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Sheesh, as in "buck up and pay?"
----- Original Message -----
From: "dingo" <dingo@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 11:35 PM
Subject: RE: [amibroker] Re: JimSwindle> US STOCKS DATABASE UPDATE
> Sheeesh...
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of cstrader
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 11:32 PM
>> To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: Re: [amibroker] Re: JimSwindle> US STOCKS DATABASE UPDATE
>>
>> Well, I'm not sure why anyone needs to pay for stuff that's
>> available free.
>> For instance, CSI is a great vendor, but then Yahoo gets the
>> data from CSI
>> and publishes it for free. What's really needed is the list
>> of tickers,
>> however, and perhaps that can only be done efficiently by
>> paying for it.
>>
>> For me, it's not so bad that there's a ticker that no longer
>> exists -- I
>> just check to see what the last download date was -- if it's
>> in the past
>> then I assume it's dead.
>>
>> However, keeping up with new issues is more difficult. I
>> don't understand
>> how to scrape the Yahoo site for a list of, say all of the
>> current ETFs, or
>> all of the stocks currently trading on the AMEX. Can anyone
>> help me with
>> that?
>>
>> I was using Swindle's list, but now that seems to be gone...
>> so I need to
>> hunt for a new list.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "dingo" <dingo@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 10:23 PM
>> Subject: RE: [amibroker] Re: JimSwindle> US STOCKS DATABASE UPDATE
>>
>>
>> >I haven't investigated any thing other than Yahoo. If there
>> is a weg site
>> > that lists the tickers, etc without having a subscription,
>> etc. then I
>> > could
>> > prolly scrape it.
>> >
>> > As designed the program scrapes the data and presents it to
>> you in a grid
>> > organized by sector/industry or index or etf then you can
>> select those
>> > that
>> > you want to delete and THEN it will create the database.
>> >
>> > d
>> >
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >> [mailto:amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of marketmonk777
>> >> Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 8:35 PM
>> >> To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >> Subject: [amibroker] Re: JimSwindle> US STOCKS DATABASE UPDATE
>> >>
>> >> I would be interested in this program. But all I am
>> looking for is a
>> >> program that creates a list of symbols. What would be
>> nice is for it
>> >> to "compare" a current download to a previous download and have a
>> >> report generated showing what was added and what is missing.
>> >>
>> >> That way I can decide which stocks to add to my own database.
>> >>
>> >> The benefit to me is that I don't have to strip out
>> symbols from the
>> >> pink sheets or OTC BB.
>> >>
>> >> Amiquote does a great job of downloading the data and
>> don't see a need
>> >> to replace that functionality.
>> >>
>> >> As for the price .. that would depend on the functionality that you
>> >> decide to put into it. Will it work with just Yahoo?
>> >>
>> >> Regards,
>> >> MM
>> >>
>> >> --- In amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "dingo" <dingo@xxx> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > There is not a separate list of added / deleted stocks -
>> Yahoo just
>> >> updates
>> >> > their site on the fly. You would need to build a new list
>> >> and compare it
>> >> > with those in the database. There is a trail of Yahoo pages that
>> >> contains
>> >> > what they consider to be the stocks avail in the US - grouped by
>> >> sector /
>> >> > industry. These pages have to be scraped to get the tickers and
>> >> names. Then
>> >> > a problem arises when you go to down load quotes for the
>> entire list
>> >> that
>> >> > you've built by scraping - Yahoo doesn't have quotes for
>> >> all of them and
>> >> > some have even had their tickers changed but the pages
>> haven't been
>> >> updated
>> >> > yet. Plus, you also get pink sheet stocks and other
>> "stuff". The
>> >> indexes,
>> >> > etfs, mutual funds, etc are all on their own pages and
>> >> would have to be
>> >> > scraped also.
>> >> >
>> >> > I've done some of this in a program I wrote several years
>> >> ago - it even
>> >> > updates the quotes and can be scheduled via the
>> scheduler. It will
>> >> retireve
>> >> > historical, current and fundamental data. What it doesn't do at
>> >> present is
>> >> > detect those stocks that have no quotes or that have
>> ceased trading
>> >> - those
>> >> > that give an error msg when you try to use Amiquote. It
>> >> also does NOT
>> >> > update the database - it just builds them and updates
>> the quotes. I
>> >> stopped
>> >> > working on it because I thought TJ was going to address this and
>> >> decided not
>> >> > put any more of my time into it.
>> >> >
>> >> > I can be talked into finishing it but I won't do it for free - I
>> >> done quite
>> >> > a few free programs for AB and won't do that any more.
>> >> >
>> >> > Soooo - what's a price that people are willing to pay and and how
>> >> many would
>> >> > be interested. If theres not that much interest then I
>> >> won't bother.
>> >> >
>> >> > d
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > _____
>> >> >
>> >> > From: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>> >> On Behalf
>> >> > Of cstrader
>> >> > Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 6:20 PM
>> >> > To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >> > Subject: Re: [amibroker] JimSwindle> US STOCKS DATABASE UPDATE
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Hi Ronald,
>> >> >
>> >> > You say:
>> >> >
>> >> > ... DOWNLOAD ALL OF THE SYMBOLS THAT "YAHOO" has ADDED in
>> >> their "YAHOO"
>> >> > database of STOCK SYMBOLS AND PRICES, VOL ,etc.
>> >> >
>> >> > DO YOU KNOW WHERE THAT "ADDED" LIST IS LOCATED?
>> >> >
>> >> > If YAHOO discontinues carrying a symbol, then their NEW
>> >> CURRENT list of
>> >> > symbols will...NOT...
>> >> >
>> >> > DO YOU KNOW WHERE THAT "NEW CURRENT" LIST IS LOCATED?
>> AND WHAT IS
>> >> THE "NEW
>> >> > CURRENT" LIST.
>> >> >
>> >> > I'M CURIOUS IF IT'S POSSIBLE TO DOWNLOAD THE ENTIRE LIST OF
>> >> YAHOO STOCKS
>> >> > SOMEHOW.
>> >> >
>> >> > Thanks
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > ----- Original Message -----
>> >> > From: Ronald Davis <mailto:xokie7@...>
>> >> > To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >> > Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 5:27 PM
>> >> > Subject: Re: [amibroker] JimSwindle> US STOCKS DATABASE UPDATE
>> >> >
>> >> > Cs, he HAS been doing it for free.
>> >> >
>> >> > AB does NOT KNOW which symbols are current.
>> >> >
>> >> > That is why there exists a need DOWNLOAD ALL OF THE SYMBOLS THAT
>> >> "YAHOO" has
>> >> > ADDED in their "YAHOO" database of STOCK SYMBOLS AND PRICES, VOL
>> >> ,etc.
>> >> >
>> >> > If YAHOO discontinues carrying a symbol, then their NEW
>> >> CURRENT list of
>> >> > symbols will , NOT have it anymore, and it will have been purged
>> >> from your
>> >> > AB database of SYMBOLS in the AB US STOCKS FOLDER. Ron D
>> >> >
>> >> > ----- Original Message -----
>> >> > From: cstrader <mailto:cstrader232@...>
>> >> > To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >> > Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 4:03 PM
>> >> > Subject: Re: [amibroker] JimSwindle> US STOCKS DATABASE UPDATE
>> >> >
>> >> > Aha, I thought Jim was doing this for free. But in any case, how
>> >> does AB
>> >> > determine which stocks are current and should be on the
>> >> list? Yahoo has
>> >> > almost 40,000 tickers; who determines which ones go into the US
>> >> STOCK SYMBOL
>> >> > list?
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Thanks
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > ----- Original Message -----
>> >> > From: Ronald <mailto:xokie7@...> Davis
>> >> > To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >> > Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 4:17 PM
>> >> > Subject: Re: [amibroker] JimSwindle> US STOCKS DATABASE UPDATE
>> >> >
>> >> > This origional post was an inquiry asking when Jim Swindle
>> >> would place a
>> >> > LATER than >JAN/4/2008 UPDATED LIST OF US STOCK SYMBOLS on
>> >> his UPDATE
>> >> > website.
>> >> >
>> >> > Jim was paid to create this updating UPDATING software, so
>> >> he is not at
>> >> > liberty to simply give it away to Amibroker users.
>> >> >
>> >> > Yes, I would love to help JIM, but I can't think of
>> >> anything I can do to
>> >> > assist writing code FOR a NEW version of this updating software.
>> >> > I do recall that Dingo and Jim discussed the possibility
>> of a Joint
>> >> effort
>> >> > once, BUT I DON'T THINK IT WENT ANYWHERE.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > HERE IS MORE INFORMATION>>Jim Swindle's US STOCKS
>> DATABASE UPDATE
>> >> SITE is
>> >> > simply an updated list of the
>> >> > most recent SYMBOLS in the US STOCKS FOLDER within Amibroker.
>> >> > When you run a download from this site, it installs the
>> MORE RECENT
>> >> list of
>> >> > the symbols over the OLDER list of symbols.
>> >> > This process of UPDATING the symbols must be followed by a
>> >> HISTORICAL
>> >> > download of all of the TICKER data for as far back as you want to
>> >> have in
>> >> > your database.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> ==============================================================
>> >> ==============
>> >> > ===========
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > ----- Original Message -----
>> >> > From: cstrader <mailto:cstrader232@...>
>> >> > To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >> > Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 1:46 PM
>> >> > Subject: Re: [amibroker] JimSwindle> US STOCKS DATABASE UPDATE
>> >> >
>> >> > Perhaps we should try to help Jim out a bit. What
>> features would we
>> >> want to
>> >> > see in such a stocks database?
>> >> >
>> >> > Thanks
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > ----- Original Message -----
>> >> > From: Ronald <mailto:xokie7@...> Davis
>> >> > To: amibroker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >> > Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 9:21 AM
>> >> > Subject: [amibroker] JimSwindle> US STOCKS DATABASE UPDATE
>> >> >
>> >> > Has anyone heard from Jim regarding when a later update will be
>> >> available?
>> >> >
>> >> > This link to Jim Swindle's US STOCKS DATABASE site shows that it
>> >> was last
>> >> > udated on Jan 4, 2008.
>> >> >
>> >> > I also recall that Jim was planning to create a method
>> so that each
>> >> of us
>> >> > could run a LATEST TICKER symbol update an any time.
>> >> >
>> >> > We all are grateful to Jim for having done this. Ron D
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> <http://www.icc-az.com/icc-az/default.html?http%3A//www.icc-az
>> >> .com/icc-az/>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > No virus found in this incoming message.
>> >> > Checked by AVG.
>> >> > Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 269.24.6/1480 - Release Date:
>> >> 6/3/2008
>> >> > 7:00 AM
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
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>> >
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>> >
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>> >
>> >
>>
>>
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