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Guy,
Skip the details of your software...just send me a large check
and then we can cut out the middle step.
Steve Karnish
CCT

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> From: {USER_FIRSTNAME} {USER_LASTNAME}
<robertbennet@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: Weekly Pick
> Date: Tuesday, September 08, 1998 2:55 PM
> 
> Please send details on your software.
> Bob
> 
> Guy Tann wrote:
> 
> 
> >
> >
> >  DickOn the contrary, our system is definitely not a trend
type
> > system.  Our worst years in the last 16 years was 1995, I
think (would
> > have to look it up), where it was up 100%.  We are
contrarian
> > traders.  Strictly short term.  This is the first time we've
been out
> > of a market this long in 16 years.  If a move goes against
us, we get
> > stopped out and never trade in that same direction again. 
We wait for
> > the opposite signal.  The reason is that we play
probabilities.  We
> > know that we're going to be right 75% of the time (at least
over the
> > last 16 years).If we get stopped out because the market has
gone x
> > points against us, we know that the odds are that we will
lose money
> > on that trade and not to chase it.  Since we were wrong on
the
> > direction of that trade, we assume that all following
signals in that
> > same direction will be wrong.  We were stopped out of a long
position
> > in one of the giant market swings on 7/23.  We did have a
sell signal,
> > however our system requires something we call a contrary. 
That's a
> > measure of the strength of the price move that day.  So for
us to go
> > short (remember we're contrarians), we need an up day,
either the day
> > of the signal or the previous day.  The contrary we got was
too high
> > and therefore we couldn't go short and needed to wait. 
We're still
> > waiting <G>.Just didn't want to leave the impression that we
have a
> > bull or trend following system.  Our system is based upon
daily price
> > movement.Emotionally, I am probably more comfortable as a
bear.  But
> > that's my personality.  Regardless, we just trade our
signals and
> > don't really care about the direction, just that we get a
certain
> > amount of activity. RegardsGuy
> >
> >      -----Original Message-----
> >      From: owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >      [mailto:owner-metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Dick
> >      Simmons
> >      Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 1998 1:09 AM
> >      To: metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >      Subject: Re: Weekly Pick
> >
> >      Hi John, The only indicator that will work in bull
trends,
> >      bear trends and consolidations is that of cycles. Look
at
> >      poor old Guy, has a great system for bull markets but
it is
> >      not working at present. Cycles go on and on.
Regards,Dick.
> >
> >           -----Original Message-----
> >           From: John Hunter <jhunter@xxxxxxxxxx>
> >           To: metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >           <metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >           Date: Tuesday, 8 September 1998 1:31
> >           Subject: Re: Weekly Pick
> >            Jim,Your confusion is shared by many I believe,
> >           certainly by myself.  I have tried to address it
> >           in the past on  this forum with no positive
> >           outcome and you have prompted me to try once
> >           again. To me the answer to this question is the
> >           most important reason why anyone would use
> >           Metastock. Take your own system, as I have come to
> >           understand it from your many very informative
> >           postings. When you see a breakout from a tend
> >           occurring what indicator or combination of
> >           indicators could be used to reliably predictive
> >           that the trend has ended and the stock/commodity
> >           price will move in a new direction. I have noted
> >           you say in a number of postings that you are
> >           forced to wait for sufficient information (ie days
> >           of trading) to come in before you can redraw the
> >           new price direction.I have played around with a
> >           number of indicators, and different combinations
> >           of indicators, with the object of finding a system
> >           that will reliably signal that and end to the
> >           current trend is about to come to an end. For
> >           example the daily DOW chart had a stochastic
> >           crossover, indicating a sell, in late July and
> >           this was confirmed by a moving average crossover
> >           shortly after this. (These can be viewed from the
> >           http://www.barchart.com  page.) Now I know it is
> >           not going to be that easy and so your confusion
> >           and my question to the group. What indicators are
> >           useful in predicting the end of a
> >           trend?JH -----Original Message-----
> >           From: Jim Greening <JimGinVA@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >           To: Metastock <metastock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >           Date: Sunday, 6 September 1998 4:42
> >           Subject: Weekly Pick
> >
> >
> >                All,     We got the drop that I was
> >                expecting this week, but now I'm
> >                confused.  Are we in the process of
> >                completing a typical four month bull
> >                market 20% correction or is this the
> >                start of a bear market?  I was
> >                definitely bearish last week as all the
> >                indices were breaking intermediate and
> >                long term up trends which confirmed a
> >                down trend was in process.  That's still
> >                the same this week, but I'm getting
> >                mixed
> >               
signals.......snip..........snip..........snip............snip...
. The
> >                internet stocks patterns would support
> >                the bear market theory.  Since I'm
> >                uncertain, my options at this point are
> >                to either do nothing or since I'm all
> >                cash except for my WCOM put options, I
> >                could nibble in both directions.
> >                Nibbling is more fun and I have the
> >                large cash position for a cushion, so
> >                that's what I'm going to do
> >               
<G>.......snip..........snip...........snip..........snip......
To
> >                me this looks like a typical long term
> >                trend reversal pattern.  I constructed a
> >                standard deviation Short Term Down Trend
> >                Channel (STDTC) with the deviation set
> >                at 2 from the 8/19/98 high to the 9/1/98
> >                low and extended it to the right.  The
> >                top of the STDTC is at 30 1/2 and the
> >                bottom of the channel can't be reached
> >                since it is below zero.  The
> >                fundamentals are what you would expect
> >                of an internet stock, 229% sales growth,
> >                but negative earnings.  It could do
> >                great in a bull market, but should get
> >                killed in a bear market.
> >