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Dennis - I agree with all your points and support them. Although AB
has been advancing in the system development arena the basic charting
and drawing is still behind tools like Metastock (which has not
received an update in 10 years).... overall a good product but would
rate it 5 out 10 in charting/drawing.
-- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Dennis Brown <see3d@xxx> wrote:
>
> You make an interesting point. I belong to a trading board (paid
> subscription) with a number of very helpful posters. Every month
> everyone on the board is asked to email the names of the two posters
> they would like to honor with their votes because of help they
> received, help they saw rendered to others, or just because they made
> them laugh with their posts. In other words, voting for two who make
> the board a better place to hang out.
>
> The two with the most votes are named posters of the month, an honor
> bestowed by their peers. They also receive an extra month added to
> their subscription end date (worth $50) by the owner of the service.
>
> Of course the financial honorarium is not large compared to the work
> put into posting, but it is the recognition by both their peers and
> the company that is well received. Others who received votes are also
> mentioned by name in the announcement of the winners.
>
> I know on this list people are appreciative of help they receive and
> offer their thanks. Perhaps something like this could encourage just
> a bit more participation by voters and votees. Worth considering IMHO.
>
> BR,
> Dennis
>
> On Jun 23, 2008, at 4:19 AM, reinsley wrote:
>
> >
> > A missing point in the ABous World is the help as MicroSoft did with
> > the MVP. It's one of the most powerful thing to spread a software and
> > the knowledge.
> >
> > The AB product is so complex to send a simple order for real through a
> > basic reversal trading system that nobody as time to help the
> > beginners. Master users have not interest to do so. Only complex
> > problems are relevant and worst posting, between high level brains.
> >
> > TJ should offer title and financial advantages for the most active
> > helpers. He will save time and gain money.
> >
> > Such user's help forum give many solutions to get round unsolved
> > issues for both advanced users and beginners as well.
> >
> > No doubt that the AB sofware will move toward a user friendly
> > interface in ten years without loosing it's versatility.
> >
> > Regards
> >
> >
> > --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Dennis Brown <see3d@> wrote:
> >>
> >> Friends,
> >>
> >> AmiBroker is a wonderful program for many things. In fact I use only
> >> a fraction of its total capability for my trading style. I trade
> >> only
> >> single ticker (futures) real time and write whole trading systems
> >> just
> >> in AFL in indicator mode. This is actually more like the traditional
> >> chart trading that is offered by many brokers.
> >>
> >> I would expect that AB, which supports all these functions as a very
> >> basic operating mode would be at least as good as other charting
> >> programs.
> >>
> >> However, even though the fundamental operations are there (and I
> >> think
> >> potentially better), the interface (either design or implementation
> >> bugs --I don't know which) has made it hard for me to use this
> >> product
> >> for drawing even basic lines on the charts while trading. In fact, I
> >> need a second chart from my broker's application open to the same
> >> ticker just so I can draw lines where I want them even though AB
> >> would
> >> be superior at this if it were not for the bugs. This has been going
> >> on with me for over a year now and it is costing me.
> >>
> >> I have other trading friends that I have recommended try AB in the
> >> last week, and I am embarrassed to think what they will say to me
> >> when
> >> they figure out that these basic features don't work properly. I
> >> have
> >> actually refrained from recommending AB to them for quite a while --
> >> hoping these things would be fixed first.
> >>
> >> I don't know how many other traders are frustrated by the same bugs,
> >> but if you are, please join the conversation so that Tomasz knows
> >> that
> >> this is important to you also and perhaps we can get some higher
> >> priority on getting the study charting to work properly.
> >>
> >> Here is a short list of my frustrating bugs --there are others on the
> >> suggestions and bug lists, but I am only pointing out the ones that
> >> cost profits by either making it very slow to do a simple operation
> >> that makes one lose the trade opportunity, or creates frustration and
> >> emotion which takes one out of the trading "Zone", or makes the line
> >> drawn correctly to become inaccurate causing one to miss the trigger
> >> point for a trade. If I have missed any that you feel are costing
> >> you
> >> profits (not the nice to have pretty things) than please add them to
> >> the conversation.
> >>
> >> #726. Handles from a selected study line are not respected. Often
> >> several lines are anchored or pass through the same pivot points.
> >> Price levels, Trend lines, Forks, Fibs, etc., often use a common
> >> pivot
> >> point. However, as a trade progresses, new pivots become more
> >> important and the lines need to be adjusted in real time. It is easy
> >> to select a study just by clicking on it in a spot where it is
> >> unique,
> >> and the handles will appear along the line. However, unlike any
> >> other
> >> charting program I have ever used, clicking and dragging on the
> >> visible handle will not usually work properly if any other study
> >> crosses very close to that handle. The problem is that AB will grab
> >> the earliest drawn study and not the selected one --it will un-select
> >> the one you selected and select the oldest one and drag it instead.
> >> After playing around for a few valuable seconds trying to grab the
> >> right line, I end up having to move the whole line away from its
> >> current location and reposition all its handles. Very frustrating
> >> and
> >> takes the time and concentration away from the trading action.
> >>
> >> #728. Horizontal price levels do not stay horizontal. The
> >> horizontal
> >> lines (price levels) do not snap to a bar with the magnet mode on.
> >> They just are placed at the cursor level. However, if you click on
> >> the line, it jumps to an angled line that snaps to the bar on the
> >> left
> >> side of the screen. Its operation is just bizarre and causes errors
> >> in placement of the price level after the fact. Completely
> >> unacceptable behavior for trading.
> >>
> >> #890. Study handles change when off screen. Lets say you have the
> >> magnet on and are zoomed out and draw a trend line between two peaks.
> >> Next you zoom in on the trading action so that only the right hand
> >> handle is visible on the chart. Now say the prices have advanced
> >> to a
> >> new peak and you need to adjust the right handle to the new peak
> >> (this
> >> is a very common occurrence). Most of the time, that handle that is
> >> off screen jumps to a new bar position and is no longer on the peak
> >> you selected. Of course that changes the slope of the trend line to
> >> the wrong one, but you never know it when trading and you end up
> >> placing bad breakout trades because the line is in the wrong place
> >> now. Completely unacceptable behavior for trading.
> >>
> >> #990. Drag shadow is on the wrong bar. When dragging a study, there
> >> is a thin "shadow" line that shows which bar you have dragged the
> >> handles to. However, when the mouse is released, the study gets
> >> moved
> >> to a different bar than the one indicated by the shadow. This wastes
> >> valuable time with two or three attempts to figure out which wrong
> >> bar
> >> to put the shadow on to get the study to go where you want it. This
> >> is an annoyance.
> >>
> >> And here is one more that I just found today. If I draw trend lines
> >> on a one minute bar snapped to peaks, then switch to a 5 minute view,
> >> the trend lines are shown on the wrong 5 minute bars. And heaven
> >> help
> >> me if I select the line in that view, because it will snap to these
> >> wrong bars.
> >>
> >> There you have my short list. Please speak up if these issues affect
> >> you.
> >>
> >> Best regards,
> >> Dennis
> >>
> >
> >
> >
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