--- In
 amibroker@xxxxxxxxxps.com, "Grover Yowell" 
        <gyowell1@xxx> wrote:
>
> I'm with you 
        Herman.
>
 >
 >
 > 
        As to the many comments about it is hard to find the information 
        you
want
> even though it is there (somewhere), I agree. But 
        now that I have re-
> discovered the Google site search feature 
        and using that can find almost
> anything with a one line entry on 
        the internet. In the Google
toolbar the
> search is : whatIwant 
        site:
www.amibroker.com>
 >
 >
 > 
        So I am wondering if 90% of the problem of needing a new Help 
        manual
would
> be solved by simply making available a 
        convenient Google site search
line on
> the AMIbroker Home 
        page. It has sure worked for me. I have been
able to
> find 
        things in the UKB or the KB that I knew were there but couldn't
find 
        at
> a later 
        time.
>
 >
 >
 > 
        Sometimes it is better to solve a part of the problem that is 
        easy
rather
> than the whole 
        thing.
>
 >
 >
 > 
        Just a 
        thought,
>
 >
 >
 > 
        Grover
>
 >
 >
 >
 >
 >
 >
 > 
        From:
 amibroker@xxxxxxxxxps.com [mailto:
amibroker@xxxxxxxxxps.com]
On Behalf
> 
        Of Herman
> Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2008 2:49 AM
> To: 
        George Loyd
> Subject: Re[2]: [amibroker] Help Manual -> 
        UKB
>
 >
 >
 > 
        I agree 
        100%.
>
 >
 >
 > 
        If anybody really wants a glossary he/she can have it 
        published
tomorrow on
> the UKB. Tomasz created the UKB for 
        this type of use and he already gave
> permission to draw on 
        existing AB Help content if used on that site.
Don't
> 
        underestimate the value of this. It means that you already have 
        95%
of the
> work, structure and content, done for you by 
        Tomasz. I have no idea
what all
> the fuss is about. I can 
        further clear copyright issues with him if
you want
> to go 
        this 
        route.
 >
 >
 >
 > 
        The UKB comment field's can be used to add notes, code 
        snippets,
references,
> etc. Volunteers can screen, polish, and 
        add this to the main item to
make it
> look nice - with minimal 
        effort. The tools are there and they are
already
> supported by 
        AmiBroker. Just dump the whole thing in one post from Word
> 
        (minimal formatting) on the UKB (contact me for details) and the 
        search
> engine will find the required item. The UKB will have 
        more
permanence than
> any other private 
        site.
>
 >
 >
 > 
        I think 90% of all the talk in this thread is due to a desire to 
        try
some
> new layouts and try a new glossy user interface. All 
        that won't add any
> value to the contents of the site; it only 
        adds lots of work to set
it up
> and 
        maintain.
>
 >
 >
 > 
        If you want something done, simply do 
        it.
 >
 >
 >
 > 
        Best regards,
>
 > 
        herman
 >
 >
 >
 >
 >
 >
 >
 >
 >
 > 
        Sunday, August 31, 2008, 12:58:43 AM, you 
        wrote:
>
 >
 >
 >
 > 
        >
 >
 > I don't reply 
        to many emails - in fact VERY few, but this one and
many of
> 
        the replies forced me to write 
        something.
>
 >
 >
 > 
        Maybe AmiBroker should be more like MetaStock where errors remain
for 
        many
> upgrade cycles ( ie months to a year or more) and NO BETA 
        upgrades ever
> occur. In the 6 1/2 years I have used AmiBroker 
        Tomasz has provided
> literally far more than 100 beta versions - 
        FREE of charge, often fixing
> bugs within a few hours to a couple 
        of days. No other investment
software
> that I know of does 
        this that fast. MetaStock's Enhance Backtester or
> Optimizer 
        still has included errors in its handling of returns -
which in 
        my
> opinion renders it less than useful for "real" investment 
        work where
money
> is on the line. Enlighten me if I am wrong. 
        Each "one tenth" upgrade for
> MetaStock costs $99 or more while 
        Tomasz was providing 5 "one tenth"
> upgrades and MANY betas FREE 
        for about the same price. Checking
MetaStock's
> manual - 
        AmiBroker's is superior. Now I realize this is a 
        comparison
with
> only one other available software package, 
        but others will fail to
generate
> much improved comparisons. I 
        think I would rather still have what
AmiBroker
> 
        provides.
>
 >
 >
 > 
        Furthermore Tomasz is a virtual Help file to this message 
        board,
although I
> think he would rather be programing new 
        features for AmiBroker than
> answering questions 
        here.
>
 >
 >
 > 
        Each investment software package has their own programming 
        language.
As new
> features and functions are included into the 
        language, it becomes more
> difficult to use and understand. The 
        added complexity generates more
> questions. No other investment 
        software package has generated much
in the
> way of third party 
        reference texts, other the few Tradestation has.
Howard
> 
        Bandy's book is the first of several I foresee for 
        AmiBroker.
>
 >
 >
 > 
        Tomasz has been chided for "for failing to provide a 5.1 Manual 
        yet"
- geez
> give the man a chance - he will get it out ASAP. 
        You can't have
everything
> at once - new features are better 
        than a new Manual the day the upgrade
> comes out. People here on 
        the message board will help your
understanding of
> new 
        features if the Readme file and examples doesn't clear up 
        the
problems.
>
 >
 >
 > 
        What other investment software package has been created 
        and
maintained by
> one man that rivals the functionality of 
        AmiBroker? AmiBroker is
evolving
> faster than any other 
        package I am familiar with - or am I just wearing
> "rose-colored" 
        glasses?
>
 >
 >
 > 
        I could write more but I think I have made my opinion clear. Yes I 
        want
> more, but I can be patient - it WILL 
        come.
>
 >
 >
 > 
        Regards,
>
 > George 
        Loyd
>
 >
 >
 >
 >
 >
 >
 > 
        brian_z111 
        wrote:
 >
 >
 >
 > 
        There are far too many Help Manual questions posted in this 
        forum.
>
 >
 >
 > 
        This takes up our valueable time answering questions that should 
        have
 >
 > been answered 
        by 
        AmiBroker.
>
 >
 >
 > 
        In fact they waste far more time than OT 
        posts.
>
 >
 >
 > 
        Our precious time would be far better spent answering more 
        interesting
 >
 > 
        questions.
>
 >
 >
 > 
        Some of the features in AB aren't explained in the manual, some 
        things
 >
 > are out of 
        date and sometimes the explanations are a bit 
        cryptic.
>
 >
 >
 > 
        Example:
>
 >
 >
 > 
        Prettify was added to the Formula Editor in beta version 
        5.04
>
 > - included in devlog under 
        version 5.05 Feb08
>
 > - official release 
        v5.10 in June08 which includes manual 
        5.10
>
 >
 >
 > 
        Ami website PDF manual is still version 
        5.00
>
 >
 >
 > 
        - Search PDF for prettify == nothing
>
 > 
        - Search AB manual version 5.1 for prettify == 
        nothing
>
 > - Use AB site search engine 
        == nothing
>
 > - 
        Google
 amibroker.com == 3 hits from 
        devlog
>
 > - devlog records release but 
        has no info about it and no explanation 
        in
 >
 > the read 
        me
>
 > - searched KB == 
        nothing
>
 > - searched UKB == 
        nothing
>
 >
 >
 > 
        The screenshot of the FE edit dropdown menu, in the Help Manual is 
        out
 >
 > of date (at 
        least it looks different to my version 
        5.10)
>
 >
 >