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-----Original Message-----
From: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Tomasz Janeczko
Sent: Friday, June 20, 2008 9:39 AM
To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [SPAM] Re: [amibroker] Study Charting dare I say bugs...

Hello,
 
You people don't seem to realise that I am THE ONLY PERSON who works on
AmiBroker code.
The day has only 24 hours and one person has only two hands.
Now if even few people ouf of 8000 users submit "ideas" everyday, no matter
what I do I can not implement
them IMMEDIATELLY.
 
And no, I can not hire 2 more programmers because then I would need to rise
the cost of the program 3 times
and then everyone would scream that it is too expensive and will walk away.
Then it would mean the end of product.
 
So, considering that I am the ONLY DEVELOPER of AmiBroker and wrote
everything from scratch with my own hands, I can say that:
a) I am doing more than anyone in this business to make customers happy
b) I am implementing MORE features/user requests/ideas than anyone else in
this business
c) I am going an extra mile with responding PERSONALLY on the public mailing
list to many of your posts.
 
I can not do MORE than I am doing now. It is physically impossible for
anyone.
 
So, if I tell you that I am going to check things, I will do that, but this
is all subject to TIME and PHYSICAL ABILITY constraints.
 
Pushing the string does not help at all. It makes things worse.

Best regards,
Tomasz Janeczko
amibroker.com

	----- Original Message ----- 
	From: wavemechanic <mailto:timesarrow@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>  
	To: AmiBroker, User <mailto:amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>  
	Sent: Friday, June 20, 2008 2:47 PM
	Subject: Re: [amibroker] Study Charting dare I say bugs...

	Dennis:
	 
	I completely agree with your overall assessment and know that at
least several users also completely or partially agree but may or may not
respond - so you are not alone.  Much has been said through the years on the
Yahoo board/AB website/support mail about bugs, "clunkiness", and
desired/necessary features.  Because of the type of problems that you
mentioned (I am also indicator mode oriented), I use the EOD version of AB
and then only at "half throttle" because my applications and programming
needs are not as extensive as that of a number of other AB users.  Like you,
I use broker supplied and personal software for RT streaming and charting
studies (no "shoe" fits all).  These issues, however, are not restricted to
AB as evidenced by a recent review on another board where the user compared
AB/Metastock/Tradestation/Blocks and ended up (as I understand) with a
Blocks package that includes charting/streaming data/EOD
data/backtesting/useful standard features - so things are evolving.
	 
	Bill

		----- Original Message ----- 
		From: Dennis Brown <mailto:see3d@xxxxxxxxxxx>  
		To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>  
		Sent: Friday, June 20, 2008 12:12 AM
		Subject: [amibroker] Study Charting dare I say bugs...

		Friends,
		
		AmiBroker is a wonderful program for many things.  In fact I
use only  
		a fraction of its total capability for my trading style.  I
trade only  
		single ticker (futures) real time and write whole trading
systems just  
		in AFL in indicator mode.  This is actually more like the
traditional  
		chart trading that is offered by many brokers.
		
		I would expect that AB, which supports all these functions
as a very  
		basic operating mode would be at least as good as other
charting  
		programs.
		
		However, even though the fundamental operations are there
(and I think  
		potentially better), the interface (either design or
implementation  
		bugs --I don't know which) has made it hard for me to use
this product  
		for drawing even basic lines on the charts while trading.
In fact, I  
		need a second chart from my broker's application open to the
same  
		ticker just so I can draw lines where I want them even
though AB would  
		be superior at this if it were not for the bugs.  This has
been going  
		on with me for over a year now and it is costing me.
		
		I have other trading friends that I have recommended try AB
in the  
		last week, and I am embarrassed to think what they will say
to me when  
		they figure out that these basic features don't work
properly.  I have  
		actually refrained from recommending AB to them for quite a
while -- 
		hoping these things would be fixed first.
		
		I don't know how many other traders are frustrated by the
same bugs,  
		but if you are, please join the conversation so that Tomasz
knows that  
		this is important to you also and perhaps we can get some
higher  
		priority on getting the study charting to work properly.
		
		Here is a short list of my frustrating bugs --there are
others on the  
		suggestions and bug lists, but I am only pointing out the
ones that  
		cost profits by either making it very slow to do a simple
operation  
		that makes one lose the trade opportunity, or creates
frustration and  
		emotion which takes one out of the trading "Zone", or makes
the line  
		drawn correctly to become inaccurate causing one to miss the
trigger  
		point for a trade.  If I have missed any that you feel are
costing you  
		profits (not the nice to have pretty things) than please add
them to  
		the conversation.
		
		#726.  Handles from a selected study line are not respected.
Often  
		several lines are anchored or pass through the same pivot
points.   
		Price levels, Trend lines, Forks, Fibs, etc., often use a
common pivot  
		point.  However, as a trade progresses, new pivots become
more  
		important and the lines need to be adjusted in real time.
It is easy  
		to select a study just by clicking on it in a spot where it
is unique,  
		and the handles will appear along the line.  However, unlike
any other  
		charting program I have ever used, clicking and dragging on
the  
		visible handle will not usually work properly if any other
study  
		crosses very close to that handle.  The problem is that AB
will grab  
		the earliest drawn study and not the selected one --it will
un-select  
		the one you selected and select the oldest one and drag it
instead.   
		After playing around for a few valuable seconds trying to
grab the  
		right line, I end up having to move the whole line away from
its  
		current location and reposition all its handles.  Very
frustrating and  
		takes the time and concentration away from the trading
action.
		
		#728.  Horizontal price levels do not stay horizontal.  The
horizontal  
		lines (price levels) do not snap to a bar with the magnet
mode on.   
		They just are placed at the cursor level.  However, if you
click on  
		the line, it jumps to an angled line that snaps to the bar
on the left  
		side of the screen.  Its operation is just bizarre and
causes errors  
		in placement of the price level after the fact.  Completely

		unacceptable behavior for trading.
		
		#890.  Study handles change when off screen.  Lets say you
have the  
		magnet on and are zoomed out and draw a trend line between
two peaks.   
		Next you zoom in on the trading action so that only the
right hand  
		handle is visible on the chart.  Now say the prices have
advanced to a  
		new peak and you need to adjust the right handle to the new
peak (this  
		is a very common occurrence).  Most of the time, that handle
that is  
		off screen jumps to a new bar position and is no longer on
the peak  
		you selected.  Of course that changes the slope of the trend
line to  
		the wrong one, but you never know it when trading and you
end up  
		placing bad breakout trades because the line is in the wrong
place  
		now.  Completely unacceptable behavior for trading.
		
		#990.  Drag shadow is on the wrong bar.  When dragging a
study, there  
		is a thin "shadow" line that shows which bar you have
dragged the  
		handles to.  However, when the mouse is released, the study
gets moved  
		to a different bar than the one indicated by the shadow.
This wastes  
		valuable time with two or three attempts to figure out which
wrong bar  
		to put the shadow on to get the study to go where you want
it.  This  
		is an annoyance.
		
		And here is one more that I just found today.  If I draw
trend lines  
		on a one minute bar snapped to peaks, then switch to a 5
minute view,  
		the trend lines are shown on the wrong 5 minute bars.  And
heaven help  
		me if I select the line in that view, because it will snap
to these  
		wrong bars.
		
		There you have my short list.  Please speak up if these
issues affect  
		you.
		
		Best regards,
		Dennis
		
		
		
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