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[amibroker] Re: Study Charting dare I say bugs...



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--- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "reinsley" <reinsley@xxx> wrote:
>
> 
> A missing point in the ABous World is the help as MicroSoft did with
> the MVP. It's one of the most powerful thing to spread a software and
> the knowledge.
> 
> The AB product is so complex to send a simple order for real through a
> basic reversal trading system that nobody as time to help the
> beginners. Master users have not interest to do so. Only complex
> problems are relevant and worst posting, between high level brains.
> 
> TJ should offer title and financial advantages for the most active
> helpers. He will save time and gain money.
> 
> Such user's help forum give many solutions to get round unsolved
> issues for both advanced users and beginners as well.
> 
> No doubt that the AB sofware will move toward a user friendly
> interface in ten years without loosing it's versatility.
> 
> Regards
> 
> 
> --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Dennis Brown <see3d@> wrote:
> >
> > Friends,
> > 
> > AmiBroker is a wonderful program for many things.  In fact I use
only  
> > a fraction of its total capability for my trading style.  I trade
only  
> > single ticker (futures) real time and write whole trading systems
just  
> > in AFL in indicator mode.  This is actually more like the
traditional  
> > chart trading that is offered by many brokers.
> > 
> > I would expect that AB, which supports all these functions as a very  
> > basic operating mode would be at least as good as other charting  
> > programs.
> > 
> > However, even though the fundamental operations are there (and I
think  
> > potentially better), the interface (either design or implementation  
> > bugs --I don't know which) has made it hard for me to use this
product  
> > for drawing even basic lines on the charts while trading.  In
fact, I  
> > need a second chart from my broker's application open to the same  
> > ticker just so I can draw lines where I want them even though AB
would  
> > be superior at this if it were not for the bugs.  This has been
going  
> > on with me for over a year now and it is costing me.
> > 
> > I have other trading friends that I have recommended try AB in the  
> > last week, and I am embarrassed to think what they will say to me
when  
> > they figure out that these basic features don't work properly.  I
have  
> > actually refrained from recommending AB to them for quite a while -- 
> > hoping these things would be fixed first.
> > 
> > I don't know how many other traders are frustrated by the same bugs,  
> > but if you are, please join the conversation so that Tomasz knows
that  
> > this is important to you also and perhaps we can get some higher  
> > priority on getting the study charting to work properly.
> > 
> > Here is a short list of my frustrating bugs --there are others on
the  
> > suggestions and bug lists, but I am only pointing out the ones that  
> > cost profits by either making it very slow to do a simple operation  
> > that makes one lose the trade opportunity, or creates frustration
and  
> > emotion which takes one out of the trading "Zone", or makes the line  
> > drawn correctly to become inaccurate causing one to miss the trigger  
> > point for a trade.  If I have missed any that you feel are costing
you  
> > profits (not the nice to have pretty things) than please add them to  
> > the conversation.
> > 
> > #726.  Handles from a selected study line are not respected.  Often  
> > several lines are anchored or pass through the same pivot points.   
> > Price levels, Trend lines, Forks, Fibs, etc., often use a common
pivot  
> > point.  However, as a trade progresses, new pivots become more  
> > important and the lines need to be adjusted in real time.  It is
easy  
> > to select a study just by clicking on it in a spot where it is
unique,  
> > and the handles will appear along the line.  However, unlike any
other  
> > charting program I have ever used, clicking and dragging on the  
> > visible handle will not usually work properly if any other study  
> > crosses very close to that handle.  The problem is that AB will grab  
> > the earliest drawn study and not the selected one --it will
un-select  
> > the one you selected and select the oldest one and drag it instead.   
> > After playing around for a few valuable seconds trying to grab the  
> > right line, I end up having to move the whole line away from its  
> > current location and reposition all its handles.  Very frustrating
and  
> > takes the time and concentration away from the trading action.
> > 
> > #728.  Horizontal price levels do not stay horizontal.  The
horizontal  
> > lines (price levels) do not snap to a bar with the magnet mode on.   
> > They just are placed at the cursor level.  However, if you click on  
> > the line, it jumps to an angled line that snaps to the bar on the
left  
> > side of the screen.  Its operation is just bizarre and causes errors  
> > in placement of the price level after the fact.  Completely  
> > unacceptable behavior for trading.
> > 
> > #890.  Study handles change when off screen.  Lets say you have the  
> > magnet on and are zoomed out and draw a trend line between two
peaks.   
> > Next you zoom in on the trading action so that only the right hand  
> > handle is visible on the chart.  Now say the prices have advanced
to a  
> > new peak and you need to adjust the right handle to the new peak
(this  
> > is a very common occurrence).  Most of the time, that handle that is  
> > off screen jumps to a new bar position and is no longer on the peak  
> > you selected.  Of course that changes the slope of the trend line to  
> > the wrong one, but you never know it when trading and you end up  
> > placing bad breakout trades because the line is in the wrong place  
> > now.  Completely unacceptable behavior for trading.
> > 
> > #990.  Drag shadow is on the wrong bar.  When dragging a study,
there  
> > is a thin "shadow" line that shows which bar you have dragged the  
> > handles to.  However, when the mouse is released, the study gets
moved  
> > to a different bar than the one indicated by the shadow.  This
wastes  
> > valuable time with two or three attempts to figure out which wrong
bar  
> > to put the shadow on to get the study to go where you want it.  This  
> > is an annoyance.
> > 
> > And here is one more that I just found today.  If I draw trend lines  
> > on a one minute bar snapped to peaks, then switch to a 5 minute
view,  
> > the trend lines are shown on the wrong 5 minute bars.  And heaven
help  
> > me if I select the line in that view, because it will snap to these  
> > wrong bars.
> > 
> > There you have my short list.  Please speak up if these issues
affect  
> > you.
> > 
> > Best regards,
> > Dennis
> >
>



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