you from? And who taught you English?
LOL. Just kidding, Richard. I drop words from e-mails all
the time. On with it...
<P>I usually have at least two real time charts open, sometimes as many as
6, along with one or two end of day charts (so that I can see where I am in
the world). Generally I only display one or two charts simultaneously
(the others are minimized). I guess that I am collecting rt data on
maybe a total of 20 or so securities. I'm happy with 6.51. It
does what I want: collect rt data. And it allows me to use the all of
Metastock's capabilities like the System Tester, Explorer, Experts, etc. on
that data.
<P>A typical day for me is to have <I>at least</I> two real time charts
open. I sometimes display a second real time security in the main
securities' inner window. I do this because it saves a lot of room on
the screen, especially when I delete the title bars. (Easier on the
eyes.) Also it's the best way to go, IMO, if you're ever inclined to
look for divergence between securities, which I do at times. <BR>So if you
count the above example as two charts (I do), I usually have a total of 4 rt
charts: two maximized and two minimized. Also, I have at least
one EOD chart minimized. Additionally, often, but not always, I have
two Signal On Line charts and a SOL quote window minimized, my internet
browser minimized, and my OnLine software program. Why in the world am
I telling you this...
<P>I do this on my poky P 133, 80MB, 6.4 HD, running Win95. Sometimes,
but certainly it's not the norm, things get a bit sluggish. Not the
incoming data, but waiting for a chart tip window to open, for example, may
take 2 or 3 seconds. At times like these, sometimes I'll close all
unnecessary programs and charts, and then things get back to normal. I
might even close and re-open Metastock for an extra good measure, leaving
the Equis Data Server and the Metastock File Server running so as not to
interrupt the data stream. In the background I also have Norton
CrashGuard running, which has saved my butt several times when I had too
many programs up. Of course, I don't need all that open, but you know
how it is. Gotta push things to the edge, right? Equis
recommends a minimum of a P-100 and 64MB, if memory serves. That's
adequate, but bigger is better. And the bigger the better, IMO.
<P>The incoming data on my charts is always at least 3 seconds faster than
what is reported on the CNBC bug. I would say that 3-4 sec's faster is
the norm. I've noticed that in extremely volatile periods, Signal's
data beats the bug by 10 sec's to nearly a full minute. I'm using a
USR v.90 modem, BTW.
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE = CITE>Their choice of data providers does not agree
with me. I am trying to see <BR>why I would change data provider and
what I would gain.</BLOCKQUOTE>I'm interested in what bad experiences you
had with them. (Seriously.) I would like to focus on their
weaknesses and give 'em some crap. (Not seriously.) ;-)
<P>I wasn't thrilled by their choice of Signal either, based solely on a few
posts that I read on other lists. But so far I don't have any real
complaints. Occasionally I get a <U>wickedly</U> bad tick, like all of
a sudden a tick will jump astronomically, or maybe go to zero. But in
my experience these are few and far between, especially considering how many
ticks there are in each day. All vendors give bad ticks on
occasion. It's just that when you have a position on and you get a BIG
bad tick that moves against you, there's a couple of seconds when your brain
goes numb. In Signals' defense, last week I was short and in an
instance the price upticked something like $3000 against me. Once I
picked myself up off the floor, I called my broker's quote line. They
recorded the same bad tick, so it must have come from the exchange.
Yesterday was another example when the Fed announced the rate cut.
About a minute later the e-mini ticked up to something like
1300.00. My broker's quote line reported something like 9999.75,
which is what the CME posted on it's web site yesterday. My EOD
provider put out something like 1064.00 (I don't remember the exact
figure.) I still don't know which is the correct high. Guess I
need to bop over to the CME and see if they have it posted correctly.
<P>>good/bad?
<P>It does a good job, in my opinion. I'm a happy user and would
definitely recommend it.
<P>>Restrictions?
<P>Not exactly sure what you mean, but my only "complaints" are
directed at Signal. Last I checked, they don't supply intra-day
historical charts or data...only daily history. For me it's really no
big deal, since I already had some tick data. I guess it depends on
exactly how big your trading world is. My world is small, so I can buy
all the tick data I need for about $50. I did buy some additional data
from Tick Data, by the way. Another annoyance is that you only get
TODAY's data on Signal-On-Line's charts. Not even yesterday's
prices. If there's a way to get around this, I don't know it.
And at midnight CST, prices disappear, so you end up staring at a blank
screen until the first tick occurs. And then you end up staring at one
tick until the second one appears. And then it occurs that maybe, just
maybe it's time to get a LIFE! Or you could just run Metastock
24 hrs a day and not loose anything.
<P>Of course, that's unless you happen to lose your internet connection,
which has happened to me a few times. To my knowledge, Signal provides
no way to replace that data. A downloadable data file would be
oh-so-welcome. On all but one occasion I was at the computer and was
able to resume collecting data in about two minutes, so no great
loss. It's not nearly as serious as losing a daily bar on an EOD
chart, IMO. Or you could opt to use the s-l-o-w but more reliable (I
assume) FM, or cable.
<P>Price: DBC discounts are available thru some brokerages, I
believe. Look for about $20 per mo <BR>lower fees. If you
pre-pay, that brings the cost down to about $135 per month plus exchange
fees. It ain't $75 like you may get elsewhere for rt charts, but then
again "elsewhere" doesn't allow you to take advantage of all of
Metastock's capabilities. In my opinion, it's the difference between
night and day. If you don't need to use MSPro for your trading,
there's certainly nothing wrong with staying with your current setup.
<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE = CITE>I presently use DTN <BR>RT and Ensign, I am very
happy with that setup. I would love to have custom <BR>indicators and
system test capability.</BLOCKQUOTE>One word: <B>MSPro.
</B><G>
<P>Ken
<P>PS- Earlier you asked for a screen shot. See attachment.
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There is a recent version of the intellimouse drivers
available at the microsoft web site. They are up to
version 2.20 now.
Ed Hancock wrote:
>
> I noticed a flurry of talk about mouse drivers. I recently - regretfully -
> "upgraded" from W95 to W98. The going has not been smooth. I get lockups at
> least once a day requiring a reset with the attending drama to recover. The
> drama is always worse when the lockup occurs in Metastock. I use a MS
> Intellimouse that I find excellent to use with Metastock and most Office97
> programs. I use the mouse driver from the W98 CD rom. I have also tried
> using the generic mouse driver and also tried another "ordinary" mouse.
> Still get hang-ups. I'm not certain the problem is with the mouse but it
> seems to occur after moving the little sucker.
> Friend of mine who also had strife with W98 has bought NT4 and reports his
> problems are over. Before going to this considerable expense I thought of
> trying a William Gates effigy and a few needles but there must be other
> solutions.
> Anyone else get hang-ups or lockups with this horror of a system? Any
> suggestions where to search for assistance.
> Regards,
> Ed Hancock
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