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Re: [amibroker] Re: Sell and Buy on different days



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you are right on this Mike.  Testing a system like this using a random positionscore is a good indication if it can be made into a system that can be used in the practice. Andy has an idea that is tough to execute but not impossible in my opinion,
 
regards, Ed
 
 
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Mike
Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 8:37 PM
Subject: [amibroker] Re: Sell and Buy on different days

Andy,

Use caution when backtesting EOD strategies where there are more
signals than there are funds or positions to be filled;

If your strategy is to buy OCA, what logic are you putting in place to
determine which symbol to buy when multiple symbols hit your limit
order on the same bar?

Since you are using EOD data, you have no idea which symbol would have
hit the limit order first. You only know that x of y symbols hit the
limit order on that day.

AmiBroker will just select the first in the list (alphabetically?). As
such, your backtest results will be heavily biased in favor of that
ordering and will not reflect live trading results.

Generally, PositionScore can be used to influence ordering. But, an
OCA approach by definition does not follow PositionScore.

So, you might want to modify your custom backtester code to randomly
select from the available signals and set the remaining ones to
PosSize 0 in order to override the default prioritization. Then run
your backtest many times and take the average of the results as a best
guess estimate (i.e. Monte Carlo Permutations)

Mike

--- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxps.com, Andrew Senft <senft@xxx> wrote:
>
> Hey Ed,
>
> Thank you so much for the code on the Amibroker Yahoo group board!
It
> seems to be working from what I've seen so far. I'm doing an
> optimization on that particular code (your first code) right now.
>
> The second code (the one from your email) didn't work. That is,
there
> were sales of one stock and buy of another stock on the same day.
Not
> sure what your code was doing but it gave a lot bigger profits using
the
> backtester. Could you comment on this please?
>
> Mind you that this is my first attempt to writing code for any stock
> type software. I'm still using the 30 day free trial of the
Amibroker
> software but I think that I'm getting closer as I'm chugging along.
>
> My agenda is to use this on a basket of ETF's. Perhaps 10 to 20
or
> so. Not sure how many I need since the 30 day trail backtests up
to a
> basket of 5 stocks. My idea is to place the possible stock trades
> using the whole basket of ETF stocks at night for the next trading
> session. I have an IB account so I figure I could use an OCA limit
> order. Basically whenever a trade gets hit first (meets the limit
price
> level), it trades. The other possible trades all get canceled right
> away. So one trade actually goes through for the day.
>
> BTW, I like ETF's because the drawdowns are not as scary.... okay,
> usually not as scary. Ha! I've been backtesting with:
>
> QQQQ, DIA, SPY, MDY, IWM
>
> Thank you again!
>
> Andy
>
> Edward Pottasch wrote:
> >
> > Andy,
> >
> > I have sent an alternative solution to your private Email. Let me
know
> > if you received it.
> >
> > Ed
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > *From:* Andy <mailto:senft@...>
> > *To:* amibroker@xxxxxxxxxps.com
<mailto:amibroker@xxxxxxxxxps.com>
> > *Sent:* Thursday, January 29, 2009 12:40 PM
> > *Subject:* [amibroker] Re: Sell and Buy on different days
> >
> > This is got to be a very simple task but unfortunately
AmiBroker told
> > me that I would have to write Backtester Interface code for
this. I'm
> > sure this has been done a million times. Anyone have sample
code?
> > I'm using EOD data to trade one stock at a time from a basket
of
> > stocks. The problem is that a selling of a stock can occur on
the
> > same day as a buy of *another* stock. Of course the problem is
that
> > the sell trade can occur after the buy trade.
> >
> > --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxps.com
> > <mailto:amibroker%40yahoogroups.com>, "Andy" <senft@> wrote:
> > >
> > > How do I fix the below code so it doesn't buy a different
stock on a
> > > sell day?
> > >
> > > --------------------------------------------------------
> > > // Backtester Options
> > > SetOption("MaxOpenPositions", 1 );
> > > SetOption("AllowSameBarExit", False);
> > >
> > > // Optimization numbers
> > > BuyPeriod = Optimize("BuyPeriod",16,10,20,2);
> > > BuyFactor = Optimize("BuyFactor",1.2,0.5,1.5,.1);
> > > SellPeriod = Optimize("SellPeriod",20,10,20,2);
> > > SellFactor = Optimize("SellFactor",0.8,0.5,1.5,.1);
> > >
> > > // ATR formulas
> > > TodaysBuyTarget = High - BuyFactor * ATR(BuyPeriod);
> > > YesterdaysBuyTarget = Ref(High,-1) - BuyFactor *
> > Ref(ATR(BuyPeriod),-1);
> > > YesterdaysSellTarget = Ref(Low,-1) + SellFactor *
> > Ref(ATR(SellPeriod),-1);
> > >
> > > // Buy/Sell signals and prices
> > > Buy = YesterdaysBuyTarget > Low;
> > > BuyPrice = IIf(YesterdaysBuyTarget > Open, Open,
> > YesterdaysBuyTarget);
> > > Sell = YesterdaysSellTarget < High;
> > > SellPrice = IIf(YesterdaysSellTarget < Open, Open,
> > YesterdaysSellTarget);
> > > Buy = ExRem(Buy,Sell);
> > > Sell = ExRem(Sell,Buy);
> > >
> >
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------------------
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