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Hello,
You look only from "advanced" user point of view and you represent less than 10%
of AB users.
Contrary to your views, majority does not want touch AFL as long as possible.
They want more space, WITHOUT *any* coding.
And actually the most repeating complain about AmiBroker
is that it is "for programmers" because you need to code.
So, no, another "coders-only" solution is not a solution at all.
It may be add-on for advanced users, but never the mainstream solution.
Best regards,
Tomasz Janeczko
amibroker.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dennis Brown" <see3d@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2009 11:34 PM
Subject: Re: [amibroker] Re: Blank Space in AmiBroker 5.21.0 BETA
> Tomasz,
>
> IMHO, having this as an AFL setting would give a lot more value.
> Perhaps something like:
>
> SetChartOptions(mode, Flags, gridFlags, ymin, ymax, maxBlankBars =
> BlankBarsPreferencesSetting)
>
> If more than one pane in the chart, then the largest number wins.
>
> I believe something like this would satisfy all the different comments
> I have seen expressed about this and be fully backwards compatible.
>
> A chart would start out as it does now with the default number of
> blank bars.
> No scrolling would go beyond this number.
> If this SetChartOptions() specifies a new number, then one of two
> things happen, and I am not sure which would be better for most users
> (option 1 would be best for me):
>
> 1. Number of blank bars is set to the new number for this chart only
> (all panes), or
> 2. Max number of blank bars is increased to this new number, but must
> be scrolled to make it happen.
>
> Please consider this or something similar while you are working on
> this feature.
>
> Best regards,
> Dennis
>
>
>
> On Feb 15, 2009, at 1:25 PM, Tomasz Janeczko wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> It is "chart" (i.e. window) specific already.
>>
>> OK, I see that this feature creates some trouble for some of you,
>> so it will be optional, plus one enhancement will be added making it
>> easier to revert to "normal" without switching symbol.
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Tomasz Janeczko
>> amibroker.com
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "sidhartha70" <sidhartha70@xxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2009 4:35 PM
>> Subject: [amibroker] Re: Blank Space in AmiBroker 5.21.0 BETA
>>
>>
>>> Ignore that... of course each pane has a seperate chart ID.
>>>
>>> --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "sidhartha70" <sidhartha70@xxx>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Why not make it chart specific...? Under 'Axes & Grid' for
>>>> example...?
>>>>
>>>> --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Tomasz Janeczko" <groups@> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Re: [amibroker] Blank Space in AmiBroker 5.21.0 BETAHello,
>>>>>
>>>>> To restore default - simply change the symbol.
>>>>>
>>>>> It can not be pane-specific because multiple panes within one
>>>>> window
>>>> share the same scrollbar,
>>>>> plus same bar within same window need to line up with other panes,
>>>> otherwise
>>>>> vertical selector line would not work any more.
>>>>> The scrollbar belongs to chart window, so it is window specific.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>> Tomasz Janeczko
>>>>> amibroker.com
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: Herman
>>>>> To: Herman
>>>>> Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2009 2:07 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [amibroker] Blank Space in AmiBroker 5.21.0 BETA
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> btw, this seems overly complex... why can't we have a simple
>>>> SetOption("BlankBars",n) that is pane-specific? If users want to
>>>> control it from the chart they can use a Param().
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I think I read some ramblings about this topic before, sorry if i
>>>> repeat things. Just too many emails and not enough time...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> herman
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Sunday, February 15, 2009, 8:02:53 AM, you wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> I have rouble with the blank spaces... it seems i can
>>>> increase them, but not decrease them, and cannot click them back to
>>>> their default. To get my default I have to change ticker. I
>>>> obviously
>>>> misunderstand plain English or some critical points are missing.
>>>> Could
>>>> someone please tell me in simple steps what this means:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Blank area past last available quote can be now enlarged on
>>>> the fly by simply using > arrow in the scroll bar (and do what?) or
>>>> using mouse wheel (just roll the wheel past the last bar (this
>>>> scrolls
>>>> the chart...)"
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Is there a way to restore defaults?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Please tell it to me me as if I were a 3-year old ;-)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>> herman
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Friday, February 13, 2009, 3:25:14 PM, you wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you very much for your detailed and constructive
>>>> feedback. It is appreciated.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> As for +/-10 layers - I would need to check if this
>>>> would not degrade performance plus I am not sure if having 20
>>>> options
>>>>>
>>>>> in the Format->Z-order menu would be pleasing to the
>>>> eye, but anyway that will be considered.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Rectangle/ellipse fill color - yes it is blend of
>>>> background and study color at the time of creation of the study.
>>>> Subsequent changes
>>>>>
>>>>> of background color don't affect already drawn
>>>>> studies.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Blank space - yes it gets reset once you switch to
>>>> different symbol and yes it is so to enable you actually go back
>>>>>
>>>>> to "normal" once large space is no longer needed. I
>>>> also was thinking about checkbox to switch this off because
>>>>>
>>>>> as history teaches not everyone likes the changes, but
>>>> your suggestion of adding "maximum" setting is
>>>>>
>>>>> even better. Anyway I was just thinking that
>>>> on-the-fly extension is nice to have because it saves a lot of mouse
>>>> clicks
>>>>>
>>>>> (instead of going to Preferences over and over again).
>>>>>
>>>>> As for "pixel" dimension - I am not big fan of that as
>>>> that would generate lot of headache when coding as charts and scroll
>>>> bar logic is based
>>>>>
>>>>> on bars everywhere in the program as "pixel" is not
>>>> relevant and changes pretty often (zoom, printing, copy image,
>>>> metafile output
>>>>>
>>>>> - all these have completely different DPI).
>>>>>
>>>>> Anyway, something to think over.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Tomasz Janeczko
>>>>>
>>>>> amibroker.com
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>
>>>>> From: Dennis Brown
>>>>>
>>>>> To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 7:36 PM
>>>>>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [amibroker] AmiBroker 5.21.0 BETA
>>>>> released
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Tomasz,
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you for providing all the new charting
>>>> capabilities. I have much praise and also some other feedback
>>>> from my
>>>> first hour of use and adding the new AFL features to my program
>>>> already.
>>>>>
>>>>> . X-Y co-ordinate labels on axes implemented. Can be
>>>> controlled using View->X-Y labels menu.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> This is great! I can now ditch the one I just
>>>> finished writing -- LOL! Yours is much better. I like the shadow
>>>> effect to make it stand out better.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> . Plot, PlotForeign and PlotOHLC now have new
>>>> parameter zorder which defines the Z-axis position of given plot
>>>>>
>>>>> . All drawing tools now can define Z-order (from -5 to
>>>> +5).
>>>>>
>>>>> This is great, but it would be even better if it were
>>>> -10 to +10 layers, though I could get by with 8. 5 are enough
>>>> layers
>>>> for groups of plots, but not quite enough for my individual plots,
>>>> so
>>>> I still have to break my plotting routines from my modular function
>>>> generation code. With 10 layers above and below, I could have
>>>> enough
>>>> layers to make my functions truly modular.
>>>>>
>>>>> I absolutely love that the default study lines are
>>>> below the Gfx plots. My studies no longer obscure my on-chart
>>>> button
>>>> arrays and information tables.
>>>>>
>>>>> . new AFL functions ColorBlend
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> This is great! A way to select colors by stepping
>>>> through values in a way that makes sense to the eye. I will have to
>>>> think of a way to include this in my charts.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> . Rectangle and Ellipse drawing tool now are by
>>>> default SOLID, with default fill color being a blend between
>>>> background and selected drawing color, they are use ZOrder = -1
>>>> (behind regular plots) by default
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> This is a great improvement! Though I must not
>>>> understand what you mean by blend between the background. I changed
>>>> chart background colors and it did not change the color of the
>>>> oval I
>>>> was testing... Wait, I just figured it out. It uses the color of
>>>> the
>>>> background when you create the object only and does not change it
>>>> dynamically after that.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> . Blank area past last available quote can be now
>>>> enlarged on the fly by simply using > arrow in the scroll bar or
>>>> using
>>>> mouse wheel
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> This one is causing me some difficulties. I both love
>>>> it and hate it.
>>>>>
>>>>> I love that I can increase the space easily.
>>>>>
>>>>> I hate that it has no limits and once increased, it
>>>> becomes the new default for the position thumb all the way to the
>>>> right.
>>>>>
>>>>> I hate that if the symbol is switched, it does not
>>>> remember what it was last set to, though that seems to be the only
>>>> way
>>>> to reset it back to the default.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> If I want to increase the space, it is usually to a
>>>> constant PIXELs of blank space so that I can fit objects that are
>>>> pixel based to the right of the chart in the blank area. So being
>>>> able to increase the blank area if I am zooming out to many bars
>>>> is a
>>>> good thing.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> However, I very often use the scroll wheel to move
>>>> back an forth in the chart during real time trading. I move left to
>>>> see some last support level for setting a study point, then I give
>>>> the
>>>> scroll wheel a quick zip to get back to the right default position
>>>> again for trading the current bar. With this new mode, I zip right
>>>> past all the bars to a blank chart and am lost in white space.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> So this feature is causing me more problems than not
>>>> having it at all. I don't really need the ability to add unlimited
>>>> white space.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> What I need is one of the following:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 1a A way to turn this feature off, or
>>>>>
>>>>> 1b A maximum amount of white space preference that the
>>>> scroll wheel can't exceed -- preferably with either bars or pixels
>>>> options.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 1a A way to turn this feature off, and
>>>>>
>>>>> 2b A preferences checkbox that allows pixels rather
>>>> than bars of default white space, or
>>>>>
>>>>> 2c An AFL function to set the amount of future bars
>>>> that overrides the default.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you for being such a great developer that
>>>> listens to your customers!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Dennis
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Feb 13, 2009, at 9:52 AM, Tomasz Janeczko wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> AmiBroker 5.21.0 BETA is released now:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> http://www.amibroker.com/devlog/2009/02/13/amibroker-5210-beta-released/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Tomasz Janeczko
>>>>>
>>>>> amibroker.com
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>
>>
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>>
>>
>>
>
>
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