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From: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of dingo
Sent: Thursday, 5 June 2008 1:13 AM
To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [amibroker] Re: JimSwindle> US STOCKS DATABASE UPDATE

No, as in you expect someone to do this for nothing.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxps.com
> [mailto:amibroker@xxxxxxxxxps.com] On Behalf Of cstrader
> Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 11:47 PM
> To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxps.com
> Subject: Re: [amibroker] Re: JimSwindle> US STOCKS DATABASE UPDATE
>
> Sheesh, as in "buck up and pay?"
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "dingo" <dingo@xxxxxxxxcom>
> To: <amibroker@xxxxxxxxxps.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 11:35 PM
> Subject: RE: [amibroker] Re: JimSwindle> US STOCKS DATABASE UPDATE
>
>
> > Sheeesh...
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxps.com
> >> [mailto:amibroker@xxxxxxxxxps.com] On Behalf Of cstrader
> >> Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 11:32 PM
> >> To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxps.com
> >> Subject: Re: [amibroker] Re: JimSwindle> US STOCKS DATABASE UPDATE
> >>
> >> Well, I'm not sure why anyone needs to pay for stuff that's
> >> available free.
> >> For instance, CSI is a great vendor, but then Yahoo gets the
> >> data from CSI
> >> and publishes it for free. What's really needed is the list
> >> of tickers,
> >> however, and perhaps that can only be done efficiently by
> >> paying for it.
> >>
> >> For me, it's not so bad that there's a ticker that no longer
> >> exists -- I
> >> just check to see what the last download date was -- if it's
> >> in the past
> >> then I assume it's dead.
> >>
> >> However, keeping up with new issues is more difficult. I
> >> don't understand
> >> how to scrape the Yahoo site for a list of, say all of the
> >> current ETFs, or
> >> all of the stocks currently trading on the AMEX. Can anyone
> >> help me with
> >> that?
> >>
> >> I was using Swindle's list, but now that seems to be gone...
> >> so I need to
> >> hunt for a new list.
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >>
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "dingo" <dingo@xxxxxxxxcom>
> >> To: <amibroker@xxxxxxxxxps.com>
> >> Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 10:23 PM
> >> Subject: RE: [amibroker] Re: JimSwindle> US STOCKS DATABASE UPDATE
> >>
> >>
> >> >I haven't investigated any thing other than Yahoo. If there
> >> is a weg site
> >> > that lists the tickers, etc without having a subscription,
> >> etc. then I
> >> > could
> >> > prolly scrape it.
> >> >
> >> > As designed the program scrapes the data and presents it to
> >> you in a grid
> >> > organized by sector/industry or index or etf then you can
> >> select those
> >> > that
> >> > you want to delete and THEN it will create the database.
> >> >
> >> > d
> >> >
> >> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> >> From: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxps.com
> >> >> [mailto:amibroker@xxxxxxxxxps.com] On Behalf Of marketmonk777
> >> >> Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 8:35 PM
> >> >> To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxps.com
> >> >> Subject: [amibroker] Re: JimSwindle> US STOCKS DATABASE UPDATE
> >> >>
> >> >> I would be interested in this program. But all I am
> >> looking for is a
> >> >> program that creates a list of symbols. What would be
> >> nice is for it
> >> >> to "compare" a current download to a previous download
> and have a
> >> >> report generated showing what was added and what is missing.
> >> >>
> >> >> That way I can decide which stocks to add to my own database.
> >> >>
> >> >> The benefit to me is that I don't have to strip out
> >> symbols from the
> >> >> pink sheets or OTC BB.
> >> >>
> >> >> Amiquote does a great job of downloading the data and
> >> don't see a need
> >> >> to replace that functionality.
> >> >>
> >> >> As for the price .. that would depend on the
> functionality that you
> >> >> decide to put into it. Will it work with just Yahoo?
> >> >>
> >> >> Regards,
> >> >> MM
> >> >>
> >> >> --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxps.com, "dingo" <dingo@xxx> wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> > There is not a separate list of added / deleted stocks -
> >> Yahoo just
> >> >> updates
> >> >> > their site on the fly. You would need to build a new list
> >> >> and compare it
> >> >> > with those in the database. There is a trail of Yahoo
> pages that
> >> >> contains
> >> >> > what they consider to be the stocks avail in the US -
> grouped by
> >> >> sector /
> >> >> > industry. These pages have to be scraped to get the
> tickers and
> >> >> names. Then
> >> >> > a problem arises when you go to down load quotes for the
> >> entire list
> >> >> that
> >> >> > you've built by scraping - Yahoo doesn't have quotes for
> >> >> all of them and
> >> >> > some have even had their tickers changed but the pages
> >> haven't been
> >> >> updated
> >> >> > yet. Plus, you also get pink sheet stocks and other
> >> "stuff". The
> >> >> indexes,
> >> >> > etfs, mutual funds, etc are all on their own pages and
> >> >> would have to be
> >> >> > scraped also.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I've done some of this in a program I wrote several years
> >> >> ago - it even
> >> >> > updates the quotes and can be scheduled via the
> >> scheduler. It will
> >> >> retireve
> >> >> > historical, current and fundamental data. What it
> doesn't do at
> >> >> present is
> >> >> > detect those stocks that have no quotes or that have
> >> ceased trading
> >> >> - those
> >> >> > that give an error msg when you try to use Amiquote. It
> >> >> also does NOT
> >> >> > update the database - it just builds them and updates
> >> the quotes. I
> >> >> stopped
> >> >> > working on it because I thought TJ was going to
> address this and
> >> >> decided not
> >> >> > put any more of my time into it.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I can be talked into finishing it but I won't do it
> for free - I
> >> >> done quite
> >> >> > a few free programs for AB and won't do that any more.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Soooo - what's a price that people are willing to pay
> and and how
> >> >> many would
> >> >> > be interested. If theres not that much interest then I
> >> >> won't bother.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > d
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > _____
> >> >> >
> >> >> > From: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxps.com
> >> [mailto:amibroker@xxxxxxxxxps.com]
> >> >> On Behalf
> >> >> > Of cstrader
> >> >> > Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 6:20 PM
> >> >> > To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxps.com
> >> >> > Subject: Re: [amibroker] JimSwindle> US STOCKS DATABASE UPDATE
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Hi Ronald,
> >> >> >
> >> >> > You say:
> >> >> >
> >> >> > ... DOWNLOAD ALL OF THE SYMBOLS THAT "YAHOO" has ADDED in
> >> >> their "YAHOO"
> >> >> > database of STOCK SYMBOLS AND PRICES, VOL ,etc.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > DO YOU KNOW WHERE THAT "ADDED" LIST IS LOCATED?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > If YAHOO discontinues carrying a symbol, then their NEW
> >> >> CURRENT list of
> >> >> > symbols will...NOT...
> >> >> >
> >> >> > DO YOU KNOW WHERE THAT "NEW CURRENT" LIST IS LOCATED?
> >> AND WHAT IS
> >> >> THE "NEW
> >> >> > CURRENT" LIST.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I'M CURIOUS IF IT'S POSSIBLE TO DOWNLOAD THE ENTIRE LIST OF
> >> >> YAHOO STOCKS
> >> >> > SOMEHOW.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Thanks
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> >> > From: Ronald Davis <mailto:xokie7@...>
> >> >> > To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxps.com
> >> >> > Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 5:27 PM
> >> >> > Subject: Re: [amibroker] JimSwindle> US STOCKS DATABASE UPDATE
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Cs, he HAS been doing it for free.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > AB does NOT KNOW which symbols are current.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > That is why there exists a need DOWNLOAD ALL OF THE
> SYMBOLS THAT
> >> >> "YAHOO" has
> >> >> > ADDED in their "YAHOO" database of STOCK SYMBOLS AND
> PRICES, VOL
> >> >> ,etc.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > If YAHOO discontinues carrying a symbol, then their NEW
> >> >> CURRENT list of
> >> >> > symbols will , NOT have it anymore, and it will have
> been purged
> >> >> from your
> >> >> > AB database of SYMBOLS in the AB US STOCKS FOLDER. Ron D
> >> >> >
> >> >> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> >> > From: cstrader <mailto:cstrader232@...>
> >> >> > To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxps.com
> >> >> > Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 4:03 PM
> >> >> > Subject: Re: [amibroker] JimSwindle> US STOCKS DATABASE UPDATE
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Aha, I thought Jim was doing this for free. But in
> any case, how
> >> >> does AB
> >> >> > determine which stocks are current and should be on the
> >> >> list? Yahoo has
> >> >> > almost 40,000 tickers; who determines which ones go
> into the US
> >> >> STOCK SYMBOL
> >> >> > list?
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Thanks
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> >> > From: Ronald <mailto:xokie7@...> Davis
> >> >> > To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxps.com
> >> >> > Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 4:17 PM
> >> >> > Subject: Re: [amibroker] JimSwindle> US STOCKS DATABASE UPDATE
> >> >> >
> >> >> > This origional post was an inquiry asking when Jim Swindle
> >> >> would place a
> >> >> > LATER than >JAN/4/2008 UPDATED LIST OF US STOCK SYMBOLS on
> >> >> his UPDATE
> >> >> > website.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Jim was paid to create this updating UPDATING software, so
> >> >> he is not at
> >> >> > liberty to simply give it away to Amibroker users.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Yes, I would love to help JIM, but I can't think of
> >> >> anything I can do to
> >> >> > assist writing code FOR a NEW version of this
> updating software.
> >> >> > I do recall that Dingo and Jim discussed the possibility
> >> of a Joint
> >> >> effort
> >> >> > once, BUT I DON'T THINK IT WENT ANYWHERE.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > HERE IS MORE INFORMATION>>Jim Swindle's US STOCKS
> >> DATABASE UPDATE
> >> >> SITE is
> >> >> > simply an updated list of the
> >> >> > most recent SYMBOLS in the US STOCKS FOLDER within Amibroker.
> >> >> > When you run a download from this site, it installs the
> >> MORE RECENT
> >> >> list of
> >> >> > the symbols over the OLDER list of symbols.
> >> >> > This process of UPDATING the symbols must be followed by a
> >> >> HISTORICAL
> >> >> > download of all of the TICKER data for as far back as
> you want to
> >> >> have in
> >> >> > your database.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> ==============================================================
> >> >> ==============
> >> >> > ===========
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> >> > From: cstrader <mailto:cstrader232@...>
> >> >> > To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxps.com
> >> >> > Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 1:46 PM
> >> >> > Subject: Re: [amibroker] JimSwindle> US STOCKS DATABASE UPDATE
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Perhaps we should try to help Jim out a bit. What
> >> features would we
> >> >> want to
> >> >> > see in such a stocks database?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Thanks
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> >> > From: Ronald <mailto:xokie7@...> Davis
> >> >> > To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxps.com
> >> >> > Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 9:21 AM
> >> >> > Subject: [amibroker] JimSwindle> US STOCKS DATABASE UPDATE
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Has anyone heard from Jim regarding when a later
> update will be
> >> >> available?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > This link to Jim Swindle's US STOCKS DATABASE site
> shows that it
> >> >> was last
> >> >> > udated on Jan 4, 2008.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I also recall that Jim was planning to create a method
> >> so that each
> >> >> of us
> >> >> > could run a LATEST TICKER symbol update an any time.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > We all are grateful to Jim for having done this. Ron D
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> <http://www.icc-az.com/icc-az/default.html?http%3A//www.icc-az
> >> >> .com/icc-az/>
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > No virus found in this incoming message.
> >> >> > Checked by AVG.
> >> >> > Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 269.24.6/1480 -
> Release Date:
> >> >> 6/3/2008
> >> >> > 7:00 AM
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> ------------------------------------
> >> >>
> >> >> Please note that this group is for discussion between
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> >> >>
> >> >> To get support from AmiBroker please send an e-mail directly to
> >> >> SUPPORT {at} amibroker.com
> >> >>
> >> >> For NEW RELEASE ANNOUNCEMENTS and other news always
> check DEVLOG:
> >> >> http://www.amibroker.com/devlog/
> >> >>
> >> >> For other support material please check also:
> >> >> http://www.amibroker.com/support.html
> >> >> Yahoo! Groups Links
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> No virus found in this incoming message.
> >> >> Checked by AVG.
> >> >> Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 269.24.6/1480 - Release
> >> >> Date: 6/3/2008 7:00 AM
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > ------------------------------------
> >> >
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> >> >
> >> > To get support from AmiBroker please send an e-mail directly to
> >> > SUPPORT {at} amibroker.com
> >> >
> >> > For NEW RELEASE ANNOUNCEMENTS and other news always check DEVLOG:
> >> > http://www.amibroker.com/devlog/
> >> >
> >> > For other support material please check also:
> >> > http://www.amibroker.com/support.html
> >> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >> ------------------------------------
> >>
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> >>
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> >> SUPPORT {at} amibroker.com
> >>
> >> For NEW RELEASE ANNOUNCEMENTS and other news always check DEVLOG:
> >> http://www.amibroker.com/devlog/
> >>
> >> For other support material please check also:
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> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> No virus found in this incoming message.
> >> Checked by AVG.
> >> Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 269.24.6/1480 - Release
> >> Date: 6/3/2008 7:00 AM
> >>
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
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> >
> > To get support from AmiBroker please send an e-mail directly to
> > SUPPORT {at} amibroker.com
> >
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> > http://www.amibroker.com/devlog/
> >
> > For other support material please check also:
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> >
> >
> >
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Please note that this group is for discussion between users only.
>
> To get support from AmiBroker please send an e-mail directly to
> SUPPORT {at} amibroker.com
>
> For NEW RELEASE ANNOUNCEMENTS and other news always check DEVLOG:
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>
> For other support material please check also:
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> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
> No virus found in this incoming message.
> Checked by AVG.
> Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 269.24.6/1482 - Release
> Date: 6/4/2008 7:10 AM
>

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