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Hello,
Because software design is not popularity contest or beauty show.
The designer has to decide what is implemented, when and how.
Otherwise the software ends with mess.
You fail to note that I am a trader too, as opposed to many other software
developers, so I actually use AmiBroker for my own trading
and that was the primary reason to write AmIBroker at all.
AmiBroker is a fruit of my own thought and my own trading requirements.
Yes there are some features that I do not use myself and I implemented
them just because others wanted them, but it is minority.
Other products are built by people without trading experience.
Best regards,
Tomasz Janeczko
amibroker.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Paolo Cavatore" <pcavatore@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 12:15 PM
Subject: [amibroker] Re: AmiBroker 5.22.0 BETA released
> Why don't you implement a poll with suggested enhancements like the
> guys from multicharts have done for their platform (see
> http://forum.tssupport.com/viewtopic.php?t=6072)
>
> This would save you precious time and let AB users express their own
> proposal in a simple way.
>
> pc
>
> --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Tomasz Janeczko" <groups@xxx>
> wrote:
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> This is mainly there because there was a stream of very cosmetic
> things suggested that can be easily
>> worked around or implemented as AFL, or already existing features
> or duplicates of already suggested things.
>>
>> For example newbies had tendency to log in immediatelly after
> purchase and fill dozen of suggestions
>> of features that already exist in the software, simply by lack of
> in-depth familiarity with the program.
>> And then I needed to spend time marking them as duplicates or
> already existing.
>>
>> So the top page text is designed to make sure that submission is
> well-thought, not "impulse" thing.
>> The text mentioned was also added because some people were
> expecting "next week" implementation
>> for their suggestions.
>>
>> If you, however, have really bright idea for significant (not
> cosmetic) improvement then you are welcome to
>> submit it.
>>
>> The suggestions are implemented not in chronological order nor
> in "most discussed" order.
>> They are taken as a "starting point" for creative process therefore
> they are implemented in
>> (from your point of view) random order. But for me it is the order
> of creative process.
>> I prefer suggestions describing the goal than those very technical
> ("add button for X"), as goal-oriented suggestions allow
>> better fit into design and look&feel, than technical, because
> technical suggestions are
>> very "subjective", have limited scope of application and rarely
> follow the concept and feel of the program.
>>
>> As you noticed the usual practice for the beta is to implement more
> or less 10 features or fixes per 0.01 version.
>> So each major upgrade has more or less 100 new features or fixes.
> And there are at most 3 major upgrades (30 betas)
>> per year.
>>
>> The open suggestion list on the other hand has 1000+ items. With
> 300 items per year, it takes about 3 years to go through
>> 1000 suggestions.
>> So the text above is not to discourage all suggestions, but rather
> to make sure that everyone understands
>> limitations of the development process and make your expectations
> realistic.
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Tomasz Janeczko
>> amibroker.com
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Keith McCombs
>> To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 6:09 AM
>> Subject: Re: [amibroker] Re: AmiBroker 5.22.0 BETA released
>>
>>
>> Note that at the top of the feedback page is written:
>>
>> Welcome to AmiBroker Feedback Center!
>> 1.. Please DO NOT send NEW suggestions. At the moment only bug
> reports/critical issues are accepted. We have back log of suggestions
> to work out. Any new suggestions will be put to "On Hold" status.
>> Therefore, I have been keeping my suggestions to myself (yes,
> plural).
>>
>> Dennis Brown wrote:
>> Bill,
>>
>>
>>
>> Yes, I agree. This board is a good way to iron out
> understandings between different users to bring clarity to vague
> ideas or support for specific ones. However, follow through is
> needed to make it happen. Someone has to write the suggestions and
> look for support of the discussions or nothing will happen if it does
> not happen right away. A number of critical additions were made to
> the charting features and some bug fixes by TJ last year through this
> process, and others were left for later consideration. If the ones
> left over are not on the suggestions list, then they may be lost and
> forgotten when TJ goes looking through the list for the next thing to
> do.
>>
>>
>> BR,
>> Dennis
>>
>>
>> On Feb 22, 2009, at 9:40 PM, wavemechanic wrote:
>>
>>
>> Dennis, as you know from past lively discussions last summer
> and before regarding charting that the forum appears (at least to me)
> to be more effective than the Suggestion Board. This might reflect
> the fact that many add their "2 cents" in contrast to the Suggestion
> Board which many do not look at.
>>
>> So, Tim, I encourage you to look up the old threads on the
> subject which contain many specifics. There were many good ideas in
> those messages and what they need, I suspect, is a way to present
> them in a more structured manner. Grab the bull by the horns and you
> will be surprised how many jump in the pool wit h you. Maybe we
> should have an AB-Charting board for the chartists.
>>
>> Bill
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Dennis Brown
>> To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Sent: February 22, 2009 8:33 PM
>> Subject: Re: [amibroker] Re: AmiBroker 5.22.0 BETA re leased
>>
>>
>> Tim,
>>
>> Please use the requested feedback page for suggestions.
> That way the
>> rest of us can see what your suggestions are and they can
> be supported
>> if they are desired by others. Tomasz has said that this
> is the only
>> way he will consider additions, so improve your chances of
> success by
>> following the requested process.
>>
>> Many suggestions have waited for years to get to their
> turn --
>> depending on how hard they are to do, and the number of
> users who
>> support them.
>>
>> Of course it is different if Tomasz is inviting comments on
> the board &nbs p;
>> about a specific feature he is working on.
>>
>> You can also use the board to say specifically what you
> need.
>> Sometimes someone knows exactly how to do a thing and will
> share it.
>> Plan for success by casting your net wide. You never know
> when and
>> where the fish are hiding.
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Dennis
>>
>>
>> On Feb 22, 2009, at 7:31 PM, Tim wrote:
>>
>> > Hi Dennis,
>> > Thank you for your comments and suggestion. I have sent
> TJ several
>> > emails requesting some additions to AB as well as his
> request for
>> > additional suggestions from the forum regarding charting
> additions
>> > etc. I believe if AB had a number of studies built in it
> would make
>> > the program easier to use and appeal to a broader
> audience. My
>> > decision to email TJ privately stemmed from my approach
> to appeal to
>> > the business man in TJ as well as support my suggestions
> for the
>> > additions. He has continued to develop new features for
> those who have
>> > the ability to program and a dearth of new features for
> those who
>> > can't.
>> > I am pleased he has added the new features for those with
> the ability
>> > to program, my wish is that he would also add new
> features for those
>> > of us who don't. I really like AB and very much wish to
> continue using
>> > it but I am now forced to use another program because
> they offer what
>> > I need. AB and I go back a few years, forget how many,
> but I need
>> > certain studies that have been missing and because of
> that I have
>> > opted to use a program which isn't as good in many areas
> as AB. Over
>> > the years I have seen many wonderful things said about AB
> and rightly
>> > so. However, the main criticism which has been stated
> numerous times
>> > is the need to program in order to get the most out of AB
> and lack of
>> > studies. TJ is well aware of this and I have also brought
> it to his
>> > attention as well. It was with these things in mind that
> I posed the
>> > question to TJ in hopes of getting his response. Thank
> you again for
>> > your comments and suggestion.
>> >
>> > Warmest regards,
>> >
>> >
>> > Tim
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Dennis Brown <see3d@>
> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Tim,
>> >>
>> >> I searched every open suggestion for any originated by
> Tim...
>> >> I only found one, and that was just implemented (for
> calendar days).
>> >>
>> >> Did you have specific suggestions requested in the
> official feedback
>> >> area you are referring to?
>> >>
>> >> It is hard to tell what you are referring to from your
> comment --
>> >> "more" is not an actionable suggestion.
>> >>
>> >> AmiBroker is very strong in programmability features,
> and backtesting
>> >> of portfolio strategies. It is also very good in basic
> charting.
>> >> However, if you are looking for a lot of built-in
> charting studies
>> >> that require no programming, then a dedicated manual
> charting program
>> >> would likely have more of these features.
>> >>
>> >> If you are able to drag and drop indicators, then a lot
> more things
>> >> are possible, thought others may have to write them if
> you can not do
>> >> it.
>> >>
>> >> Could you be more specific about what you are looking
> for?
>> >>
>> >> If you just want lots of chart studies for free, then
> open a
>> >> thinkorswim account. You get data feeds and charts with
> a lot of
>> >> studies at no charge.
>> >>
>> >> Best regards,
>> >> Dennis
>> >>
>> >> On Feb 21, 2009, at 11:16 AM, Tim wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Hi TJ,
>> >>> I know many of the programmer types enjoy the many
> features you have
>> >>> added to AB over the years. However, is their any cha
> nce you are
>> >>> going
>> >>> to add features for those of us who want charting
> upgrades,
>> >>> additional
>> >>> charting studies etc? I am sure these features would be
> very well
>> >>> received also. Please consider this in future upgrades
> to AB. Thank
>> >>> you.
>> >>>
>> >>> Kindest regards,
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Tim
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
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>> >>>
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>> >>>
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>> >>>
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>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
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>> TO GET TECHNICAL SUPPORT send an e-mail directly to
>> SUPPORT {at} amibroker.com
>>
>> TO SUBMIT SUGGESTIONS please use FEEDBACK CENTER at
>> http://www.amibroker.com/feedback/
>> (submissions sent via other channels won't be considered)
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> DEVLOG:
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>>
>> Yahoo! Groups Links
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>
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>
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>
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> http://www.amibroker.com/feedback/
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>
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