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> You are right in many aspects. However, I think newbies and the
rest
> of us too would be more willing to look for answers if we had a
single
> place to go to where we could search across the resources.
I agree. Yet, as Herman pointed out, this is what the UKB was
supposed to be. Unfortunately, it still has not lived up to its
potential as too few have been willing/able to make a contribution.
AmiBroker could certainly use more in depth documentation. But in the
meantime, we have not ourselves stepped in to fill the gap.
Given a shortage of resources, I am content to struggle through the
learning curve so long as I have some level of confidence that the
software will deliver in the end. For me, AmiBroker has lived up to
that expectation.
> I am amazed at how helpful people are to the extent that they
write
> out a complete solution from the first hint of a question.
> Unfortunately that makes others dependent on the list for free
coding
> services instead of a resource to learn how to do it themselves.
To some degree you are right. And, I am guilty of handing out code as
you describe. Yet, every coding guide always starts with a
complete "Hello World" example. Just giving snippets here and there
with possibly hours or days between clarifications and follow up
questions can be as frustrating as not being able to find the
documentation in the first place. Not to mention artificially
dragging on the life of a thread that could otherwise so easily be
put to rest.
Admittedly, this forum is not a coding guide, and your point is well
taken. It would be best if posters made some attempt at finding an
answer on their own. Also, that those replying made some effort to
direct the poster through the inclusion of well selected links or
descriptive comments in any code sample given.
Personally, I come from a programming background, with professional
coding experience in multiple high level languages. But, none of
those are array based. And, none of them are geared towards purely
financial applications.
It was the direct result of a complete solution to my initial
question that clarified much for me and presented me with some
understanding of what was possible. Sometimes it is the working
example, even a simple one, that provides the all important "context
switch".
I am forever grateful for that working sample.
Mike
--- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Dennis Brown <see3d@xxx> wrote:
>
> Bill,
>
> You are right in many aspects. However, I think newbies and the
rest
> of us too would be more willing to look for answers if we had a
single
> place to go to where we could search across the resources.
>
> There will be a never ending source of newbies, so just saying to
go
> to this resource and then that resource, then another resource
until
> you discover that either the question has not been answered in the
way
> that you can understand it, or more likely you don't know the
right
> vocabulary and concepts to find what you are looking for. Then
they
> come to this list and ask after wasting several frustrating hours
or
> days, and if the answer is that you can't do such a thing anyway
it
> really turns one away from even trying next time! When I first
> started, I did not know what to call things, so most of my
searches
> failed.
>
> I try to make sure that I have at least made some kind of effort
> myself before asking on this list. As I have learned more, I come
to
> the list less often and with more difficult technical questions
and
> only occasionally get a satisfactory answer unless Tomasz answers.
>
> I am amazed at how helpful people are to the extent that they
write
> out a complete solution from the first hint of a question.
> Unfortunately that makes others dependent on the list for free
coding
> services instead of a resource to learn how to do it themselves.
I
> try to give the basic idea about how to solve the problem without
> coding it up --as if I had time to do that for others while I am
> always struggling to find enough time to do my own coding anyway.
>
> It is encouraging to me to see newbies bring a chunk of AFL that
they
> wrote and ask why it will not do what they were trying to do. I
shows
> initiative and that means they will learn from the answer.
>
> Sometimes it is appropriate to code an example for something out
of
> the ordinary --which becomes something to be referred to later.
>
> I think it is appropriate for a newbie to ask basic questions on
the
> list like, can X be done in AFL and what do I search for to find
out
> how?
>
> Then a pointer to the single search page with a nice keyword gets
them
> started on the right path. To paraphrase:
>
> Give a person a fish and he will eat it and come back for
another.
> Teach a person to fish and he can feed himself.
>
> From the developers point of view, this list is valuable in one
sense
> in that it provides a window into what are the stumbling blocks to
> understanding AB/AFL. The common themes point to a need for some
> additional ways of explaining, organizing, or presenting those
problem
> areas in a new way.
>
> Best regards,
> Dennis
>
> On Aug 27, 2008, at 10:41 PM, wavemechanic wrote:
>
> > The problem, imo, is not the format but rather that too many are
> > willing to provide answers to elementary questions over and over
> > again instead of simply directing the person to the Users Guide
or
> > UKB or past messages (use Yahoo search). The individual is
> > responsible for extracting the information needed from the
available
> > documentation/messages and only resort to this forum when they
hit a
> > wall. Instead, many of the new users use this forum in lieu of
> > doing their homework. If they were forced to find the answers,
I
> > suspect the number of messages would drop by at least 50% and
more
> > interesting discussions would take place.
> >
> > Bill
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: James
> > To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 8:24 PM
> > Subject: Re: [amibroker] Re: 'Rule Based' versus 'Discretionary'
> > trading...
> >
> > IMO, this is the main problem with our format. First thing I
asked
> > on this forum was about Plot Shapes. Just couldn't wait to get
> > started or read anything. Since that time, I bet similar plot
> > questions have come around 100 times. It is very hard and time
> > consuming to search this list. If we had a forum/board format
where
> > all threads relating to plot were in a certain section, I think
it
> > would help people study more and get frustrated less. This has
been
> > discussed before and I know most people want emails and don't
want
> > to browse a board, but there is a lot of redundancy on this list.
> >
> >
> >
>
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