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Thanks, Marilin.
<BR>I agree with your every word.&nbsp; I am almost surprised to find a
"lady" that is not still "in love" with Bill.&nbsp; lol&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
Many still are, as you know.
<P>Also, mom had something to say with Monica's encouragement to do the
right and wrong thing.&nbsp; That speaks for the suspect level of morality
in our society; when our mothers encourage their children to take the lower
path.
<P>Regarding the economy.&nbsp; The ultimate law states that we should
put personal morality before money.&nbsp; I still believe that we can have
both <FONT COLOR="#FF0000">high moral societal standards</FONT> and <FONT COLOR="#FF0000">prosperity</FONT>.&nbsp;
Because of our President's actions... no, lack of character, we may lose
our prosperity, along with our already wilted national character.
<P>I include your post, because I want to read it again.&nbsp; <FONT COLOR="#00CC00">:^)</FONT>
<BR>Regards
<BR>Larry P.
<BR>___________________
<P>Marilin Larken wrote:
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE>I don't think there's anything innocent about her
and I don't think she
<BR>claims to be. I think they were both thinking of only themselves and
did not
<BR>care about the consequences.
<BR>I do care about the perjury, I think if we can't trust the president
to
<BR>uphold the laws of the land then whom can we trust? If he gets away
with it
<BR>them why shouldn't everyone else. This will set a bad president.
<P>How did he find time to get any work done while all this was going on,
did
<BR>he hire someone else to take over some of his responsibilities while
he had
<BR>his fun during working hours?
<P>If you or me got caught doing something like this in the office we would
be
<BR>history by now.
<BR>What about Paula Jones? If he did harass her &amp; them lied about
it she has
<BR>been seriously wronged &amp; this needs to be corrected.
<P>The way I see it, If he doesn't or didn't care about what his daughter
would
<BR>have to endure if the inevitable happened why should he care about
my
<BR>children or yours.
<BR>I do not trust him to make decisions anymore. I know a lot of people
will
<BR>say to me " But the economy is soooo good", MONEY IS NOT EVERYTHING!!!!
<P>-----Original Message-----
<BR>From: owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
<BR>[mailto:owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
Behalf Of Bill Saxon
<BR>Sent: Sunday, September 13, 1998 1:17 PM
<BR>To: EMail List FastTrack; EMail List Metastock; Al Angle; John Aupperle;
<BR>Scott Brandau; Stan Ellison; Clem Gagne; Mike Hasket; Pamela E. Hinchey;
<BR>Mike Hodges; Marketspace Financial; Don Potter; Andy Pracht; Gene
<BR>Schwartz
<BR>Cc: Al Angle; John Aupperle; Scott Brandau; Stan Ellison; Clem Gagne;
<BR>Mike Hasket; Pamela E. Hinchey; Mike Hodges; Marketspace Financial;
Don
<BR>Potter; Andy Pracht; Gene Schwartz; Frank Tarr, OD
<BR>Subject: "The Seduction of a President" by Kenneth Starr
<P>My wife, who grabbed this best seller from my hands before I had a chance
to
<BR>read it, made this observation.&nbsp; I tend to agree with her.&nbsp;
Like most women
<BR>she
<BR>is quite intuitive.&nbsp; I do not think that Monica is the poor little
intern
<BR>intimidated by a President who wielded his power and influence to have
his
<BR>way
<BR>with her.&nbsp; To me (and my wife) she is an attractive young lady
who by her
<BR>own
<BR>account seduced a relatively old fool who used the wrong head to think
with.
<P>I feel sorry for the man but I am not sure I want him as Commander in
Chief.
<BR>Not because of the perjury but because of the lack of good sense.&nbsp;
The
<BR>interesting thing is that with all the mulling over by the press I
have
<BR>heard no
<BR>one put forth this observation.&nbsp; When I carefully read the details
of the
<BR>encounters this conclusion seems reasonable and likely.
<BR>Any opinions??
<BR>&nbsp;</BLOCKQUOTE>
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From: "Guy Tann" <grtann@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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Subject: RE: Weekly Pick
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 10:28:22 -0700
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<DIV><SPAN class=930082317-14091998><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial 
size=2>Jim</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=930082317-14091998><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial 
size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=930082317-14091998><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2>I'm 
glad I'm not alone here.&nbsp; I looked at these thing some 20 years ago, and 
while I'm considered to have a fairly good ability in math and graphics, never 
managed to figure them out. I do understand that there are certain patterns one 
should look for, but I've never gotten that far.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=930082317-14091998><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial 
size=2></FONT></SPAN><SPAN class=930082317-14091998><FONT color=#0000ff 
face=Arial size=2>Guy</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=930082317-14091998><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial 
size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE 
style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff solid 2px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">
    <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader><FONT face="Times New Roman" 
    size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> 
    owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]<B>On 
    Behalf Of</B> Jim Greening<BR><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, September 13, 1998 12:11 
    PM<BR><B>To:</B> metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: Weekly 
    Pick<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>Guy,</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2></FONT><FONT size=2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
    I have Nison's book on &quot;Japanese Candlestick Charting Techniques&quot; 
    and have tried to follow/use some of the formations with no success what so 
    ever.&nbsp; I even tried some systems with candlestick formations, but 
    didn't get good returns.&nbsp; I'm convinced that there may be something to 
    it and even use the Candlestick charts, but so far it just hasn't soaked in 
    &lt;G&gt;.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=2>Jim</FONT></DIV>
    <BLOCKQUOTE 
    style="BORDER-LEFT: #000000 solid 2px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">
        <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><B>-----Original 
        Message-----</B><BR><B>From: </B>Guy Tann &lt;<A 
        href="mailto:grtann@xxxxxxxxxxx";>grtann@xxxxxxxxxxx</A>&gt;<BR><B>To: 
        </B>metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
        &lt;<A 
        href="mailto:metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</A>&gt;<BR><B>Date: 
        </B>Sunday, September 13, 1998 12:57 PM<BR><B>Subject: </B>RE: Weekly 
        Pick<BR><BR></DIV></FONT>
        <DIV><SPAN class=230521316-13091998><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial 
        size=2>Jim</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
        <DIV><SPAN class=230521316-13091998><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial 
        size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
        <DIV><SPAN class=230521316-13091998><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial 
        size=2>Took a look at my DJIA weekly charts with the corresponding BB 
        (using their defaults) and by BB range runs from 9350 and 6600 with the 
        current position being just below the mid point around 7900.&nbsp; I can 
        be like the NBC talking heads and say we have an equal chance of going 
        up or going down.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
        <DIV><SPAN class=230521316-13091998><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial 
        size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
        <DIV><SPAN class=230521316-13091998><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial 
        size=2>FWIW, we finally got a Sell Signal.....</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
        <DIV><SPAN class=230521316-13091998><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial 
        size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
        <DIV><SPAN class=230521316-13091998><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial 
        size=2>Now our 'Contrary' was a 36 and our maximum is 35 (based upon 
        probabilities).&nbsp; Now comes the basic question and the second 
        guessing of our system, do we wait, and follow the trading rules, or do 
        we say that's close enough and short the market.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
        <DIV><SPAN class=230521316-13091998><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial 
        size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
        <DIV><SPAN class=230521316-13091998><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial 
        size=2>Hopefully our maturity will prevail and we will wait.&nbsp; We 
        need another up day, but not quite as strong.&nbsp;</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
        <DIV><SPAN class=230521316-13091998><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial 
        size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
        <DIV><SPAN class=230521316-13091998><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial 
        size=2>Wish I knew more about Candlesticks, but when I switched over to 
        that format, the pattern looks interesting.&nbsp; If I only knew what it 
        means &lt;G&gt;.&nbsp;</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
        <DIV><SPAN class=230521316-13091998><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial 
        size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
        <DIV><SPAN class=230521316-13091998><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial 
        size=2>Regards</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
        <DIV><SPAN class=230521316-13091998><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial 
        size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
        <DIV><SPAN class=230521316-13091998><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial 
        size=2>Guy</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
        <DIV><SPAN class=230521316-13091998><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial 
        size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
        <BLOCKQUOTE 
        style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff solid 2px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">
            <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader><FONT face="Times New Roman" 
            size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> 
            owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
            [mailto:owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]<B>On Behalf Of</B> Jim 
            Greening<BR><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, September 12, 1998 10:54 
            AM<BR><B>To:</B> Metastock<BR><B>Subject:</B> Weekly 
            Pick<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
            <DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>All,</FONT></DIV>
            <DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; The market 
            did move up yesterday and I did open my DELL position at 56 
            3/8.&nbsp; So far so good, now if it will just follow through 
            &lt;G&gt;.&nbsp; I took a long look at the indices last night and 
            they are acting right for my theory.&nbsp; To expand it a little, I 
            believe the DJIA is trying to set up a volatile sideways or 
            horizontal channel trading range between 7500 and 8000.&nbsp; The 
            DJIA is not near the bottom of any of my trend channels but both the 
            OEX and SPX are bouncing off the bottom of long term channels.&nbsp; 
            There is , however, some support for the DJIA near 7500 from the Jan 
            lows and resistance above 8000 from last falls highs.&nbsp; Looking 
            at the daily action, the DJIA has tested the 7500 level three times 
            in the last two weeks so it does look like a bottoming action.&nbsp; 
            With the volatility we have seen, I fully expect another test of the 
            8000 level soon.&nbsp; However, this is still a somewhat tenuous 
            theory and a long way from reality.&nbsp; I will commit to positions 
            to play the theory, but want to do so more cautiously then usual 
            with very close stops.&nbsp; That means any stock I pick must be 
            close to the bottom of the channel since I set my stops under the 
            channel and preferable has just bounced up a little.&nbsp; Also I'm 
            only going to play the large market leaders in groups I'm interested 
            in.&nbsp; </FONT></DIV>
            <DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Even with 
            the large DELL position and my normal size RDC position, I'm still 
            over 50% cash and want at least one more position to play the bounce 
            I'm hoping for.&nbsp; I think the brokers and financial service 
            groups have been over punished and over sold lately so that's the 
            group for this weeks pick.&nbsp; I narrowed my list to Schwab and 
            Travelers Group (TRV) and decided on TRV since it is so over sold 
            and since Sandy Weill always bounces back.&nbsp; I only wish I had 
            ridden his coat tails more in the past &lt;G&gt;.&nbsp; TRV is going 
            to be the true financial services giant when the merger with 
            Citicorp is completed.</FONT></DIV>
            <DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; TRV at 40 
            7/8 broke out of a Short Term Down Trend Channel Friday on good 
            volume.&nbsp; It's also in a Long Term Up Trend Channel (LTUTC) with 
            the top at 80 3/8 and the bottom at 38.&nbsp; It peaked at 73 3/8 on 
            4/6/98 and then went into a four month CANSLIM cup type formation 
            but failed to breakout in Jul and then went into a tail spin to a 
            low of 36.4375 Friday morning before the good up move.&nbsp; Looking 
            at the chart, the last week shows a typical Equivolume reversal 
            pattern with TRV bouncing off the bottom of the LTUTC twice on high 
            volume.&nbsp; It closed at the lows on the first bounce, but closed 
            at the highs yesterday.&nbsp; The Support/Resistance and CMO 
            indicators look like the beginning of a reversal pattern.&nbsp; The 
            fundamentals are better than ever with the PE at 12.1, price/sales 
            at 1.1, return on equity at 17.5%, 5 yr. revenue growth rate at 49% 
            and 5 yr. earnings growth rate at 19%.&nbsp; TRV just kept growing 
            while the stock price dropped.&nbsp; That's why I think it's so over 
            sold and such a bargain right here.&nbsp; I'll take a long position 
            at Monday's open, set my target just under the top of the LTUTC at 
            80 and my mental stop just under it at 37 3/4.&nbsp; I'd like to 
            hang on to this one as a long term core position if it will let me 
            so I'll wait until a good short term up trend channel forms before 
            moving my stop up to it.&nbsp;</FONT></DIV>
            <DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I'm sending 
            a TRV.GIF chart to everyone on my email chart list.&nbsp; If you're 
            not on the list, and want on, just yell.</FONT></DIV>
            <DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
            <DIV><FONT color=#000000 
    size=2>Jim&nbsp;</FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
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From: cbfrish@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (Cliff Frish)
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Subject: Re: "The Seduction of a President" by Kenneth Starr
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 18:44:44 GMT
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I appreciate your input, especially as you are in Europe.  My statement, perhaps
mis-phrased, was based on news reports I saw showing headlines from various
Europeans newspapers decrying Clinton's acts, morals, etc.

I, personally, am disgusted by the man.  Not so much by his sexual practices as
by his complete disregard for, and blatant lying to, the American public.

I don't know if he should (or can) be impeached, but he should have the decency
to resign.  Unfortunately, decency doesn't appear to be in his vocabulary.

Cliff Frish

On Mon, 14 Sep 1998 13:36:28 -0700, you wrote:

>Cliff,
>
>> 1.  He has lost all credibility as a leader in the world arena (this may be the most
>> significant issue of all, regardless of any criminal acts on his part).
>
>This is absolutely not true. There is no sign in Europe of a loss of credibility of Mr. 
>Clinton. K. Starr, the Republicans, the Media, all these have lost their face.
>
>And we're certainly fed up with the US mix of puritanism, politics and justice!
>
>Alberto Torchio
> Torino, Italy
>