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Hello,
All problems you raised are now fixed in AmiBroker 5.13 BETA:
http://www.amibroker.com/devlog/2008/06/27/amibroker-5130-beta-released/
Best regards,
Tomasz Janeczko
amibroker.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dennis Brown" <see3d@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2008 2:28 AM
Subject: Re: [amibroker] Re: Study Charting dare I say bugs...
> Thank you all for the many responses that made this thread a good
> exchange of ideas well beyond the original post. I especially want to
> thank Tomasz for his responses and for taking the time to carefully
> consider the issues presented and for taking action on the items he
> decided were important.
>
> The area of drawing tools enhancements seems to have sparked interest
> in a number of people on this thread, and also from private messages
> to me. Perhaps Tomasz will address enhancing this area as part of the
> AB roadmap for future releases based on suggestions made by users who
> are familiar with useful drawing tools in other programs, or perhaps
> through the plug-in or enhanced AFL routes suggested here. Whatever
> the means, drawing studies are important for some types of trading
> that AmiBroker is also suited to do. Especially to hybrid methods
> that combine AFL and studies. Most traders have incredible high speed
> pattern recognition engines connected directly to their eyes. 8^)
>
> Best regards,
> Dennis
>
>
> On Jun 24, 2008, at 7:20 PM, tradinghumble wrote:
>
>> Dennis - I agree with all your points and support them. Although AB
>> has been advancing in the system development arena the basic charting
>> and drawing is still behind tools like Metastock (which has not
>> received an update in 10 years).... overall a good product but would
>> rate it 5 out 10 in charting/drawing.
>>
>> -- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Dennis Brown <see3d@xxx> wrote:
>>>
>>> You make an interesting point. I belong to a trading board (paid
>>> subscription) with a number of very helpful posters. Every month
>>> everyone on the board is asked to email the names of the two posters
>>> they would like to honor with their votes because of help they
>>> received, help they saw rendered to others, or just because they made
>>> them laugh with their posts. In other words, voting for two who make
>>> the board a better place to hang out.
>>>
>>> The two with the most votes are named posters of the month, an honor
>>> bestowed by their peers. They also receive an extra month added to
>>> their subscription end date (worth $50) by the owner of the service.
>>>
>>> Of course the financial honorarium is not large compared to the work
>>> put into posting, but it is the recognition by both their peers and
>>> the company that is well received. Others who received votes are
>>> also
>>> mentioned by name in the announcement of the winners.
>>>
>>> I know on this list people are appreciative of help they receive and
>>> offer their thanks. Perhaps something like this could encourage just
>>> a bit more participation by voters and votees. Worth considering
>>> IMHO.
>>>
>>> BR,
>>> Dennis
>>>
>>> On Jun 23, 2008, at 4:19 AM, reinsley wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> A missing point in the ABous World is the help as MicroSoft did with
>>>> the MVP. It's one of the most powerful thing to spread a software
>>>> and
>>>> the knowledge.
>>>>
>>>> The AB product is so complex to send a simple order for real
>>>> through a
>>>> basic reversal trading system that nobody as time to help the
>>>> beginners. Master users have not interest to do so. Only complex
>>>> problems are relevant and worst posting, between high level brains.
>>>>
>>>> TJ should offer title and financial advantages for the most active
>>>> helpers. He will save time and gain money.
>>>>
>>>> Such user's help forum give many solutions to get round unsolved
>>>> issues for both advanced users and beginners as well.
>>>>
>>>> No doubt that the AB sofware will move toward a user friendly
>>>> interface in ten years without loosing it's versatility.
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Dennis Brown <see3d@> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Friends,
>>>>>
>>>>> AmiBroker is a wonderful program for many things. In fact I use
>>>>> only
>>>>> a fraction of its total capability for my trading style. I trade
>>>>> only
>>>>> single ticker (futures) real time and write whole trading systems
>>>>> just
>>>>> in AFL in indicator mode. This is actually more like the
>>>>> traditional
>>>>> chart trading that is offered by many brokers.
>>>>>
>>>>> I would expect that AB, which supports all these functions as a
>>>>> very
>>>>> basic operating mode would be at least as good as other charting
>>>>> programs.
>>>>>
>>>>> However, even though the fundamental operations are there (and I
>>>>> think
>>>>> potentially better), the interface (either design or implementation
>>>>> bugs --I don't know which) has made it hard for me to use this
>>>>> product
>>>>> for drawing even basic lines on the charts while trading. In
>>>>> fact, I
>>>>> need a second chart from my broker's application open to the same
>>>>> ticker just so I can draw lines where I want them even though AB
>>>>> would
>>>>> be superior at this if it were not for the bugs. This has been
>>>>> going
>>>>> on with me for over a year now and it is costing me.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have other trading friends that I have recommended try AB in the
>>>>> last week, and I am embarrassed to think what they will say to me
>>>>> when
>>>>> they figure out that these basic features don't work properly. I
>>>>> have
>>>>> actually refrained from recommending AB to them for quite a while
>>>>> --
>>>>> hoping these things would be fixed first.
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't know how many other traders are frustrated by the same
>>>>> bugs,
>>>>> but if you are, please join the conversation so that Tomasz knows
>>>>> that
>>>>> this is important to you also and perhaps we can get some higher
>>>>> priority on getting the study charting to work properly.
>>>>>
>>>>> Here is a short list of my frustrating bugs --there are others on
>>>>> the
>>>>> suggestions and bug lists, but I am only pointing out the ones that
>>>>> cost profits by either making it very slow to do a simple operation
>>>>> that makes one lose the trade opportunity, or creates frustration
>>>>> and
>>>>> emotion which takes one out of the trading "Zone", or makes the
>>>>> line
>>>>> drawn correctly to become inaccurate causing one to miss the
>>>>> trigger
>>>>> point for a trade. If I have missed any that you feel are costing
>>>>> you
>>>>> profits (not the nice to have pretty things) than please add them
>>>>> to
>>>>> the conversation.
>>>>>
>>>>> #726. Handles from a selected study line are not respected. Often
>>>>> several lines are anchored or pass through the same pivot points.
>>>>> Price levels, Trend lines, Forks, Fibs, etc., often use a common
>>>>> pivot
>>>>> point. However, as a trade progresses, new pivots become more
>>>>> important and the lines need to be adjusted in real time. It is
>>>>> easy
>>>>> to select a study just by clicking on it in a spot where it is
>>>>> unique,
>>>>> and the handles will appear along the line. However, unlike any
>>>>> other
>>>>> charting program I have ever used, clicking and dragging on the
>>>>> visible handle will not usually work properly if any other study
>>>>> crosses very close to that handle. The problem is that AB will
>>>>> grab
>>>>> the earliest drawn study and not the selected one --it will un-
>>>>> select
>>>>> the one you selected and select the oldest one and drag it instead.
>>>>> After playing around for a few valuable seconds trying to grab the
>>>>> right line, I end up having to move the whole line away from its
>>>>> current location and reposition all its handles. Very frustrating
>>>>> and
>>>>> takes the time and concentration away from the trading action.
>>>>>
>>>>> #728. Horizontal price levels do not stay horizontal. The
>>>>> horizontal
>>>>> lines (price levels) do not snap to a bar with the magnet mode on.
>>>>> They just are placed at the cursor level. However, if you click on
>>>>> the line, it jumps to an angled line that snaps to the bar on the
>>>>> left
>>>>> side of the screen. Its operation is just bizarre and causes
>>>>> errors
>>>>> in placement of the price level after the fact. Completely
>>>>> unacceptable behavior for trading.
>>>>>
>>>>> #890. Study handles change when off screen. Lets say you have the
>>>>> magnet on and are zoomed out and draw a trend line between two
>>>>> peaks.
>>>>> Next you zoom in on the trading action so that only the right hand
>>>>> handle is visible on the chart. Now say the prices have advanced
>>>>> to a
>>>>> new peak and you need to adjust the right handle to the new peak
>>>>> (this
>>>>> is a very common occurrence). Most of the time, that handle that
>>>>> is
>>>>> off screen jumps to a new bar position and is no longer on the peak
>>>>> you selected. Of course that changes the slope of the trend line
>>>>> to
>>>>> the wrong one, but you never know it when trading and you end up
>>>>> placing bad breakout trades because the line is in the wrong place
>>>>> now. Completely unacceptable behavior for trading.
>>>>>
>>>>> #990. Drag shadow is on the wrong bar. When dragging a study,
>>>>> there
>>>>> is a thin "shadow" line that shows which bar you have dragged the
>>>>> handles to. However, when the mouse is released, the study gets
>>>>> moved
>>>>> to a different bar than the one indicated by the shadow. This
>>>>> wastes
>>>>> valuable time with two or three attempts to figure out which wrong
>>>>> bar
>>>>> to put the shadow on to get the study to go where you want it.
>>>>> This
>>>>> is an annoyance.
>>>>>
>>>>> And here is one more that I just found today. If I draw trend
>>>>> lines
>>>>> on a one minute bar snapped to peaks, then switch to a 5 minute
>>>>> view,
>>>>> the trend lines are shown on the wrong 5 minute bars. And heaven
>>>>> help
>>>>> me if I select the line in that view, because it will snap to these
>>>>> wrong bars.
>>>>>
>>>>> There you have my short list. Please speak up if these issues
>>>>> affect
>>>>> you.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>> Dennis
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
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