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[amibroker] Re: AmiBroker 5.22.0 BETA released



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Why don't you implement a poll with suggested enhancements like the 
guys from multicharts have done for their platform (see 
http://forum.tssupport.com/viewtopic.php?t=6072)

This would save you precious time and let AB users express their own 
proposal in a simple way.

pc

--- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Tomasz Janeczko" <groups@xxx> 
wrote:
>
> Hello,
> 
> This is mainly there because there was a stream of very cosmetic 
things suggested that can be easily
> worked around or implemented as AFL, or already existing features 
or duplicates of already suggested things.
> 
> For example newbies had tendency to log in immediatelly after 
purchase and fill dozen of suggestions
> of features that already exist in the software, simply by lack of 
in-depth familiarity with the program.
> And then I needed to spend time marking them as duplicates or 
already existing.
> 
> So the top page text is designed to make sure that submission is 
well-thought, not "impulse" thing.
> The text mentioned was also added because some people were 
expecting "next week" implementation
> for their suggestions. 
> 
> If you, however, have really bright idea for significant (not 
cosmetic) improvement then you are welcome to
> submit it.  
> 
> The suggestions are implemented not in chronological order nor 
in "most discussed" order.
> They are taken as a "starting point" for creative process therefore 
they are implemented in
> (from your point of view) random order. But for me it is the order 
of creative process.
> I prefer suggestions describing the goal than those very technical 
("add button for X"), as goal-oriented suggestions allow
> better fit into design and look&feel, than technical, because 
technical suggestions are 
> very "subjective", have limited scope of application and rarely 
follow the concept and feel of the program.
> 
> As you noticed the usual practice for the beta is to implement more 
or less 10 features or fixes per 0.01 version.
> So each major upgrade has more or less 100 new features or fixes. 
And there are at most 3 major upgrades (30 betas)
> per year.
> 
> The open suggestion list on the other hand has 1000+ items. With 
300 items per year, it takes about 3 years to go through
> 1000 suggestions. 
> So the text above is not to discourage all suggestions, but rather 
to make sure that everyone understands
> limitations of the development process and make your expectations 
realistic.
> 
> Best regards,
> Tomasz Janeczko
> amibroker.com
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: Keith McCombs 
>   To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
>   Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 6:09 AM
>   Subject: Re: [amibroker] Re: AmiBroker 5.22.0 BETA released
> 
> 
>   Note that at the top of the feedback page is written:
> 
>   Welcome to AmiBroker Feedback Center! 
>     1.. Please DO NOT send NEW suggestions. At the moment only bug 
reports/critical issues are accepted. We have back log of suggestions 
to work out. Any new suggestions will be put to "On Hold" status. 
>   Therefore, I have been keeping my suggestions to myself (yes, 
plural).
> 
>   Dennis Brown wrote: 
>     Bill,
> 
> 
> 
>     Yes, I agree.  This board is a good way to iron out 
understandings between different users to bring clarity to vague 
ideas or support for specific ones.  However, follow through is 
needed to make it happen.  Someone has to write the suggestions and 
look for support of the discussions or nothing will happen if it does 
not happen right away.  A number of critical additions were made to 
the charting features and some bug fixes by TJ last year through this 
process, and others were left for later consideration.  If the ones 
left over are not on the suggestions list, then they may be lost and 
forgotten when TJ goes looking through the list for the next thing to 
do.
> 
> 
>     BR,
>     Dennis
> 
> 
>     On Feb 22, 2009, at 9:40 PM, wavemechanic wrote:
> 
> 
>       Dennis, as you know from past lively discussions last summer 
and before regarding charting that the forum appears (at least to me) 
to be more effective than the Suggestion Board.  This might reflect 
the fact that many add their "2 cents" in contrast to the Suggestion 
Board which many do not look at.
> 
>       So, Tim, I encourage you to look up the old threads on the 
subject which contain many specifics.  There were many good ideas in 
those messages and what they need, I suspect, is a way to present 
them in a more structured manner.  Grab the bull by the horns and you 
will be surprised how many jump in the pool wit h you.  Maybe we 
should have an AB-Charting board for the chartists.
> 
>       Bill
>         ----- Original Message -----
>         From: Dennis Brown
>         To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>         Sent: February 22, 2009 8:33 PM
>         Subject: Re: [amibroker] Re: AmiBroker 5.22.0 BETA re leased
> 
> 
>         Tim,
> 
>         Please use the requested feedback page for suggestions.   
That way the  
>         rest of us can see what your suggestions are and they can 
be supported  
>         if they are desired by others.   Tomasz has said that this 
is the only  
>         way he will consider additions, so improve your chances of 
success by  
>         following the requested process.
> 
>         Many suggestions have waited for years to get to their 
turn -- 
>         depending on how hard they are to do, and the number of 
users who  
>         support them.
> 
>         Of course it is different if Tomasz is inviting comments on 
the board &nbs p;
>         about a specific feature he is working on.
> 
>         You can also use the board to say specifically what you 
need.   
>         Sometimes someone knows exactly how to do a thing and will 
share it.   
>         Plan for success by casting your net wide.  You never know 
when and  
>         where the fish are hiding.
> 
>         Best regards,
>         Dennis
> 
> 
>         On Feb 22, 2009, at 7:31 PM, Tim wrote:
> 
>         > Hi Dennis,
>         > Thank you for your comments and suggestion. I have sent 
TJ several
>         > emails requesting some additions to AB as well as his 
request for
>         > additional suggestions from the forum regarding charting 
additions
>         > etc. I believe if AB had a number of studies built in it 
would make
>         > the program easier to use and appeal to a broader 
audience. My
>         > decision to email TJ privately stemmed from my approach 
to appeal to
>         > the business man in TJ as well as support my suggestions 
for the
>         > additions. He has continued to develop new features for 
those who have
>         > the ability to program and a dearth of new features for 
those who  
>         > can't.
>         > I am pleased he has added the new features for those with 
the ability
>         > to program, my wish is that he would also add new 
features for those
>         > of us who don't. I really like AB and very much wish to 
continue using
>         > it but I am now forced to use another program because 
they offer what
>         > I need. AB and I go back a few years, forget how many, 
but I need
>         > certain studies that have been missing and because of 
that I have
>         > opted to use a program which isn't as good in many areas 
as AB. Over
>         > the years I have seen many wonderful things said about AB 
and rightly
>         > so. However, the main criticism which has been stated 
numerous times
>         > is the need to program in order to get the most out of AB 
and lack of
>         > studies. TJ is well aware of this and I have also brought 
it to his
>         > attention as well. It was with these things in mind that 
I posed the
>         > question to TJ in hopes of getting his response. Thank 
you again for
>         > your comments and suggestion.
>         >
>         > Warmest regards,
>         >
>         >
>         > Tim
>         >
>         >
>         >
>         > --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Dennis Brown <see3d@> 
wrote:
>         >>
>         >> Tim,
>         >>
>         >> I searched every open suggestion for any originated by 
Tim...
>         >> I only found one, and that was just implemented (for 
calendar days).
>         >>
>         >> Did you have specific suggestions requested in the 
official feedback
>         >> area you are referring to?
>         >>
>         >> It is hard to tell what you are referring to from your 
comment  --
>         >> "more" is not an actionable suggestion.
>         >>
>         >> AmiBroker is very strong in programmability features, 
and backtesting
>         >> of portfolio strategies.  It is also very good in basic 
charting.
>         >> However, if you are looking for a lot of built-in 
charting studies
>         >> that require no programming, then a dedicated manual 
charting program
>         >> would likely have more of these features.
>         >>
>         >> If you are able to drag and drop indicators, then a lot 
more things
>         >> are possible, thought others may have to write them if 
you can not do
>         >> it.
>         >>
>         >> Could you be more specific about what you are looking 
for?
>         >>
>         >> If you just want lots of chart studies for free, then 
open a
>         >> thinkorswim account.  You get data feeds and charts with 
a lot of
>         >> studies at no charge.
>         >>
>         >> Best regards,
>         >> Dennis
>         >>
>         >> On Feb 21, 2009, at 11:16 AM, Tim wrote:
>         >>
>         >>> Hi TJ,
>         >>> I know many of the programmer types enjoy the many 
features you have
>         >>> added to AB over the years. However, is their any cha 
nce you are  
>         >>> going
>         >>> to add features for those of us who want charting 
upgrades,  
>         >>> additional
>         >>> charting studies etc? I am sure these features would be 
very well
>         >>> received also. Please consider this in future upgrades 
to AB. Thank
>         >>> you.
>         >>>
>         >>> Kindest regards,
>         >>>
>         >>>
>         >>> Tim
>         >>>
>         >>>
>         >>>
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>         >
>         >
>         >
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