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Re: [amibroker] Re: The ultimate charting challenge for AB?



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Hi Anthony --

You wrote:
"It is not always the programs fault either. Take the British Pound for example. The futures contract trades on the CME (Chicago) but is really dependent on the FX market which is dominated by London. I am in Japan - how do I reconcile all of this information correctly in AB for proper backtesting?
It basically means that I really need to know the code I am using - and AB is great."

Isn't the large part of the decision on how to reconcile all the information dependent on how whatever system is developed will be traded?  Then backtest in a manner that the data presented to the backtest procedure is the same data that will be available at the moment of trading.

Thanks,
Howard
 

On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 7:21 AM, Anthony C. Abry <abry@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

It is not always the programs fault either. Take the British Pound for example. The futures contract trades on the CME (Chicago) but is really dependent on the FX market which is dominated by London. I am in Japan - how do I reconcile all of this information correctly in AB for proper backtesting?
It basically means that I really need to know the code I am using - and AB is great.

Cheers,







Herman wrote:

Thanks Anthony,


I am re-subscribing to eSignal today --- three weeks without it was too much to bear :-( I had numerous serious problems with IB data.


There is much to learn (for me) regarding accessing foreign markets, these are really administrative issues that i have been reluctant to spend time on. 


I have no doubt that the coding can be solved... arrays can be referred to a default time zone so that everything looks good for one's local time zone. All arrays have to be padded wrt a continuous DateTime reference array (in real-time). I was just hoping that someone would already be using a nice 24-hour global market display. To quote a well known phrase, i am sure "it is doable" ;-) the question is who can get the basics up an running. wrt H and L, perhaps it is possible to use the 24hr H and L?


I am sure this topic will be raised again - hopefully AB will someday be able to merge DBs in RT. 


Best regards,

herman





Sunday, February 1, 2009, 7:54:44 AM, you wrote:


>

Herman et al,


IB works and so does Esignal. Esignal is really the better choice - the data is pretty much the most reliable (that is a big reliable) and affordable in comparison with everything else. (Tradestation didn't even carry the dax until maybe 2 years ago), others are pretty expensive.


I basically trade the fx futures, like euro and pound, but occasionally have dabbled with the taiwan idx (singapore exchange), and the nikkei (also in singapore).


There are many pitfalls when trying to plot this on a chart. I am in Japan, the euro opens 5 pm Japan time and fizzles out around 2 am Japan time. If you want to have todays or yesterdays high plotted on a chart, the numbers will be all wrong because of the date change. 


That then necessiates changing the chart display via Symbol/Categories/Groups/Intraday button and basically checking every single step along the way. No display can be taken for granted and I basically always assume that what I am seeing is not what I was asking for. (isn't that called the null hypothesis?).


Same goes for code, if the code asks for the high of the day, is it really the high of the day or some other high - that is what I constantly have to ask.


The rest is all the same.




brian_z111 wrote: 

>Still would like to know if anybody is working with global charts... 

>anyone out there doing this?


Yes, a little.


I'm up to IntermarketTrading 101


I found some areas of interest but haven't pursued it in depth 

because the list of interesting trading opportunities is so long.


It gets a little tricky, depending on what you want to trade, because 

of different exchange times and the differences in traffic between 

the major and minor exchanges e.g. oil trading out of London ... 

Brent versus WestTexas .... some US traders play the early market via 

Europe? ... plus the US has more than one exhange competing for 

futures traders ? .... then there is some connection between 

Singapore oil trading and the NYM ... plus there is a new Futures in 

exchange in the Middle East (Dubai I think) where middle east oil is 

traded.


The latter two exchanges, and the trading that occurs there, is a 

little difficult to track.


I am still interested though .. I have no choice because the US 

trades at night, my time, so I have been forced to Europe even 

thought the US is my favourite market.


Some Aussie traders happily trade Asia ... even the esoteric markets 

like Indonesia but I haven't dug into them.


The attraction for the Aussies is that Asia is in our time zone and 

also our neighbour ... I guess that people who travel there for 

business a lot start to take an interest in their exchanges.


The mechanism I use is eSignal and my broker, who provides clunky 

Java charts and easy international access to the top stocks on the 

top international exchanges plus the major currencies and major 

futures.


I am doing this from Aus, with a local bank account, at the moment.


Sorry, I kept away from IB until the sun comes out on Wall St again, 

because the accounts are held at Citibank, NewYork and I don't want 

to be there at the moment.


 


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