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How about something like this TJ... and obviously I write this as a
user not a programmer - so I have no idea how difficult this would be
for you to implement...
I use the mouse wheel mainly to navigate charts... or the scroll bar
with the mouse. How about a per previously, a maximum number of bars
to the right margin of chart is set by preferences, and is adhered to
by mouse scroll wheel & scroll bar operations.
Additionally, there is one more way to move along the x-axis of a
chart... a chart dragging operation. When the left hand mouse button
is clicked and held, the cursor changes to a little hand, and the
chart can be dragged left or right... using this operation ONLY the
user could, on the fly, add as much room to the right hand margin of
the chart as they wanted. However, once released, any further
operations with the mouse scroll wheel or scroll bar would cause the
maximum number of bars set in preferences to come back into force.
Obviously there are kinks of operation to be ironed out... but in
principle it would allow users to, on the fly, very quickly change
between enjoying a maximum number of bars operation OR adding bars to
the right hand margin of the chart without changing another parameter.
--- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Tomasz Janeczko" <groups@xxx> wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> You look only from "advanced" user point of view and you represent
less than 10%
> of AB users.
> Contrary to your views, majority does not want touch AFL as long as
possible.
> They want more space, WITHOUT *any* coding.
> And actually the most repeating complain about AmiBroker
> is that it is "for programmers" because you need to code.
>
> So, no, another "coders-only" solution is not a solution at all.
> It may be add-on for advanced users, but never the mainstream solution.
>
> Best regards,
> Tomasz Janeczko
> amibroker.com
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dennis Brown" <see3d@xxx>
> To: <amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2009 11:34 PM
> Subject: Re: [amibroker] Re: Blank Space in AmiBroker 5.21.0 BETA
>
>
> > Tomasz,
> >
> > IMHO, having this as an AFL setting would give a lot more value.
> > Perhaps something like:
> >
> > SetChartOptions(mode, Flags, gridFlags, ymin, ymax, maxBlankBars =
> > BlankBarsPreferencesSetting)
> >
> > If more than one pane in the chart, then the largest number wins.
> >
> > I believe something like this would satisfy all the different
comments
> > I have seen expressed about this and be fully backwards compatible.
> >
> > A chart would start out as it does now with the default number of
> > blank bars.
> > No scrolling would go beyond this number.
> > If this SetChartOptions() specifies a new number, then one of two
> > things happen, and I am not sure which would be better for most
users
> > (option 1 would be best for me):
> >
> > 1. Number of blank bars is set to the new number for this chart
only
> > (all panes), or
> > 2. Max number of blank bars is increased to this new number, but
must
> > be scrolled to make it happen.
> >
> > Please consider this or something similar while you are working on
> > this feature.
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Dennis
> >
> >
> >
> > On Feb 15, 2009, at 1:25 PM, Tomasz Janeczko wrote:
> >
> >> Hello,
> >>
> >> It is "chart" (i.e. window) specific already.
> >>
> >> OK, I see that this feature creates some trouble for some of you,
> >> so it will be optional, plus one enhancement will be added making it
> >> easier to revert to "normal" without switching symbol.
> >>
> >> Best regards,
> >> Tomasz Janeczko
> >> amibroker.com
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "sidhartha70" <sidhartha70@xxx>
> >> To: <amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2009 4:35 PM
> >> Subject: [amibroker] Re: Blank Space in AmiBroker 5.21.0 BETA
> >>
> >>
> >>> Ignore that... of course each pane has a seperate chart ID.
> >>>
> >>> --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "sidhartha70" <sidhartha70@>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Why not make it chart specific...? Under 'Axes & Grid' for
> >>>> example...?
> >>>>
> >>>> --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Tomasz Janeczko" <groups@>
wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Re: [amibroker] Blank Space in AmiBroker 5.21.0 BETAHello,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> To restore default - simply change the symbol.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> It can not be pane-specific because multiple panes within one
> >>>>> window
> >>>> share the same scrollbar,
> >>>>> plus same bar within same window need to line up with other panes,
> >>>> otherwise
> >>>>> vertical selector line would not work any more.
> >>>>> The scrollbar belongs to chart window, so it is window specific.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Best regards,
> >>>>> Tomasz Janeczko
> >>>>> amibroker.com
> >>>>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>>> From: Herman
> >>>>> To: Herman
> >>>>> Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2009 2:07 PM
> >>>>> Subject: Re: [amibroker] Blank Space in AmiBroker 5.21.0 BETA
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> btw, this seems overly complex... why can't we have a simple
> >>>> SetOption("BlankBars",n) that is pane-specific? If users want to
> >>>> control it from the chart they can use a Param().
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I think I read some ramblings about this topic before, sorry if i
> >>>> repeat things. Just too many emails and not enough time...
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> herman
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Sunday, February 15, 2009, 8:02:53 AM, you wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> I have rouble with the blank spaces... it seems i can
> >>>> increase them, but not decrease them, and cannot click them back to
> >>>> their default. To get my default I have to change ticker. I
> >>>> obviously
> >>>> misunderstand plain English or some critical points are missing.
> >>>> Could
> >>>> someone please tell me in simple steps what this means:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> "Blank area past last available quote can be now
enlarged on
> >>>> the fly by simply using > arrow in the scroll bar (and do what?) or
> >>>> using mouse wheel (just roll the wheel past the last bar (this
> >>>> scrolls
> >>>> the chart...)"
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Is there a way to restore defaults?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Please tell it to me me as if I were a 3-year old ;-)
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> thanks,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> herman
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Friday, February 13, 2009, 3:25:14 PM, you wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> Hello,
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thank you very much for your detailed and
constructive
> >>>> feedback. It is appreciated.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> As for +/-10 layers - I would need to check if this
> >>>> would not degrade performance plus I am not sure if having 20
> >>>> options
> >>>>>
> >>>>> in the Format->Z-order menu would be pleasing to the
> >>>> eye, but anyway that will be considered.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Rectangle/ellipse fill color - yes it is blend of
> >>>> background and study color at the time of creation of the study.
> >>>> Subsequent changes
> >>>>>
> >>>>> of background color don't affect already drawn
> >>>>> studies.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Blank space - yes it gets reset once you switch to
> >>>> different symbol and yes it is so to enable you actually go back
> >>>>>
> >>>>> to "normal" once large space is no longer needed. I
> >>>> also was thinking about checkbox to switch this off because
> >>>>>
> >>>>> as history teaches not everyone likes the
changes, but
> >>>> your suggestion of adding "maximum" setting is
> >>>>>
> >>>>> even better. Anyway I was just thinking that
> >>>> on-the-fly extension is nice to have because it saves a lot of
mouse
> >>>> clicks
> >>>>>
> >>>>> (instead of going to Preferences over and over
again).
> >>>>>
> >>>>> As for "pixel" dimension - I am not big fan of
that as
> >>>> that would generate lot of headache when coding as charts and
scroll
> >>>> bar logic is based
> >>>>>
> >>>>> on bars everywhere in the program as "pixel" is not
> >>>> relevant and changes pretty often (zoom, printing, copy image,
> >>>> metafile output
> >>>>>
> >>>>> - all these have completely different DPI).
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Anyway, something to think over.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Best regards,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Tomasz Janeczko
> >>>>>
> >>>>> amibroker.com
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>>>
> >>>>> From: Dennis Brown
> >>>>>
> >>>>> To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 7:36 PM
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Subject: Re: [amibroker] AmiBroker 5.21.0 BETA
> >>>>> released
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Tomasz,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thank you for providing all the new charting
> >>>> capabilities. I have much praise and also some other feedback
> >>>> from my
> >>>> first hour of use and adding the new AFL features to my program
> >>>> already.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> . X-Y co-ordinate labels on axes implemented. Can be
> >>>> controlled using View->X-Y labels menu.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> This is great! I can now ditch the one I just
> >>>> finished writing -- LOL! Yours is much better. I like the shadow
> >>>> effect to make it stand out better.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> . Plot, PlotForeign and PlotOHLC now have new
> >>>> parameter zorder which defines the Z-axis position of given plot
> >>>>>
> >>>>> . All drawing tools now can define Z-order (from
-5 to
> >>>> +5).
> >>>>>
> >>>>> This is great, but it would be even better if it were
> >>>> -10 to +10 layers, though I could get by with 8. 5 are enough
> >>>> layers
> >>>> for groups of plots, but not quite enough for my individual
plots,
> >>>> so
> >>>> I still have to break my plotting routines from my modular function
> >>>> generation code. With 10 layers above and below, I could have
> >>>> enough
> >>>> layers to make my functions truly modular.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I absolutely love that the default study lines are
> >>>> below the Gfx plots. My studies no longer obscure my on-chart
> >>>> button
> >>>> arrays and information tables.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> . new AFL functions ColorBlend
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> This is great! A way to select colors by stepping
> >>>> through values in a way that makes sense to the eye. I will
have to
> >>>> think of a way to include this in my charts.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> . Rectangle and Ellipse drawing tool now are by
> >>>> default SOLID, with default fill color being a blend between
> >>>> background and selected drawing color, they are use ZOrder = -1
> >>>> (behind regular plots) by default
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> This is a great improvement! Though I must not
> >>>> understand what you mean by blend between the background. I
changed
> >>>> chart background colors and it did not change the color of the
> >>>> oval I
> >>>> was testing... Wait, I just figured it out. It uses the color
of
> >>>> the
> >>>> background when you create the object only and does not change it
> >>>> dynamically after that.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> . Blank area past last available quote can be now
> >>>> enlarged on the fly by simply using > arrow in the scroll bar or
> >>>> using
> >>>> mouse wheel
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> This one is causing me some difficulties. I both
love
> >>>> it and hate it.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I love that I can increase the space easily.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I hate that it has no limits and once increased, it
> >>>> becomes the new default for the position thumb all the way to the
> >>>> right.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I hate that if the symbol is switched, it does not
> >>>> remember what it was last set to, though that seems to be the
only
> >>>> way
> >>>> to reset it back to the default.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> If I want to increase the space, it is usually to a
> >>>> constant PIXELs of blank space so that I can fit objects that are
> >>>> pixel based to the right of the chart in the blank area. So being
> >>>> able to increase the blank area if I am zooming out to many bars
> >>>> is a
> >>>> good thing.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> However, I very often use the scroll wheel to move
> >>>> back an forth in the chart during real time trading. I move
left to
> >>>> see some last support level for setting a study point, then I
give
> >>>> the
> >>>> scroll wheel a quick zip to get back to the right default position
> >>>> again for trading the current bar. With this new mode, I zip right
> >>>> past all the bars to a blank chart and am lost in white space.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> So this feature is causing me more problems than not
> >>>> having it at all. I don't really need the ability to add unlimited
> >>>> white space.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> What I need is one of the following:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 1a A way to turn this feature off, or
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 1b A maximum amount of white space preference
that the
> >>>> scroll wheel can't exceed -- preferably with either bars or pixels
> >>>> options.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 1a A way to turn this feature off, and
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 2b A preferences checkbox that allows pixels rather
> >>>> than bars of default white space, or
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 2c An AFL function to set the amount of future bars
> >>>> that overrides the default.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thank you for being such a great developer that
> >>>> listens to your customers!
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Best regards,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Dennis
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Feb 13, 2009, at 9:52 AM, Tomasz Janeczko wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Hello,
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> AmiBroker 5.21.0 BETA is released now:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
http://www.amibroker.com/devlog/2009/02/13/amibroker-5210-beta-released/
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Best regards,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Tomasz Janeczko
> >>>>>
> >>>>> amibroker.com
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
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