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Hello listees,

<P>I am still at loggerheads with my Mentor , While I put his views here
I still stand by mine (Which I could change, <B>I am&nbsp; looking at 6400</B>).
7200 Then being CRUCIAL.

<P>Your inputs and thoughts welcome.

<P><B>WARNING : The&nbsp; AUTHOR does NOT have access to charts as you
do (Hope to correct that soon).Some number will vary.</B><B></B>

<P><B>Quote "</B>
<BR>1. The market completed a significant impulse move last year at the
<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp; approx 8200 level (again I don't have a proper chart -
only what
<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp; I can see on Yahoo Stock Quotes).
<BR>2. It then made an a-b-c correction with the crash in Oct 1997 being
<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp; the c-wave component.&nbsp; The market touched approx
7200 level where
<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp; the c-wave ended.&nbsp; This a-b-c correction was an (A)
of one larger
<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp; degree.
<BR>3. The subsequent rise from this 7200 level to 9367 is an irregular
<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp; (B) with the (B)-wave being more than 200% of (A).&nbsp;
The reason I
<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp; am taking this rise as a (B)-wave is due to the fact that
the rise
<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp; channels almost perfectly between 2 parallel lines.&nbsp;
This signifies
<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp; corrective behaviour (not impulsive behaviour).&nbsp;
The strength of
<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp; the extended wave in any impulse action, almost always,
breaks the
<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp; upper parallel line (when the extended waves are either
the 3rd or
<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp; the 5th).&nbsp; Hence, if the action was not impulsive
then BY DEFAULT
<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp; it is corrective making it the (B)-wave.
<BR>4. The devastating (C)-wave started downwards from 9367.&nbsp; This
wave
<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp; MUST BE a 5-wave sequence.&nbsp; Market action from the
top certainly
<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp; seems to indicate that we are in a c-wave of some degree.
We must
<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp; now analyse this (C)-wave.
<BR>5. Since the (B)-wave was more than 138.2% of the (A)-wave, THEN THE
<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp; (C)-WAVE MUST FAIL, i.e. the market will not go below
the bottom
<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp; made by the (A)-wave, i.e. the approx 7200 level.&nbsp;
This entire
<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp; (A)-(B)-(C) pattern is known as an irregular failure in
Elliot
<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp; parlance.&nbsp; The significance of this pattern is that
the market
<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp; has tremendous steam still left in it.
<BR>6. Let us analyse the (C)-wave which is yet to complete.&nbsp; The
1st
<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp; wave was from 9367 to the approx level of 8800 - 8900.&nbsp;
The market
<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp; then rallied to approx 9100 level before falling again
then making
<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp; a sideways pattern before crashing from 8672.&nbsp; The
2nd wave
<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp; completed at 8672.&nbsp; The pattern of this 2nd-wave
in Elliot parlance
<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp; is a "running double-three".&nbsp; A "running double-three"
is, almost
<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp; always, a 2nd wave pattern in a 5-wave sequence.&nbsp;
Subsequent market
<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp; action makes me confident about my reading.&nbsp; Every
pattern has its
<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp; own implications and if the market does not follow-up
as it is
<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp; supposed to do after the completion of a particular pattern,
it is
<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp; imperative that you change your count.&nbsp; The fall
from 8672 to 7400
<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp; had all the characteristics of the 3rd wave of a 5-wave
sequence,
<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp; more so coming after a "running double-three" 2nd wave.&nbsp;
We are
<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp; now in the 4th wave correcting upwards.&nbsp; You will
notice that the
<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp; 4th wave looks very similar to the 2nd component of the
"running
<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp; double-three".&nbsp; This is another confirmation that
those two
<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp; patterns are not of the same degree.&nbsp; It is necessary
that two
<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp; alternate waves in the same direction MUST ALTERNATE in
<BR>construction.&nbsp; Hence they are of different degrees with the current
<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp; pattern of the 4th wave being of one higher degree than
the
<BR>previous pattern.&nbsp; Also, it is often noticed that a pattern of
<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp; a higher degree mimics the previous pattern of one lesser
degree
<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp; and vice versa.
<BR>7. The 4th wave which is still in progress has till date retraced
<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp; about 55% of the 3rd wave.&nbsp; This sort of retracement
could lead to
<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp; a 5th wave failure, i.e. the 5th wave will not go below
7400 which
<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp; is the bottom of the 3rd wave.&nbsp; There is no hard
and fast rule
<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp; that the 5th wave will fail but in any case the 5th wave
should
<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp; not be more than 61.8% of the 3rd wave which is the extended
wave.
<BR>8,&nbsp; I write this because if my analysis is correct, then we are
<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp; on the threshold of a great bull market because the significance
<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp; of an (A)-(B)-(C) irregular failure is a strong upward
thrust
<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp; which should be at least 1.618 times the previous impulse
of the
<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp; same degree. <B>" Unquote.</B>
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From: Bill Van Dieman <bill.van.dieman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Thursday, 17 September 1998 10:49
Subject: Re: Wouldn't it be nice ...


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